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View Poll Results: Spice and Wolf II - Episode 5 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 27 | 31.03% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 33 | 37.93% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 13.79% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 14 | 16.09% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.15% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll |
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2009-08-06, 22:49 | Link #21 | |
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As for this episode, I thought it was very good ( as the others have been ). Quite the ending, left me twitching to see what's going to happen in the next episode. |
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2009-08-06, 23:05 | Link #22 |
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Canada
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Tch, I really enjoyed the ride throughout this episode. Lawrence's personal development here was huge...quite the level up indeed. Then came the last minute or so, what a wonderful way to put a bad taste in my mouth. Oh well, as always can't wait for the next ep!
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2009-08-07, 01:21 | Link #25 |
Math Ninja
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ventura County CA
Age: 59
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Issues... I haz dem
Okay, actually I have one specific issue. Does Amati know exactly who and what Horo really is? Because I don't recall seeing anyone let him in on the big secret. Even if he did somehow manage to win this duel, he'd be in for a big surprise on his wedding night. And yet, that fact hasn't been addressed at all. It's just kind of hanging out there - and it's mocking me.
The other thing bugging me is that I wish we could have seen at least some of what Horo's going through at the moment. She's just gotten the shock of her very long life - news that her home might not be there any more. Her entire world has been turned upside down, and more importantly, she's not in control any more. How is she handling that? Yes, we're getting to see a good story with Lawrence, but I feel like there's a lot more being left by the side of the road. And wouldn't it be fun to have Lawrence take Horo for a visit with Deanna? |
2009-08-07, 01:42 | Link #26 |
Ra-ou
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Inside the mysterious painting
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Ooh nice episode... Truly one of the series worth watching this season. Some series gave ma an endless bad taste in the mouth.
This whole arc reminds me of when im having girl troubles . Overall i believe this arc will give us an insight not only on how stock markets work but also on how relationships work . That position Lawrence is in right now... i can totally relate. poor guy. But in the end like it could be just some misunderstanding which could make or break their relationship. Spoiler for ...:
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2009-08-07, 01:57 | Link #27 | ||
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They can't really show Horo in this little arc, a big part of the suspence comes from us not knowing how the wolf goddess really feels at that point. It's a bit disapointing for some people, but I prefer it that way myself. |
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2009-08-07, 01:59 | Link #28 |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Ugh. For a person who theoretically hasn't done anything wrong, Amarti sure is starting to look more and more like an ass. And Mark's comment about not being able to buy love with money feels like a dig at Amarti, since that's basically what Amarti is trying to do. But I might be overthinking it.
Also, I have the strong suspicion that the person who bought pyrite on credit off of Diane was Amarti himself, to deprive Lawrence of that source of pyrite. (For one thing, Lawrence himself thinks of it, which is why he keeps asking Diane who it is. And the feathers Horo is wearing look very similar to the ones Diane has, which might be another reason Lawrence is shocked.) Of course, Mark is so godly helpful that Lawrence can get it anyway, or so I'm given to understand. |
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2009-08-07, 02:51 | Link #30 | |
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: In the frozen wastes of the Province of Quebec, Canada.
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Wich is quite amusing really, Horo can leave Lawrence anytime she wants. The whole contract deal is entirely Amati's idea of chivalry, it's not enough to love a girl, you must show your affection with a show of skill, dedication and PANACHE. I love that kid, even though I'm going to enjoy immensely seeing him bite the dust. |
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2009-08-07, 03:14 | Link #31 | |
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The feathers worn by Horo are significant, btw, but I guess I'll shut up and let those who haven't read the novel watch till the end. |
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2009-08-07, 03:38 | Link #32 |
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ARG cliffhanger AGAIN I'm gonna die from be on edge so much one of these days I tell you.
A 10, but a very irritating 10. I was hoping for a conclusion more not an other torture your self for one week. Horo and an EVIL EVIL GIRL, Lawrence doesn't know the first thing about him self and Amati is a blind fool I hate, he's also scheming I am pretty sure he knows Lawrence is planing something. I know horo will remain with Lawrence or this story would end, but dang-it this is driving me nuts. LITERALLY!!!!
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2009-08-07, 08:11 | Link #34 |
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So well done. So... well... done.
Lawrence's lines are perfect, you finally see how much Horo means to him. But I think the absolute best part of his whole dialogue through the episode is the words he uses to describe exactly how important she is. He only has his experience and knowledge as a merchant to fall back to, and he likens her to a piece of very important cargo that is about to fall off! While this gets the point across that Horo is the most important thing in his cart, it seems like he is forgetting this piece of cargo isn't just dead weight obeying gravity. She has a will of her own! Now how she decides to use it he has no idea. Loved his question at the end of his meeting with Deanna and loved his mumbling when he woke up (Horo is more than just pretty, she has utility value!). Amati paying Lawrence in the market was great, he was mocking the heck out of him! "I have sooooooooo much money I couldn't think of anything better to do than go get gold coins JUST TO SEE YOUR FACE." I'm quite amazed at how well done these episodes have been, and I just can't wait to see this volume's conclusion in motion. Just thinking about it gets me excited enough to start fidgeting. |
2009-08-07, 09:47 | Link #35 |
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Location: USA
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God, this show just keeps delivering the goods. Each episode has been amazing, albeit the animation was a bit too minimalist for my taste this time around. It was also nice to have Lawrence say out loud his feelings for her honestly and acknowledge how important they are to one another.
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2009-08-07, 09:52 | Link #36 |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Gah the cliffhanger hurts so much!
Amati is really annoying... common sense tells you that Lawrence and Horo end up together again, (Or what, it'll become Spice and Horse?), but it still hurts so much. So tempted to just read the novel... but no. Must. Hold. Out... Sigh... guess i'll go do something to ease this pain. I should just rate this painful... painful for how nerve-wracking it is. |
2009-08-07, 10:36 | Link #37 |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Age: 39
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I understand little of commerce but Lawrence's speech about Horo and pushing the cart stuck in the rain was painfully beautiful.
As for the cliffhanger ending... goddammit Lawrence apparently wasn;t crazy prepared enough for this. He needs to take a level in badass pretty quickly if he's going to win. To those calling Amati impulsive and overly emotional... Yeah he's sort of all of that, byt most of all, he's naive. Mark's speech was excellent. I've always had this idea that while Lawrence does place such a high value on his relationship with Horo, being a travelling merchant he is described by Mark as someone who is unable to look at people beyond mere partners. His speech probably helped put Lawrence's mind into perspective: that he preached of Horo being cargo beyond value and compare, he doesn't truly know what this value of hers mean to him. Mark got it completely right, Lawrence never realized just how much effort he's been putting into protecting her because he's always been looking at her, and his own business associates, as partners in commerce rather than friends. And now that she's gone, as the cliche goes, only now he ralizes what he has and what he's done when she isn't around. "What are you to me?" "What am I to you?", as Horo asked previously. Personally Lawrence should have asked himself that very same question the moment she popped it but, as I've said before, as a travelling merchant he always puts people at a distance. This is is biggest fault. Always had been. I've been noticing this since about nearing the end of season 1 but I always thought that's the way he operated, until this season which really puts the way he terats people into the center stage. But maybe now, he knows. Took one season + 5 for him to realize, but I'm expecting a big change in his perceptions. As for this episode not having enough Horo... well... This is all the Horo I need.
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2009-08-07, 11:27 | Link #40 | |
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A really good episode that further fleshed out Lawrences feelings for Horo. So many wonderfuly done scenes this episode and that one shot of Horo was filled with so many emotions.
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