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Nikki_4everLover · 2006-05-30, 02:33

I've been researching all I can into it after watching all of G Gundam so that I can get all the facts straight and my belief is that no Gundam truly could destroy it. Now, take into factor I said none could destroy it. I didn't sa it could wipe out any Gundam that came near it. The Gundams people I've talked to who say could pose a huge problem for it are mainly the Turn A Gundam, the Nu Gundam and the Victory 2 Gundam. The last one seems to have an insane amount of firepower and resources, but I still fail to see how any of the Gundams would manage to attack, reduce all of the Devil Gundam to non-existence (the Devil Gundam's mass is always changing, but it has so many extensions of its body hidden underground at most points) while it not only Self-Evolved to cover vulnerability to the attack but also Self-Recovered and finally Self-Multiplied by infecting the opposing Gundam and its pilot. One guy said that DG cells would be useless against Nu Gundam because it operates on some system I can't spell (Psycommu, I think) and I don't realy know about that but it doesn't seem to make sense. If DG cells can infect every piece of technology and organism existing, don't see why that system would make it immune.

The Devil Gundam's main adversary is the Turn A and its MB attack. I was wondering on how a release of nanomachines would go if DG cells and the nanomachines that reduce all technology to sand are intermingled. Perhaps the DG cells could infect the other nanomachines themselves somehow and form a hybrid. It's all a bit weird.

One thing I truly find most impressive and benneficial to the Devil Gundam is that it doesn't need any sort of pilot. It runs itself and its own program while using a human body to power it. That really means that targetting the head or where the body is stored is almost futile because it not only receives extreme amount of protection from every resource the DG has, but it can be firmly sucked away and hidden in its bulk. The fact that this Gundam is its own master always radiated cool to me.

That's my piece but I'm just curious on what Gundams would pose a threat most to it. The ones I listed or ones I don't know of or what. i'm no expert on the series and looking for some info. Thanks, guys. =)

tritoch · 2006-05-30, 02:38

God Gundam.

Nikki_4everLover · 2006-05-30, 05:36

I also feel that the Devil Gundam is unique in its power. Other Gundams who people consider mighty rely on the bazooka and mega bazooka and the super-duper-mega bazooka. The DG has power transcending such simplicity.

Sety · 2006-05-30, 05:59

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The Devil Gundam's main adversary is the Turn A and its MB attack. I was wondering on how a release of nanomachines would go if DG cells and the nanomachines that reduce all technology to sand are intermingled. Perhaps the DG cells could infect the other nanomachines themselves somehow and form a hybrid. It's all a bit weird.

You pretty much answered your own question, also throw in Turn X into the equation since although less mentioned. Turn X IS God/Shining Gundam + Moonlight Butterfly so that alone is already enough to show it can stand up. Since Devil was between by God/Shining respectively and Turn X proved it was no less destructive as nothing in the series including Turn A could survive a direct Shining Finger attack.

DG cells run on the idea of self preservation, and evolution, Moonlight Butterfly nanonmachines are pure unadulterated destruction. They dismantle everything in sight from the atom upwards. My guess what would happen if MB was used vs Devil Gundam, they'd end up cancelling each other out like the final fight between Turn X vs Turn A. The Moonlight Butterfly at full output on both machines ended up cancelling each other out and created a cocoon of nanomachines fusing the two together.

wingdarkness · 2006-05-30, 06:26

A bit-team of Mobile Suits with DOUBLE X at full power could probably destroy the radius of Devil Gundam...360 degree microwave charged blasts on D Gundam's concentrated point (centralized point) could do the trick I think...X and DOUBLE X are capable of vaporizing entire areas of mass quite easily...But they would have to attack it from a distance and with a suprise effect because as you've noted DG is impressive in defending itself head on...I have to believe full throttle'd microwave charged energy (like a Cyclops) concentrated on DG's radius would be enuff to vaporize it's regenerative properties...Given what's seen in Gundam X (In terms of X and DOUBLE X's power) it can easily reach underground with more than sufficient power for overall destruction...

I mean DG's cells can only take so much brute concentrated energy inwhich X certainley supplies...I can't remember at the moment, but it was destroyed right? By Domon and Rain's combine strength if memory serves me...

Sety · 2006-05-30, 06:29

Ah right I forgot about about DX and the G-Bits.....

If somehow DX and the G-Bits could get a full charge then they'd be easily able to wipe out even Colony Devil Gundam since their entire purpose is colony destroying or wiping out large areas in one attack. Its also been proved the Satellite Cannon can be fired repeatedly as when they were dared to fire it again it followed very shortly. Of course they're sitting ducks while they do this mind you.

