2008-08-30, 23:25 | Link #1341 | |
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They could be atheists but consider religion positively essential for maintaining society and admirable to human development, for example; or like him they can be rabidly anti-clerical. It doesn't matter either way as long as the definition of atheism, in its simplest dictionary form (as opposed to a philosophy or somesuch). |
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2008-08-30, 23:34 | Link #1342 | |
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Of course, it makes me wonder what degree of an antireligionist he would be, since he specifically singles out Christianity as the reason to his "Atheism", when there are two other Abrahamic religions next to Christianity, and the popular Eastern religions as well...
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2008-08-31, 04:52 | Link #1343 | |
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I am an atheist and an anti-theist, and I am particularly unimpessed with the Abrahamic faiths.
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2008-08-31, 05:32 | Link #1344 |
HI, BILLY MAYS HERE
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Semantics
Atheism does not always equal anti-theism; That's what I'm trying to get at, since people throw around the term "Atheism" loosely as a generic description of such by generally being anti-theistic without even being specific with their outlook on the existence of a deity, understood that if they're anti-theistic, they also disbelieve in a god, or their opinion of the existence of a god is a non-issue in the first place, being generally anti-theistic first and last... The core of an Atheist is to deny the existence of a god; Makkusu simply hates Christianity in general, so the term "Atheist" in that application might or might not even be proper in the first place, if he just hates the concept of Christianity itself... I'm not talking about philosophical points, I'm nit-picking terms, since there is a difference between being an Atheist and being an Antireligionist...
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2008-08-31, 06:25 | Link #1346 | ||
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But yeah, this is all semantics. I think it's important to figure out what kind of definitions we're working with, though, otherwise it'll be hard to have a meaningful discussion. Edit: Also, none of what I'm saying is in defense or relation to anything Makkusu may or may not believe. If he indeed just dislikes Christianity, that would not make him an atheist, but I'm not going to put any words in his mouth.
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2008-08-31, 16:20 | Link #1347 |
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I was born in a Muslim country, yet I'm not a Muslim If the people that claim to be one are.
I can say pretty much my religion is not a part of my life, I sometimes question stuff about religions, then I find myself believing a creator, but not any religions. |
2008-08-31, 16:39 | Link #1348 |
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Agnostic here. In real terms, I'm secular, jury is still out if there is a god or not.
God is code for many different things in different religions. I admire certain tenants of many religions but abhore fundamentalism of any stripe (even secular) |
2008-11-27, 15:15 | Link #1353 | |
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Some people seem to have not understood the subject of this thread. the question is not" are you religious?" but "what is your religion?" Just posting to say that a person doesn't believe in god and blablabla is offtopic, don't you think? I don't see the point of jumping in that thread just to say "i am not religious". |
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2008-11-27, 15:47 | Link #1354 | ||
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2008-11-27, 15:58 | Link #1355 | |
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I fail to see how does it serves the discussion to just come here to point out a blatant "I don't believe in god" (it's an example). But maybe it's just me. |
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2008-11-27, 16:06 | Link #1357 |
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''Born'' catholic ( you don't choose your fate when you are soo young).
Now , I don't follow any Religion. But if I had to pick something, I would say than Spinoza was probably the one closest of the True. Do it make me a bad person??
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2008-11-27, 17:36 | Link #1358 |
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I don't follow any one religion. But I believe in higher intelligence and principles that could be considered godlike, and I think most religions have teachings that are generally good to follow (with a grain of salt of course).
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2008-11-28, 00:31 | Link #1360 |
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Not really. Atheism has no defined official book or set of philosophical beliefs/doctrines that must be followed. If you don't believe in a god, you are an atheist. If you hate religion and you don't believe in god, you are an atheist that hates organized religion. There is no "True" atheist. The only thing that comes close is weak atheism vs strong atheism, which was already mentioned somewhere else.
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