[PC] Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate (Love, Election, and Chocolate)

[knowngni]

After finished watching the anime, went to play the PC version just because I wanted Satsuki's route and well. I dunno if its me, but did they use the same voice actors in the pc version as the anime?

They all seem about same to me except for Chisato but when I looked up the VA's only the PSP and Anime should be using the same ones unless the entire cast was using aliases except for Oboro.

Side note: I AM VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED! We don't get a Hazuki route. Why have the eroge gods forsaken me! Where is the staple older Onee-san Teacher route we usually get!

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by knowngni

After finished watching the anime, went to play the PC version just because I wanted Satsuki's route and well. I dunno if its me, but did they use the same voice actors in the pc version as the anime?

They all seem about same to me except for Chisato but when I looked up the VA's only the PSP and Anime should be using the same ones unless the entire cast was using aliases except for Oboro.

It's just aliases. They're all the same, including Chisato, between the PC game, anime, and PSP game. (Of course, the fact they use aliases means they can pretend that it's "someone who sounds really similar!", and that's somewhat important in terms of maintaining your image in certain circles, even if other circles can see right through it.)

[hyl]

The only named character that i know who is not voiced by the same seiyuu in the game is Kana. For reasons unknown she was voiced by Iguchi Yuka in the anime. Maybe Kana will have a cameo appearance in Ima Sugu Onii-chan ni Imouto da tte Iitai!?

[knowngni]

Good to know. It was bugging me a bit.

Seriously though, I havent even gotten to Satsuki's route yet, ended up doing Isara's after Chisato's. It's really pissing me off that the most annoying thing about this game though is that you cant skip those certain dramatic scenes (*cough*chisato.sobbing*cough*). I don't give a damn about her at all QQ

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by knowngni

Seriously though, I havent even gotten to Satsuki's route yet, ended up doing Isara's after Chisato's. It's really pissing me off that the most annoying thing about this game though is that you cant skip those certain dramatic scenes (*cough*chisato.sobbing*cough*). I don't give a damn about her at all QQ

Now you basically know why she was controversial to game players at the time. You must play her route first, and she's an unstoppable element of every other route. On the one hand you might say that makes the game a bit more realistic than some others where the other heroines just seem to take a convenient exit to backstage, but it can also provoke mixed feelings in the reader too.

[Mystic_Vegetto]

I've had this game for a while now but I just got around to playing it a couple of week ago. I've played the eroge version for PC and I have the PSP Limited Edition which I bought a couple of months ago. Maybe someone can clarify something for me in Non-chan's route of the PSP game?

For Non-chan's route:

Spoiler:

I have a few questions about her story, while I can't read Japanese Text, I can understand about 80% of what's being talked about thanks to the voices. What was it that Tatsumi had on Non-chan that made it possible to blackmail her into making a machine that would help him win the election? Also, who exactly won the election? I know that Oojima becomes the Vice President, but from what I understand, Satsuki wins the election. However, on another site, it says that Oojima became Vice President after making a compromise with Tatsumi..does that mean Tatsumi won instead? I'm just trying to clarify this, because I swore I heard "Shinonome-Kaichou" during the end.

My Thoughts/Review:

Spoiler:

I really enjoyed this Eroge/Galge. I admit that I skipped Chisato's route, but that's manly because after watching the anime over the Summer, I wanted to know more about the other characters in the game. And since the game forces you to play her route first...I skipped through it. I'll do her route eventually however. Maybe on the weekends.

However, what I didn't really like was how the game attempts to make it so that you and Chisato are the one true pair of the entire story. I had heard before playing that a lot of people ended up not liking Chisato, so it made me curious about why people didn't like her. The one character's route I really wanted to know about the most was Isara, mainly because I used to bullied a lot back in School, so I sympathized with her. And after playing that route, I myself also began to dislike Chisato as well for her behavior. Afterwards, I played Michiru and Mifuyu's routes, and saved Satsuki for last on the eroge. Then I played Non-chan's route on my PSP.

