2008-09-27, 21:27 | Link #12501 | |
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When has Kallen ever beaten a geassed Suzaku? I don't remember because it hasn't happened. Sorry but this point has no evidence. She wins by having the better toy. The only time she fought anything close to that was during the Euphie death and she got pawned in less than 2 seconds. Nothing that can't be overcome well we will see but seeing as they didn't even give her a training montage to overcome it I say it would be a cop out if she does. |
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2008-09-27, 21:30 | Link #12502 | |
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Anyway, there's been a whole lot of promises flying around. I for one am relying on a promise between Lelouch and C.C. And of course ZR is another mystery. |
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2008-09-27, 21:38 | Link #12503 | ||
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Part of this can be attributed to their positions, I suppose. He was told this unit was one of a kind, the best there is, then suddenly he's found a match. More to the point, he has experienced nothing else. Right out of the gate he gets this uber Knightmare and figures he can never lose. Kallen, on the other hand, started out with a crap Glasgow and moved up to her unit. She's used to working against the odds. Quote:
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2008-09-27, 21:39 | Link #12504 | |
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It just feels odd that these three are tossing around the word promise. if they aren't somehow interconnected.
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2008-09-27, 21:45 | Link #12505 | |
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Was the Gurren winning? Suzaku trashed the Gurren prototype and still had enough time to catch to Lelouch who was making a run for it but distracted Suzaku by using a civilian for Suzaku to save. "The second time was that second battle to capture Cornelia, but it was never clear how that one ended." Fight is more equal here. All seemed even until Kallen made a tactical mistake of being pushed towards a position with no solid ground and got immobilized. She would have been dead if Suzaku had time to finish her off and run off and run to Cornelia in time. Thus the only time they appeared to fight on equal ground was the first two battles or atleast the battle for Cornelia which ended in Suzaku victory. Everything else is KMF inequality or interrupted or runzaku to do something else. |
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2008-09-27, 21:49 | Link #12506 | |
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The next fight they had Suzaku had the float system and still the Guren was matching it's mobility. In that first fight Kallen was getting hit after hit. Suzaku could only remove parts. Meanwhile he couldn't get a single hit in. That's winning. Also Kallen wasn't pushed there. It was the forse of blocking the close range cannon blast and the road system compensating and baring on the ground that broke the soil. If that fight had gone on Suzaku would of lost and he didn't have the Live Geass effect yet to save him.
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2008-09-27, 21:54 | Link #12507 | |
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Kallen falling off a cliff and Suzaku going back to Cornelia is hardly his victory. He could have pressed on but left.
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2008-09-27, 21:56 | Link #12508 | |
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2008-09-27, 21:59 | Link #12509 | |
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It proves one is lucky. Suzaku didn't do that on purpose. He was losing, badly. Every attack failed, and a fair portion of his armament was destroyed.
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2008-09-27, 22:12 | Link #12510 |
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Luck? Bullshit. If I may quote from a movie known as a Knight's Tale "Kallen has been weighed, she has been measured, and she has been found wanting." The Gurren got immobilized, not the Lancelot. The end show who is the better.
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2008-09-27, 22:13 | Link #12511 | |
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The fact Lancelot could even hit Guren, but she was breaking all his weapons one at a time shows she had the win till the ground broke.
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2008-09-27, 22:13 | Link #12512 | |
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2008-09-27, 22:14 | Link #12513 |
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Yes, luck. It is luck unless he meant to do it, which he didn't. He was desperate. Every time he attacked, she melted something. It's the equivalent of having a sword fight with someone then claiming you're the better fighter when they have a heart attack after disarming you.
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2008-09-27, 22:15 | Link #12514 | |
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