2010-02-01, 19:18 | Link #1522 | |
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From a fighter's perspective, Trunks' mistake was inexcusable. It's common sense that great power is of no use if you can't catch your enemy. Everyone understood this, except for Trunks. You see, hypothetically speaking here, if everyone had to fight each other with equal power levels, Trunks definitely would not be the victor because he doesn't even know the basic principles on what makes someone a great fighter. I've never appreciated the fact that excellent fighters like Master Roshi, Tien, Krillin, and eventually Piccolo, get stepped on in favor of incompetent fighters like Gohan and Trunks taking their places. Yeah, Trunks doesn't mess around at all, but his poor methodical approach to fighting really detracts from that, to me at least.
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2010-02-01, 19:53 | Link #1523 | |
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Same for Goku. You don't need to tell why he did what he did, I'm well aware of it, but it doesn't change the fact that it was a mistake. Goku himself admits he regrets it later on. He wanted to let the kids protect the Earth? Well Earth got freaking blown up because of that. He was overconfident in the power of his own and understimated the enemy. That's a clear mistake. You're just seeing one side of the picture and conveniently excusing your favorites' mistakes when they are to blame just as much or even more than Trunks, since like you said Trunks is inexperienced while the other three are veteran fighters who still make dumb mistakes for even dumber reasons. (I'll agree that Gohan is a moron though. Him refusing to finish off Perfect Cell when he had the chance was probably the most annoying moment in the series for me) |
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Don't get me wrong. I know that Trunks doesn't mess around at all. It's just that I was always bothered by the fact that only he didn't understand something so simple.
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2010-02-01, 21:19 | Link #1525 |
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Piccolo's case isn't nearly as bad as Goku's or Vegeta's, true, but he still made Gohan and Kuririn waste two dragon ball wishes on him, all the while pretty much promising to take care of Freeza, when he had no idea what he was talking about even after being warned by Kaio. Clear case of overconfidence and understimating there as well, and thus I consider it a mistake.
And I can fully understand you being bothered by Trunks' stupid move, what bugs me is you singling him out and having double standards because as we've established he's not the only who screws up. And in my view, a screw up caused by inexperience is a lot more forgivable than one caused by overconfidence and oversized egos. |
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2010-02-02, 01:09 | Link #1527 |
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I guess him being revived was important because of Kami, but regarding the situation on Namek they could've just wished for Goku to get healed instantly and Piccolo's presence would've been uneccessary. And Dende and Vegeta wouldn't have had to die.
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2010-02-02, 02:45 | Link #1529 | |
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1) Buying Goku some time to fully charge up his spirit bomb. 2) Kami and Mr. Popo using earth's dragon balls to restore the lives of those who were killed by Freeza and his minions. This brought Guru back to life, who was crucial to King Kai's plan being feasible. 3) Dende using the last wish with namek's dragon balls to transport everyone except for Goku and Freeza to the planet earth. You cannot deny Piccolo's importance. He played a huge role in the Freeza arc. And who knows how things would have played out if they just wished for Goku's health to be fully restored? No one can say for sure, since it's all speculation.
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2010-02-02, 05:23 | Link #1530 |
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Hirokawa Ryo certainly does deserve a round of applause after that performance. So much raw emotion in his voice during his speech. So so good. Also loved the new piano piece used during King Kai's talk on Vegeta's past.
Well next week it begins. Gonna be interesting to see how much content they fit in before we see the shining moment.
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2010-02-02, 14:28 | Link #1536 |
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It was only a matter of time...
FUNimation has officially licensed DBK. Hopefully, they'll take this chance to give us a more faithful dub.
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2010-02-02, 14:39 | Link #1537 | |
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Considering that Funi has consistently brought out excellent dubs for the past few years, they now have no reason to mess up Dragon Ball Kai.
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2010-02-02, 16:40 | Link #1538 | |
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While there are great moments in this Freeza arc I really hope to see the Android/Cell Saga again. That just had some amazing moments and it was just nice to see Gohan reach the potential that was hinted at so many times.
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2010-02-02, 17:33 | Link #1540 | |
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But whatever, like you said at the end of the day it's all speculation. My point was that Piccolo was overconfident to think he could defeat Freeza and I don't think anyone's going to deny that. Piccolo was damn lucky he ran into Nail on the way, or he would've been utterly defeated. |
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