Demongod86 · 2006-05-30, 09:25

Wing Zero. Ultimate cannon of d00m = GG devil gundam. So long as the blast is big enough, it'll kill the devil gundam just as gohan's kamehameha killed cell.

Sety · 2006-05-30, 10:03

Wing Zero's buster rifle doesn't even come close to the power or range of Twin Satellite Cannon......he could even take down a full sized Libra, theres no way he'll take down Devil Gundam.

Demongod86 · 2006-05-30, 10:08

Devil gundam is what, 70 m tall? The size of a destroy gundam, if that? Or are you talking about devil gundam colony mode? Cuz the way you take that down is kill the central core.

Then again, all it takes to stop devil gundam is to whack its pilot or otherwise relieve it of its central life system ala Domon with Rayne.

Nikki_4everLover · 2006-05-30, 11:07

Well, as I said, that is rather difficult nye impossible. "Easier said than done" suits it more than perfectly. It's core and its core life unit is protected under the most powerful of powerful. The Devil Gundam spawned something like the Grand Master Gundam and it wasn't even its core life unit. It's most evolved creation protected its core unit and even than that was Rain. Rain came out. Until then she was hidden and concealed in a dense layer of the DG's body. To penetrate all its outward defenses, break through its outer layer and actually find the core life unit would take an immense amount of endurance and unmatched durability and speed to either sustain or dodge endless streams of attacks coming at every inch you progress forward.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2006-05-30, 16:09

Not to mention that it was STILL active even after Rain was removed...

rpgman1 · 2006-05-30, 16:17

You should've seen Domon slashed that core Devil Gundam with his two beam sabers, Rain screamed in pain because she is the life core of the Devil Gundam. Makes me wonder if the Devil Gundam is an organic creature, inorganic creature, or a combination of both? It's interesting that Domon has to confess his love and tell the truth to open the Devil Gundam's life core since Rain is the one controlling it.

C.A. · 2006-05-30, 16:20

The Devil Gundam needed a pilot.

After Kyoji was defeated, the DG cells went low key.

If I remember correctly it was said that a female pilot would make Devil Gundam even stronger or something, Rain caused Devil Gundam to become the colony form.

Its either the cells needed a pilot to start or needed a pilot to stay strong. Because the colony form is so strong, removal of Rain didn't seem to affect its power much. Or maybe we only saw it active for a short while after Rain was rescued, who knows, maybe it will 'wither' over the next few days even if no one tried to fight it.

Komataguri · 2006-05-30, 18:23

Jesus Yamato with Dragoons would obliterate the Devil Gundam.

Obi-Wan · 2006-05-30, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Komataguri

Jesus Yamato with Dragoons would obliterate the Devil Gundam.

His name is Kira, not Jesus.

wingdarkness · 2006-05-30, 18:46

Kira, Jesus, Moses...Not much difference when S-F closes it's cockpit...

I also agree with Komataguri the C.E. guys would find away for Kira to kill DG before the Haro tossing commercial break...

Nikki_4everLover · 2006-05-30, 19:49

Well, it does need a pilot but calling them a pilot is rather unfitting. They are a power source to the DeviL Gundam. They really don't pilot it but serve to give it the power it needs. As for it still moving after Rain was removed, that's simple. Her removal effected the Devil Gundam itself but the Colony Devil Gundam was powered by the colony's own generator. It thus could keep fighting for probably a good bit longer bit with no unending power coming forth from the Devil Gundam at its core. That makes sense to me.

Komataguri · 2006-05-30, 20:06

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Originally Posted by wingdarkness

Kira, Jesus, Moses...Not much difference when S-F closes it's cockpit...

I also agree with Komataguri the C.E. guys would find away for Kira to kill DG before the Haro tossing commercial break...

Then after the comercial, we'd have a yaoi bishonen fangirl fest.

rpgman1 · 2006-05-30, 20:37

The colony Devil Gundam is unbelievably powerful on the outside, but inside it's another story.

Shinji103 · 2006-05-31, 03:52

I think Amuro could beat it with Nu Gundam, or heck, maybe even the Gundam, provided it was in space since the Gundam, and I assume the Nu Gundam as well, can't fly in an atmosphere.

Amuro is a specialist in dodging, a pro at it. Those battles against funnels, bits, and most of the time superior enemy numbers weren't for nothing.

Put him in a mobile suit that can move fast, and he could get in there and blast the core/(try to) save the person who is the core.