Had I played Michiru's route first, I probably would've sympathized more for Chisato, since in her route, she admits that she was simply too late in telling Yuuki how she feels. Same can be said for Mifuyu and Non-chan as well. However, for me, the game kinda kills the sympathy when you play Isara's route, and maybe even a little bit in Satsuki's route as well since in Satsuki's route, she tries to force herself on to you until you tell her to stop. Instead of feeling sorry for her, it just got annoying whenever you got to that "breakup scene" over and over again. And instead of making it seem like you and Chisato are the "OTP", it made it seem more to me that Chisato was entitled to have you instead. But that's just how I see it.

As for the other girls, I have to admit I really enjoyed Isara and Satsuki's routes the most. I think Isara showed just how strong her character really is. She works a part time job in secret to support her family, attends a School that's really far from where she lives. And because she's a Financial Aid student, she has to deal with Bullying. And instead of just crying about it, she simply puts up with it because she knows that she has a job to do and does it. She simply puts the sad stuff behind her, and goes to work. By the end of the route, I thought she came out looking the strongest out of all the girls because of the hard work she did not just for you, but for her family as well.

What I liked about Satsuki's route, was how good the chemistry was between her and Yuuki. I thought the flirting scenes were cute, and the backstory and Love Triangle between Yuuki, her, and Hazuki was done really nice. The "showdown" was a good scene too when it came to deciding who would win Yuuki in that game of Shougi. I was expecting Chisato to go completely insane in this route when it was revealed that you and Satsuki were dating, since she showed that she didn't really like her...at all. But I think Yakumo did a good job in calming the club down when he explained that Satsuki's image would go down due to her having a boyfriend, and Tatsumi took the bigger hit since he brought up their private lives during a debate. The ending was really nice too when she gives you a kiss in front of the entire school after she drops out of the race. Too bad Yuuki doesn't get to try her Shinonome Roll after work, but did get to try her "Cream Puffs".

Michiru's route was ok, but a large part of her backstory wasn't really explained until the end when Yakumo tells you about her past and what happened to Kana. The ending was...well, weird as well. For one thing, why is it that you're watching via Webcam when Michiru finally reunites with Kana who's in a coma at a hospital? Wouldn't it make sense to be by your girlfriend's side? Also...why the heck was there a webcam in Kana's room in the first place? Sounds creepy. And did they ever reveal who the culprit was that did that to Kana in the game? I did find it cute that Michiru clings to you after she had her breakdown during the Courage Test.

Mifuyu...well, I'll be honest. I found her route to be annoying a lot of the time. I think Yuuki made it clear how he feels about her, but what really annoyed me was how she kept trying to push you and Chisato together many times. I can understand why she did it, since she considers Chisato to be her best friend. But I honestly felt that she was neglecting how Yuuki felt, and instead was placing Chisato's feelings on a higher level than yours. It was just annoying to me. The scenes with her were nice, but that part of the story I think kind of hurt it a little bit. But that's just me. By the way, who won the election in this route? Did they ever tel you?

Non-chan's route was probably the weakest in my opinion. I honestly didn't think it was that good compared to the others. The CG's made her look to be a lot more cuter, and older than her sprite as well. But, seeing as how her route was a bonus for the PSP, I can't really complain.

Overall, it was a fun game to play. It's strength lies in the relationship between the characters more than the story, and I think it came out great. Since the club is what made them great friends, it was nice to see them working together in order to save it since it means a lot to them. And even though Yuuki only won the election in 2 of the routes, it was nice to see that their club was still saved in the end and their friendship grew stronger. I thought the art in the game was also absolutely amazing as well. I'd highly recommend this game if you're looking for something to play whether it's on the PC or PSP.

[hyl]

Originally Posted by Mystic_Vegetto

I've had this game for a while now but I just got around to playing it a couple of week ago. I've played the eroge version for PC and I have the PSP Limited Edition which I bought a couple of months ago. Maybe someone can clarify something for me in Non-chan's route of the PSP game?

For Non-chan's route:

Spoiler:

I have a few questions about her story, while I can't read Japanese Text, I can understand about 80% of what's being talked about thanks to the voices. What was it that Tatsumi had on Non-chan that made it possible to blackmail her into making a machine that would help him win the election? Also, who exactly won the election? I know that Oojima becomes the Vice President, but from what I understand, