(L) Saki manga

[Flower]

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Miyanaga Mode, eh? Who's willing to bet that it's actually something the sisters got from the mother's side of the family tree, eh?

Wouldn't be surprised ... at all.

[Sumeragi]

You know, one of the wackiest ideas: Saki's mother separate from the father for he lax way he was educating Saki on mahjong. So while Teru would grow into the stern brutal mass murderer, Saki follows her father's more relaxed method of playing.

[Qilin]

As much as I love watching Teru stomp everyone into pulp, I couldn't help but feel bored with this chapter since practically nothing changed since the previous chapter, as in no significant change to the flow of the match. Toki's backstory was okay, but I think I've had enough of that for the past few chapters. Though, I have to admit that that page with Teru standing over her fallen foes was pretty cool.

Anyway, I hope that in the next chapter, someone disrupts Teru's streak (probably Kuro), or else Teru should finish this already. No point in dragging this out any more than it needs to.

On another note, I don't see what Toki is getting worked up about. I mean, if she just sits back and plays defensively, Senriyama would probably end getting second place anyway. Why does she have to risk her life like this?

[Flower]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

You know, one of the wackiest ideas: Saki's mother separate from the father for he lax way he was educating Saki on mahjong. So while Teru would grow into the stern brutal mass murderer, Saki follows her father's more relaxed method of playing.

To be honest I don't know for sure if it was specifically mahjong related (though it could have been), but considering father and mother's presumed personality traits (as reflected in Teru) then I could see all kinda personality clashes.... :\

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by Qilin

On another note, I don't see what Toki is getting worked up about. I mean, if she just sits back and plays defensively, Senriyama would probably end getting second place anyway. Why does she have to risk her life like this?

Because thanks to the devil mirror, she's just as vulnerable as everyone else and if Teru is allowed to keep her streak someone will get down to 0 eventually and there's nothing ensuring it won't be her.

[Key Board]

remember Teru's record of a previous match?

it's show that she changes her target accordingly to make sure that everyone else will have the lowest scores possible

[toriayumi]

Wait~ so don't tell me they haven't finish their game (in main manga) yet! I thought that was the last hand >< so let me get this right, only 1 team gets to go to semi-finals.

[Xacual]

No, top two from this round will move up.

[kona~chan]

Originally Posted by Peanutbutter

As for Achiga hen Ch 11, if the match ends, will we see Teru do this:

Spoiler for no spoiler, just another photoshopped image:

for a sadist like her maybe but for other i don't think so...
saki used to hate mahjong after all.

[night_sentinel]

Wow, synchronized Miyanaga action on both mangas.

Looking at the leaked picture of Saki I think now I have an idea of why Senriyama suspected her being related to Teru.

Spoiler for trigger:

Browsing at 2chan I think this is what happened on the chapter. (There might be some inconsistencies since I'm using Google to translate the moonrunes. )

You know the last chapter left as hanging with Saki winning with rinshan kaihou proving the dead wall safe from Kasumi's power. Kyouko tried to replicate it and managed to be lucky enough to get Rinshan Kaihou to win a hand. Unfortunately as you can see in the raws, that seemed to be the trigger of Saki's demonic mode...

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Miyanaga Mode, eh? Who's willing to bet that it's actually something the sisters got from the mother's side of the family tree, eh?

Ugggh ... this chapters are just fueling my already intense curiosity about the Miyanaga family. Though I think Miyanaga surname sort of fits Saki and Teru since its kanju can be read as Eternal princess or something to that effect right?

So that meant
Saki Miyanaga = Blooming eternal princess
Teru Miyanaga = Shining eternal princess


On the Achiga's side I agree with Qilin that Toki shouldn't risk herself that much considering that she just needs to be in second place. Instead of using her 3 turns she should save mp and just avoid getting hit by ron using her 1 turn ability. Even, Teru can't ron her if her ability is active right?

Then again that's not a very honorable way to play either.

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Spoiler for Game:

Hey, I remember this game.

Playing as Saki is a bit unfair though... she's easily the most broken character in the game. Her ability is so overpowered wherein you'll always get some 3 of a kind in your draw and once that happened you can call kan and win very very easily. For bonus points her hand value is usually very high.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by Requiem-x

Because thanks to the devil mirror, she's just as vulnerable as everyone else and if Teru is allowed to keep her streak someone will get down to 0 eventually and there's nothing ensuring it won't be her.

what if everyone's score turned into zero with Teru eating up all the scores then who will be second?

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

what if everyone's score turned into zero with Teru eating up all the scores then who will be second?

The match continues even though all 3 of them left with 0 points. Unless a case which Teru gets a tsumo, The 2nd placing is then decided by 3 man mahjong.(Thats my hunch.)

Only difference is:
The 3 of them can't riichi.
Once one of them dies by the other except Teru, the match ends.
If ron off by Teru, may go for 1 more round with 3 man mahjong. Something like elimination match after that. Depends on who got negative after that.

Originally Posted by night_sentinel

Wow, synchronized Miyanaga action on both mangas.

Looking at the leaked picture of Saki I think now I have an idea of why Senriyama suspected her being related to Teru.

Spoiler for trigger:

Browsing at 2chan I think this is what happened on the chapter. (There might be some inconsistencies since I'm using Google to translate the moonrunes. )

You know the last chapter left as hanging with Saki winning with rinshan kaihou proving the dead wall safe from Kasumi's power. Kyouko tried to replicate it and managed to be lucky enough to get Rinshan Kaihou to win a hand. Unfortunately as you can see in the raws, that seemed to be the trigger of Saki's demonic mode...

Uh oh... Nice knowing you Kasumi and Kyouko. Though in this case, there is a way to break that flow.

In Teru's case, there is no way... that is, if Kuro does that "thing" quickly... Which will happen a month later. Damn, good things must wait.

[night_sentinel]

Spoiler for trigger:

Oh ignore what I said about Kyouko doing a rinshan kaihou apparently its a troll. Darn... its this times I wish to be able to read japanese without looking at a dictionary every 3 second...

Originally Posted by tsunade666

what if everyone's score turned into zero with Teru eating up all the scores then who will be second?

As scarletknive said it meant the game will still go on until someone goes under zero. In the tournament your still in the game when your score is exactly zero like Kana when Koromo did this to her.

Though that question itself is very interesting... lets say Teru put all competitors at the same score which for this example is zero. If Teru does a tsumo since she is the dealer like 8,000 all or something everyone except Teru will have the same -8,000 score. I wonder then how they will determine second place if such a scenario would occur?

[NeutralZero]

Hmmm.... so copying her signiture mode merits a death penalty huh? or the very least angers her...
Seems like the training camp did more to Saki than anyone else...
The copycat kohai would really really think twice now if she's ever saw this...

[Qilin]

Originally Posted by night_sentinel

Though that question itself is very interesting... lets say Teru put all competitors at the same score which for this example is zero. If Teru does a tsumo since she is the dealer like 8,000 all or something everyone except Teru will have the same -8,000 score. I wonder then how they will determine second place if such a scenario would occur?

Wouldn't rank still be determined by scores?

I mean, even if they all go below zero, their scores still wouldn't be equal, so wouldn't it just make sense to determine the ordering from that?

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by night_sentinel

Spoiler for trigger:

Oh ignore what I said about Kyouko doing a rinshan kaihou apparently its a troll. Darn... its this times I wish to be able to read japanese without looking at a dictionary every 3 second...

As scarletknive said it meant the game will still go on until someone goes under zero. In the tournament your still in the game when your score is exactly zero like Kana when Koromo did this to her.

Though that question itself is very interesting... lets say Teru put all competitors at the same score which for this example is zero. If Teru does a tsumo since she is the dealer like 8,000 all or something everyone except Teru will have the same -8,000 score. I wonder then how they will determine second place if such a scenario would occur?

Most likely a 3-man mahjong. The first person to agari wins.(Thats my hunch.)

Originally Posted by Qilin

Wouldn't rank still be determined by scores?

I mean, even if they all go below zero, their scores still wouldn't be equal, so wouldn't it just make sense to determine the ordering from that?

Remember Qilin, Teru IS the dealer... Also... The other 3 can't riichi.(0 points) If Teru tsumo, the negatives will still be the same for the 3 of them.

Something like this...

Teru 424000(+324000)
The other 3 all -8000(-108000 each)

The all points go to 0 cases should not happen unless Teru does a constant win.(eg. mangan all the way.)

[Qilin]

Originally Posted by Scarletknive

Remember Qilin, Teru IS the dealer... Also... The other 3 can't riichi.(0 points) If Teru tsumo, the negatives will still be the same for the 3 of them.

But their scores aren't equal to begin with. That's only true if you assume that they all have the same score.

Assuming that Teru tsumos indefinitely, their scores would not be equal once they reach the negatives.

EDIT:

Yeesh. It seems I misunderstood the question. Move along...

[night_sentinel]

Originally Posted by Qilin

But their scores aren't equal to begin with. That's only true if you assume that they all have the same score.

Assuming that Teru tsumos indefinitely, their scores would not be equal once they reach the negatives.

Its a hypothetical scenario that has almost zero chance of happening for example Teru managed to get all of her opponents on the same score like zero.

Toki : 0
Kirame : 0
Kuro : 0

If for example Teru did a tsumo like 8,000 all as a dealer everyone will pay the same amount resulting in the final score like this

Teru : 424,000
Toki : -8,000
Kuro : -8,000
Kirame : - 8,000

Since the two top scorer will advance who will be the second school if this ridiculously unlikely scenario come to pass?

Originally Posted by Scarletknive

Most likely a 3-man mahjong. The first person to agari wins.(Thats my hunch.)

So agari huh, Toki, Kuro and Kirame will play a 3 player deathmatch without Teru to determine the second place? Lol that's surprisingly reasonable...

[Qilin]

Originally Posted by night_sentinel

Its a hypothetical scenario that has almost zero chance of happening for example Teru managed to get all of her opponents on the same score like zero.

Toki : 0
Kirame : 0
Kuro : 0

If for example Teru did a tsumo like 8,000 all as a dealer everyone will pay the same amount resulting in the final score like this

Teru : 424,000
Toki : -8,000
Kuro : -8,000
Kirame : - 8,000

Since the two top scorer will advance who will be the second school if this ridiculously unlikely scenario come to pass?

Ah, if that's what you mean (blame my bad reading comprehension), I'm not too sure myself.

Whenever I play in Tenhou, I sometimes see that it has this weird arbitrary mechanism that decides rankings even if two or more players have the exact same score. I don't know how it does it, but perhaps the answer could be related to that?

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by night_sentinel

So agari huh, Toki, Kuro and Kirame will play a 3 player deathmatch without Teru to determine the second place? Lol that's surprisingly reasonable...

Well yeah, you don't want a hanchan match again with 3 man mahjong... It will get boring after a while... (Plus a match that can last for more than an hour... How painful is that to watch...)

Since all 3 has the same points, if one of them agari, then that person will be 2nd. Then settled.