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- when he uses super-kamui though, we never get to see the eye - yes a pair of MS looks the same. kakashi has one…we have seen the design. since tobi has the other, it should look identical as you mention - as itachi-san mentions, a strong hint is that MS is required for kakashi to use the technique. it may be possible i guess, but unlikely that tobi is doing this without MS power. Why do i think this? we have been told that the mangekyou is required to control the 9 tails…if the original masked man (non-swirly mask) was using obits eye as well, i assume it HAD to have MS powers otherwise he would not have gain control of kyuubi...which would be an even stronger hint that our current tobis eye is in MS mode...........(i admit, this particular point is not as strong as i would like it to be since i have other thoughts about the "other" masked man, but this will have to do for now) this would be fun to see…but every time he absorbs, things swirl into that right eye socket. so i dunno bout that
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But in general, we always see MS turned on some time before the jutsu is actually performed, so why would Madara always turn on then off his MS eye. He would have to do it hundreds of times when phasing through people and teleporting to his dimension. So i looked at Tobi's fight against Konan (around chapter 510), there after the upper part of the mask is blown off and Tobi is inside a sea of exploding tags he still has the normal sharingan while he is continuously phasing to avoid explosions. And his other eye is used up for the izanagi. Quote:
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2012-08-14, 18:58 | Link #107 | |
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2012-08-14, 20:17 | Link #108 | ||
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2012-08-14, 21:21 | Link #110 | |
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Or maybe a reverse could also be possible. Maybe Kakashi had a mission with Rin in which he prioritized saving his friends over the mission or maybe he tried to sacrifice himself to save the said members but then Rin sacrificed herself to save him. Or maybe He actually did save his fellow Ninja in said mission and had to endure the same treatment that his father had to deal with. Or anything/something else along these lines. Tobi/obito having seen that the world doesn't change, he then tried to change the world his own way.
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2012-08-14, 23:53 | Link #111 | |
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If you guys are That adamant on a simple statement I made then I could just retract it. Or change it to, "Outside of using summoning techniques and space-time warping Tobi chooses not to use any other jutsus that often for whatever reason". LOL happy? Last edited by David_The_Gnome; 2012-08-15 at 00:21. Reason: quick edits |
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2012-08-15, 02:29 | Link #114 | |
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2012-08-15, 08:21 | Link #115 |
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Tobi = obito's father. He knew his sharingan was special so he tracked him until he could take it for himself. I think this will be potentially revealed via sasuke and orochimaru.
I think it's interesting that Tobias isn't a ba guy. If he was he would have killed kakashi a long time ago imo. And when you look back hoe many people has tobi actually killed? The Anbu guarding the kyuubi, A bunch of jinchuriki, Konan, and Fu/torune (who tried to kill him first) Idk it's just interesting (or convenient on kishi's part) that tobi would let kakashi keep that sharingan which is now shown to be the key to defeating him.
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2012-08-15, 10:04 | Link #117 | |
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Nagato did said something good before which is "Someday I will break the curse, If there's such a thing as peace I will find it" so Obito can be a bad guy, the only thing that's bothering that TObi is not Obito is because of the TObi vs. Minato fight and KOnan vs. TObi fight In chapter 552... Itachi said something important to Naruto.. its in page 7-8.. he said Spoiler for BIG:
"You start to forget about others, To be Arrogant and to be attached to your Ego,... ONE DAY YOU WILL BECOME JUST LIKE MADARA" so If Naruto can become evil just like Madara, why not obito??
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2012-08-15, 11:51 | Link #119 |
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Have any obito=tobi supporters been able to explain their age gap?
How was obito fighting minato? What if tobi is not only obito's father but madara's son too? It is clear that tobi is from the hidden leaf because: He appears to be an uchiha - not confirmed He had beef with the uchiha - he helped itachi slay the clan (to avenge his father?) He knows about the various ninja of konoha - kakashi in particular (maybe because he was on his potential son's team) but also shikamaru/the Nara clan (when he steals the jar and shikamaru catches him in kagemane) Has a relationship with danzo - unknown but who was on danzo's team if hiruzen trained the sannin? The purpose of his mask is not to hide his identity from the reader (hiding a character we have seen before) but to hide his identity from the other ninja in the story. So I really really don't see it being obito unless time travel justsu is involved, and although Kishi likes dbz, he doesn't need to go that big of an asspull route.
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