2006-05-30, 02:33	Link #1
Nikki_4everLover Junior Member Join Date: May 2006	The Devil Gundam I've been researching all I can into it after watching all of G Gundam so that I can get all the facts straight and my belief is that no Gundam truly could destroy it. Now, take into factor I said none could destroy it. I didn't sa it could wipe out any Gundam that came near it. The Gundams people I've talked to who say could pose a huge problem for it are mainly the Turn A Gundam, the Nu Gundam and the Victory 2 Gundam. The last one seems to have an insane amount of firepower and resources, but I still fail to see how any of the Gundams would manage to attack, reduce all of the Devil Gundam to non-existence (the Devil Gundam's mass is always changing, but it has so many extensions of its body hidden underground at most points) while it not only Self-Evolved to cover vulnerability to the attack but also Self-Recovered and finally Self-Multiplied by infecting the opposing Gundam and its pilot. One guy said that DG cells would be useless against Nu Gundam because it operates on some system I can't spell (Psycommu, I think) and I don't realy know about that but it doesn't seem to make sense. If DG cells can infect every piece of technology and organism existing, don't see why that system would make it immune. The Devil Gundam's main adversary is the Turn A and its MB attack. I was wondering on how a release of nanomachines would go if DG cells and the nanomachines that reduce all technology to sand are intermingled. Perhaps the DG cells could infect the other nanomachines themselves somehow and form a hybrid. It's all a bit weird. One thing I truly find most impressive and benneficial to the Devil Gundam is that it doesn't need any sort of pilot. It runs itself and its own program while using a human body to power it. That really means that targetting the head or where the body is stored is almost futile because it not only receives extreme amount of protection from every resource the DG has, but it can be firmly sucked away and hidden in its bulk. The fact that this Gundam is its own master always radiated cool to me. That's my piece but I'm just curious on what Gundams would pose a threat most to it. The ones I listed or ones I don't know of or what. i'm no expert on the series and looking for some info. Thanks, guys. =)

2006-05-30, 06:26	Link #5
wingdarkness Retweet Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA	A bit-team of Mobile Suits with DOUBLE X at full power could probably destroy the radius of Devil Gundam...360 degree microwave charged blasts on D Gundam's concentrated point (centralized point) could do the trick I think...X and DOUBLE X are capable of vaporizing entire areas of mass quite easily...But they would have to attack it from a distance and with a suprise effect because as you've noted DG is impressive in defending itself head on...I have to believe full throttle'd microwave charged energy (like a Cyclops) concentrated on DG's radius would be enuff to vaporize it's regenerative properties...Given what's seen in Gundam X (In terms of X and DOUBLE X's power) it can easily reach underground with more than sufficient power for overall destruction... I mean DG's cells can only take so much brute concentrated energy inwhich X certainley supplies...I can't remember at the moment, but it was destroyed right? By Domon and Rain's combine strength if memory serves me... __________________ Fly since ↔...

2006-05-30, 09:25	Link #7
Demongod86 Gundam Boobs and Boom FTW Join Date: Dec 2005	Wing Zero. Ultimate cannon of d00m = GG devil gundam. So long as the blast is big enough, it'll kill the devil gundam just as gohan's kamehameha killed cell. __________________ Signature stolen by a horde of carnivorous bunnies. It is an unscientifically proven fact that they are attracted to signatures which break the signature rules.

2006-05-30, 10:08	Link #9
Demongod86 Gundam Boobs and Boom FTW Join Date: Dec 2005	Devil gundam is what, 70 m tall? The size of a destroy gundam, if that? Or are you talking about devil gundam colony mode? Cuz the way you take that down is kill the central core. Then again, all it takes to stop devil gundam is to whack its pilot or otherwise relieve it of its central life system ala Domon with Rayne. __________________ Signature stolen by a horde of carnivorous bunnies. It is an unscientifically proven fact that they are attracted to signatures which break the signature rules.

2006-05-30, 16:09	Link #11
RX-78GP04G Gerbera Whoosh! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Albany Age: 38	reply Not to mention that it was STILL active even after Rain was removed... __________________ "I'll show you that a superior mobile suit has its limits when it goes up against a superior pilot!" - Char Aznable, The Red Comet "Come on! I don't feel like losing!" - Johnny Ridden, The Crimson Lightning "Hatred is the root of all war! That's common sense, boy!" - Anavel Gato, The Nightmare of Solomon

2006-05-30, 02:38	Link #2
tritoch 神 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-town	God Gundam.

2006-05-30, 05:36	Link #3
Nikki_4everLover Junior Member Join Date: May 2006	I also feel that the Devil Gundam is unique in its power. Other Gundams who people consider mighty rely on the bazooka and mega bazooka and the super-duper-mega bazooka. The DG has power transcending such simplicity.

