(L) Fractale (TV)

[j0x]

Originally Posted by Tatakae

It didn't look bad or awful to me. It's simply the work of another key animator with a distinct way of animating things. I never quite understood why some fans always want a "clean", non "jerky" animation style in their daily anime fix, seriously.

ho so thats what he means by jerky, i like that jerky style of animation to be honest i think those kind of jerky movements are made through computer animation tools/techniques, naruto and naruto shippuuden likes to use that jerky animation style on big battle scenes like sasuke vs naruto, killerbee vs sasuke, pain vs naruto, hidan and kakuzu vs kakashi and shikamaru's gang

i like to see more anime made through that "jerky" animation style, but i dont know if that style is cheap and easy to made

[Tatakae]

Originally Posted by cyth

The animation was never Fractale's strong point. Animators use various techniques to compensate for low frame rate, as it's inherent to most anime productions. Yamamoto Yutaka had made characters look slightly deformed and didn't pay much attention to the quality of line art in order to make the transition between one frame to another as painless as possible on a tight budget. He clearly wants to do more and is stretching that budget as thin as possible. I don't remember Kannagi all that well--I do remember A-1 Pictures fixing parts of animation for the home video release--but Ordet's BLACK★ROCK SHOOTER had pretty much the same problems, at least as far as line art is concerned. What saved that series were highly stylized characters and backgrounds. Fractale is weak with character designs, but the backgrounds and color palette are pretty good. It's too bad too, because Fractale is showing much promise in all other production departments, yet animation quality has always been king.

Well, you have to know that the animation director for episode 4 was Isao Hayashi, the same guy who was responsible for the animation in some episodes of Birdy the Mighty. Whereas episodes 1~3 were mostly Studio Ordet's work, this episode has animators which were affiliated with Birdy, so I'd say it's less a lack of quality control but more about a different approach of how to animate in general.

[wandering-dreamer]

Originally Posted by Tatakae

It didn't look bad or awful to me. It's simply the work of another key animator with a distinct way of animating things. I never quite understood why some fans always want a "clean", non "jerky" animation style in their daily anime fix, seriously.

Ah, I was wondering if another animator had worked on that part since it was so distinctive to me. And that's why it annoyed me, it was a completely different style from the previous shots (which bugs me, I like consistency in any medium). Besides that, I'm allowed to like one style of animation over another right? And I just happen to like the ones that are more fluid and have a higher frame rate (I even like live action movies that have a slightly higher frame rate), if y'all can a more stylized form of animation I think I'm allowed to like a different kind of it.

[Tatakae]

Originally Posted by wandering-dreamer

Ah, I was wondering if another animator had worked on that part since it was so distinctive to me. And that's why it annoyed me, it was a completely different style from the previous shots (which bugs me, I like consistency in any medium). Besides that, I'm allowed to like one style of animation over another right?

Oh, but you are, and you're also in good companion, because most people nowadays want consistency and fluency in animation at all cost, I guess because they don't want to be constantly reminded of looking at a piece of animation instead of being immersed in it's story. I say, more power to you man, but don't call the animation in certain shots bad solely on the fact that they look and feel quite distinctive from the rest . For an example of truly bad animation, look at this short clip of Shakugan no Shana (scroll all the way down)

[Kanon]

Spoiler for episode 5:

Nothing much happened. Nevertheless, that was a rather entertaining episode.

The biggest revelation in this episode was that Clain wears loinclothes. I suppose the revelation that Nessa is a very ancient program (pre-fractale system, thus Nessa is probably very old) ranks high as well, but Clain's taste in underwear definitely took the cake.

What else? Nessa completely forgot her grudge towards Phryné and went back to her old carefree self. It doesn't seem like she had any deep reason to dislike her, she was just jealous. It appears Nessa is more important than Phryné to the temple, she's most likely a vital element of the Fractale system.

[wandering-dreamer]

Spoiler for episode 5:

Like Kanon said, not much really happened in this episode. There was a little bit of background information revealed, Clain mentions that even a 26th century patch is too knew for the software, I wonder if the anime really is set in the year 3000, hence the title of the group "the lost millennium" and it sounded like Phyrne wanted to end some cycle the temple is doing (I could've misinterpreted what she said there, but from the way she said it it sounds like whatever this ceremony is Nessa is a big part of it and that's why she stole her).

And the ED is now in Japanese, think I like how it sounded in Engrish better though.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Spoiler for ep5:

Not the most entertaining episode, but entertaining enough. So glad Nessa and Phryne can be together. They are certain to work some scientific magic, as well as hopefully some interpersonal magic. I wonder whether there are more spy-ders left on board ship.

I'm not going to say it's better than Yeats, but I liked hearing the Japanese adaptation of the ED. And the perfect pronunciation is a relief, lol.

[Jehuty]

I dunno, Kaoru. I liked the perfect pronunciation, but I felt the song was given respect in English.

Hearing it in Japanese did not leave a pleasant taste in my mouth. It's like it was... tainted? Some songs just weren't meant to be sung in other languages. To me, at least.

[BBOvenGuy]

Originally Posted by wandering-dreamer

the ED is now in Japanese, think I like how it sounded in Engrish better though.

It's not the Yeats poem any more, either, or at least not according to the translation I've seen.

