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2014-12-23, 16:24 | Link #35244 | |||||
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Yea, I would've done the exact same thing. I'm not going to engage in a hand-to-hand fight against someone who's clearly got a size advantage on me and have already attempted to to take my weapon. Quote:
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2014-12-23, 17:39 | Link #35245 | |
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2014-12-23, 18:11 | Link #35246 | |
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Besides that, force doesn't require a gun. Most people are horrible at fighting, and learning take down tactics and proper holds can be useful. What if for some reason, Brown had managed to get the gun at one point and during the altercation, the gun ended up some distance from both of them? How would Wilson have continued to handle the situation? Quote:
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That's a complete breach of ethics. Of course people lie on the stand. But when you know the person is lying and let them admit testimony anyway, you've knowingly tainted the whole process. Quote:
I believe it was John Stewart who once famously called Nancy Grace "an engorged tragedy tick". I'll put Sharpton up there too. He's the racial equivalent of an ambulance chaser. Both of them cherry pick details to rally their troops/viewers into a frenzy of emotion and use them to line their own pockets. Whenever Sharpton starts invoking King I become physically ill. He's a shame to the legacy of a great man. Quote:
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2014-12-23, 18:57 | Link #35248 | ||
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2014-12-23, 19:22 | Link #35249 | ||
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My other statement was meant to establish that currently, many police are not physically fit and are not trained to handle situations that could potentially escalate out of control or in unexpected ways. That's why I brought up the example of the gun being removed from the officers choice of options. There are a myriad of reasons why this is the case, but it is an issue. It's why people fear the militarization of police. They've clearly shown they aren't capable of using military equipment responsibly.
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2014-12-23, 20:11 | Link #35251 | |
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This isn't anything new to blacks. In fact it is the most common story. It is like they have this same script prepared with slight variations everything an unarmed black person dies.
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2014-12-23, 20:28 | Link #35252 |
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Yeah, that'll be the day when the police shoot someone - of any color - and just go on camera to say that guy was harmless, but they shot because fuck him, that's why.
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2014-12-23, 21:07 | Link #35253 | |
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I'm not saying that Officer Wilson didn't believe Mike Brown was dangerous. In fact, Mike Brown was likely prejudged as dangerous because of his description, a big black guy. That made the use of lethal force, not just more likely imho, but the preferred method. You must understand, police in these poor black areas are an occupying army. That might sound weird to you but for the perspective of the people of those communities that is absolutely what they are. The police are made of mainly wealthier suburban whites from surrounding areas who are indoctrinated with the belief that the areas they patrol are filled with vicious and irrational people but the most vicious and irrational of those is the black male, who should best be dealt with it the use of maximum force. The way they interact with the people of these communities is usually only through the conducting of police duties. That can ever more greatly reinforce these prejudices. We must also understand the unequal positions and standards expected of Mike Brown and Officer Wilson in this situation. An unarmed Mike Brown was presumed to be the dangerous one, not the trained officer with the gun. It is deemed impossible or irrelevant that Officer Wilson could have made Mike Brown fear for his life. Mike Brown could have only been trying to defend himself from an overaggressive officer. In fact, in that situation Mike Brown is expected to become submissive while Officer Wilson expected to do the opposite. If Mike Brown had killed Officer Wilson, Mike Brown would have been immediately been sent to jail instead of going to the hospital and been released without any terms as Officer Wilson did. The system protects Officer Wilson because he is an agent of it who in actually killing Mike Brown was fulfilling one its raison d'etre, the modern American police force grew out of organizations constructed to crush slave revolts, while it wouldn't protect Mike Brown because it has always been meant to do the opposite.
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2014-12-23, 21:19 | Link #35254 | |
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In fact, next time you get pulled over by a cop for speeding, just go ahead and shoot the cop in the face, you were, afterall, only defending yourself from an aggressive officer, who dared to pull you over. Quote:
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2014-12-23, 23:33 | Link #35256 |
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We don't know for a fact Brown tried reaching for the gun, right? I remember discussing this incident months ago and that there was eyewitnesses who said that he didn't reach for Wilson's gun and that he didn't charge Wilson before being shot.
I didn't follow the incident closely for long. Who is to be believed, Wilson, or the eyewitnesses, or is it too much he-said she-said?
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2014-12-23, 23:58 | Link #35257 | |
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The eyewitnesses in this case pretty much runs the gamut, from Brown being frigging Hulk bearing down on a shivering Wilson-puppy, to Fuher Wilson cold-bloodedly execute Brown as he lay on the ground begging for his life. |
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I don't know what to believe. Gunpowder residue on his hands starts to paint a picture of a very belligerent Brown, but who knows what happened that day...I read forensic tests (of the bullet wounds) concluded that Brown was shot while facing away from Wilson; not facing towards him (and thus, couldn't have been charging him).
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2014-12-24, 06:08 | Link #35260 | |
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They should sent troops including from other Islamic countries to stop these bastards.
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