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As one of these records is missing this information, and we already know that the records get altered, we get a hint that the dead one now is the same who was dead a year before, since it would otherwise reveal who the dead in this year's 3-3 is. (@Aurora twilight : Will answer as soon as got a bit more time.)
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2012-02-28, 17:33 | Link #204 | ||
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I'm personally quite fond of the Reiko = Another theory for a very simple reason: I think she's the best possible choice. Enough clues have been dropped so that very attentive viewers can have a chance of figuring it out if they wish to, and at the same time, said clues have remained subtle enough to ensure not everyone will. Futhermore, the solution to the mystery in this particular case is unorthodox enough (to the point some people won't even accept the possibility atm, since the show has been leading us to believe Another can only be a student) to surprise and even blow the mind of everybody else. Think about it, everybody: what would be your reaction if Another was revealed to be a student? other than: "...Oh. So that was him." Even Kouichi being the extra wouldn't be surprising at all, as even the show has already toyed with this idea. And let's not even talk about Mei. What would be your reaction if it was Reiko? You might be confused at first, but if the show provides explanations that makes perfect sense, wouldn't it make for an awesome twist? Especially since it wouldn't come out of absolutely nowhere (read above quote).
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Also those books I threw out there is to prove that science fiction and mystery have been linked. Unless i misinterpreted your earlier statement about hypnosis being science fiction, because "Another" could turn out to be science fiction or even fantasy. Yet, since we are all trying to figure out who this "Another" is, it is a mystery to us because well... Its a mystery! Quote:
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2012-02-28, 18:28 | Link #206 | |
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I will again refer to sleeping murder: Seeing things out of his perspective does not necessarily mean he is the one we should consider the detective. kouichi is not my prime suspect though, its Izumi for some reason. About the record: I understood it in the following way: Every year he adds the name of the Another at the bottom of the record as 'deceased: xyz' and all the records, bar this certain have the deceased added later after it had happened. So at the end of the year you would find them: - In the original record with an X next to their name - At the bottom as 'Deceased: <name>' in the year they were the Another-> added by librarian So the name missing there is would be a hint of them being the Another again. Therefore neither the original record would show them as deceased nor the current one. Only after everything is over the old records get reverted back so this time the person in question would appear on: - Original record with an X - Last years record where no deceased is shown as deceased: <name> again - Current record, again as deceased: <name> He aso never stated that he identified the another during the year. I assume he makes somehow sure that he remembers the current class members and compares it to the record later when everything is over. another reason he could do this would be if the current record still lists the another as a student as soon as its over; As the old records would revert back he could compare them afterwards. The record I'm talking about(the one now missing the deceased) was also mentioned as being suspicious. Edit: Watched the episode again Chibaki said his 'as i recall' when talking about how checking records is meaningless - the pictures shown to us also suggest that the name next to the number is simply missing every year (an empty row) afterwards the row gets filled again. So identification at the end of the year is possible.
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2012-02-28, 20:22 | Link #207 | |
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2012-02-28, 22:36 | Link #209 | |
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So his desk got already included in that calculation. He was already in the city and his father already in India before the term started and Kouichi was already living with his grandparents. The manga brought that over better as the introduction Box even states that it is the first day of school. So he already lived there before the term started aand the school did thus already know he would come. - and yes they forgot this important, but minor detail which is why everyone thinks the number of chairs is off because of him Another difference would be that his mother was smothered and not stabbed. You see while both of them are actually just minor details one of them has a huge impact on what people could guess from it. Edit because necessary: - Also someone states in the Manga that the dead one does not know hes dead, my previous comment about missaki having 'culprit knowledge' is therefore disproven (not by the anime though) Again, small detail great impact. While everyone, bar the detective, is allowed to report their own perception, making this information doubtable, it is most likely true. An additional difference that might be important for the outcome: Izumi was not there when the others came for Kouichi, so the one giving him their hand in the hospital was not Izumi, but the male class represantative.
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2012-02-28, 23:01 | Link #210 | |
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There's no evidence to suggest there is just one dead person. The countermeasures working half the time could simply mean at times there was "one" (when it worked) while rest there was "another" (when it failed).
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The differences between the Manga and the anime are not exactly small, so the chance of having two different anothers is pretty high. (One of the differences is the way Izumi treats Kouichi, or how Reiko acts as shes a lot more down because of her sister than in the anime) Quote:
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It still leaves room to doubt that statement though. Yet, doubting it further will not lead anywhere, so I admit deafeat. - Regarding this particular point, that is.
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2012-02-29, 13:55 | Link #216 |
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At this point in the show, I don't think there's been enough hints/evidence to 100% prove any theories people have of who the 'another' is.
I myself think it's Reiko, but it could just be the authors misdirecting us just as they did with Mei at the start of the show. One thing's for sure. The range of the phenomenon isn't yomiyama. It's tied directly to the 'another' which leaves everyone that went on the trip as suspects, with Reiko being the prime suspect. |
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To me that suggest that as early as 1983 Chibiki would get into the habit of writing down "dead person" at the start of the year and fill it in at the end. Of course that is specualion maybe after 1996 he went back and added that footnote to every year hoping to figure it out later. He also says to Kouichi Quote:
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2012-02-29, 18:42 | Link #219 | |
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Also, I must have missed something: What's the argument exactly for the Reiko = Another theory, and why some people are so convinced of it?
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