[j0x]

just like that Nessa and Phryne are friends now

interesting stuff on this episode is that Nessa holds old data records

[Guardian Enzo]

LOL, Clain wears fundoshi! He really is old-fashioned.

Spoiler for Fundoshi, Doppels & You - An Afterschool Special:

Other than the rather startling Clain-service, the meat of the episode was Clain having wistful slice-of-life with the terrorists. This is where I don't want to leap to judgment, as we just don't know if this is a one-episode feint or a real turn in the story. We had a rather serious moral dilemma shaping up - with a manipulative and deceitful Fractale practicing intellectual tyranny on the one hand, and an opposition group only too willing to kill innocents in pursuit of their goals on the other. Has Fractale made a choice - is this wistful and amusing slice-of-life with the terrorists episode a tacit endorsement of their point-of-view? Or is this merely a setup, Yamakan showing us how easy it is to be lulled into complacency in the face of evil when "freedom" and the everyday pleasures of life are paraded in front of you? I frankly hope it's the latter - because for my money that will make this a much more interesting series.

[creb]

Frankly, I think the series is a mess so far, but we'll see. It hasn't really gone anywhere, which would be fine if it was a longer series, but it's not.

Phryne is almost a poster child for multiple-personality disorder. The pervert meme stopped being funny several episodes ago, and the plot is still mostly non-existent despite being halfway through the series.

I had high hopes for this series, but this far in, I have a hard time seeing it magically turning itself around to delivering something I'll be talking about several years down the road.

[MeoTwister5]

An old college professor of mine used to say that you cannot truly learn and understand a culture and society just by reading a book or interviewing the people. To learn about them, you must live with them, eat with them, bathe with them, cook with them, clean with them, laugh with them, sing with them, cry with them, among so many others. The sudden shift to a peaceful slice-of-life episode might come as rather disjointed considering the violence in the last two episodes, but I think it managed to accurately portray what Lost Millenia is outside of the civilian massacres. The moment of respite would allow Clain time to process what he had just seen and, more importantly, put into perspective just how different the group is compared to others and on first glance. As I had said, you learn about others by being with them, and despite their violent methods the episode allowed us a look into their more mundane and daily lives where, I think, allows us more understanding of the people who make up not just their organization but their family. It shows us who they are and who they are not.

Blog post later.

[antigone]

considering this is Yamakan at the helm, i was not surprised at all that this latest episode was a stinker. here to save anime, he said.

[Haak]

It was a bit jarring to suddenly go from comedy/slice of life when they were holding funerals the previous day but it was a decent episode nontheless. The drama was good. I'm guessing something bad happened to Phryne's sister and the result was Nessa or something like that.

I'm not sure what to make of the loincloth thing, though...

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Haak

I'm not sure what to make of the loincloth thing, though...

Mission successful then i'd say.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

LOL, Clain wears fundoshi! He really is old-fashioned.

Spoiler for Fundoshi, Doppels & You - An Afterschool Special:

Other than the rather startling Clain-service, the meat of the episode was Clain having wistful slice-of-life with the terrorists. This is where I don't want to leap to judgment, as we just don't know if this is a one-episode feint or a real turn in the story. We had a rather serious moral dilemma shaping up - with a manipulative and deceitful Fractale practicing intellectual tyranny on the one hand, and an opposition group only too willing to kill innocents in pursuit of their goals on the other. Has Fractale made a choice - is this wistful and amusing slice-of-life with the terrorists episode a tacit endorsement of their point-of-view? Or is this merely a setup, Yamakan showing us how easy it is to be lulled into complacency in the face of evil when "freedom" and the everyday pleasures of life are paraded in front of you? I frankly hope it's the latter - because for my money that will make this a much more interesting series.

I firmly believe it's the former, because clearly, those guys aren't evil. I'm not saying they're angels either. They are just normal humans fighting for a cause. A good cause, in my opinion. This is what Clain came to realize in this episode. He didn't drop his guard nor was he lulled by what they had to offer, he simply started to look beyond the terrorist "facade".

As for killing innocents, the temple is just as guilty. You can clearly see some of the old hags' beams hitting people from the crowd at the end of episode 3. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're the ones that killed the most innocents, maybe even all of them. They were shooting indiscriminately rather than aiming, unlike Lost Millenium.

[klare]

nothing much happened, except we know the temple is actually watching them every moment

i still do not understand Phryne, her words and actions not making much sense, did she trying to help by getting out of the ship?

[Bikerider]

Hmmm.... I'm beginning to wonder if Nessa is the boot disk that Fractal requires for restarting.

[ars89]

Spoiler for ep 5:

Didn't expect Clain to wear a loincloth. In the beginning i thought that they would keep daring him to jump to prove he has the guts and i would have like to see it, but it would have served no purpose at all. Also looks like Clain found his meaning for freedom, glad they brought that up again.

Glad that Phryne and Nessa are on good terms with each other now. I liked Clain's analogy of Nessa as a newborn. She also got over her grudge. Everyone dancing to get Nessa to come out was great.

Not surprised that the temple is watching them, but now what are they going to do about it. Phryne said that they value Nessa more, well i think it would be accurate since she's made up of old data and is older than Phryne. Though i didn't understand what cycle she was trying to stop. Maybe the "daughters" purpose is what she's referring to.

Nice to see everyone in harmony with each other at the end, but i still think Clain is wary because they are a terrorist organization. If Phryne decides to side with them i think he will as well.