2006-05-30, 06:29	Link #6
Sety Lost in your Eyes~~~ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK	Ah right I forgot about about DX and the G-Bits..... If somehow DX and the G-Bits could get a full charge then they'd be easily able to wipe out even Colony Devil Gundam since their entire purpose is colony destroying or wiping out large areas in one attack. Its also been proved the Satellite Cannon can be fired repeatedly as when they were dared to fire it again it followed very shortly. Of course they're sitting ducks while they do this mind you.

2006-05-30, 10:03	Link #8
Sety Lost in your Eyes~~~ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK	Wing Zero's buster rifle doesn't even come close to the power or range of Twin Satellite Cannon......he could even take down a full sized Libra, theres no way he'll take down Devil Gundam.

2006-05-30, 11:07	Link #10
Nikki_4everLover Junior Member Join Date: May 2006	Well, as I said, that is rather difficult nye impossible. "Easier said than done" suits it more than perfectly. It's core and its core life unit is protected under the most powerful of powerful. The Devil Gundam spawned something like the Grand Master Gundam and it wasn't even its core life unit. It's most evolved creation protected its core unit and even than that was Rain. Rain came out. Until then she was hidden and concealed in a dense layer of the DG's body. To penetrate all its outward defenses, break through its outer layer and actually find the core life unit would take an immense amount of endurance and unmatched durability and speed to either sustain or dodge endless streams of attacks coming at every inch you progress forward.

2006-05-30, 16:17	Link #12
rpgman1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Age: 43	You should've seen Domon slashed that core Devil Gundam with his two beam sabers, Rain screamed in pain because she is the life core of the Devil Gundam. Makes me wonder if the Devil Gundam is an organic creature, inorganic creature, or a combination of both? It's interesting that Domon has to confess his love and tell the truth to open the Devil Gundam's life core since Rain is the one controlling it.

2006-05-30, 16:20	Link #13
C.A. Absolute Haruhist! Artist Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 36	The Devil Gundam needed a pilot. After Kyoji was defeated, the DG cells went low key. If I remember correctly it was said that a female pilot would make Devil Gundam even stronger or something, Rain caused Devil Gundam to become the colony form. Its either the cells needed a pilot to start or needed a pilot to stay strong. Because the colony form is so strong, removal of Rain didn't seem to affect its power much. Or maybe we only saw it active for a short while after Rain was rescued, who knows, maybe it will 'wither' over the next few days even if no one tried to fight it. __________________ No longer a NEET so I'll not be online as often. Ignore gender and kick sexuality to the curb! I'm a big mecha fan, who keeps playing the SRW series. When I say 'My god...', god refers to Haruhi-sama. My art album updated 11th May 2013, Science. Deviant Art: http://ca0001.deviantart.com/

2006-05-30, 18:23	Link #14
Komataguri Reverend K-Rist Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: America's Wang. Age: 40	Jesus Yamato with Dragoons would obliterate the Devil Gundam.

2006-05-30, 18:46	Link #16
wingdarkness Retweet Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA	Kira, Jesus, Moses...Not much difference when S-F closes it's cockpit... I also agree with Komataguri the C.E. guys would find away for Kira to kill DG before the Haro tossing commercial break... __________________ Fly since ↔...

2006-05-30, 19:49	Link #17
Nikki_4everLover Junior Member Join Date: May 2006	Well, it does need a pilot but calling them a pilot is rather unfitting. They are a power source to the DeviL Gundam. They really don't pilot it but serve to give it the power it needs. As for it still moving after Rain was removed, that's simple. Her removal effected the Devil Gundam itself but the Colony Devil Gundam was powered by the colony's own generator. It thus could keep fighting for probably a good bit longer bit with no unending power coming forth from the Devil Gundam at its core. That makes sense to me.

2006-05-30, 20:37	Link #19
rpgman1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Age: 43	The colony Devil Gundam is unbelievably powerful on the outside, but inside it's another story.

2006-05-31, 03:52	Link #20
Shinji103 Crazy Devout Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 1st Ra Cailum-class battleship Ra Cailum, port-side officer's bunks	I think Amuro could beat it with Nu Gundam, or heck, maybe even the Gundam, provided it was in space since the Gundam, and I assume the Nu Gundam as well, can't fly in an atmosphere. Amuro is a specialist in dodging, a pro at it. Those battles against funnels, bits, and most of the time superior enemy numbers weren't for nothing. Put him in a mobile suit that can move fast, and he could get in there and blast the core/(try to) save the person who is the core. __________________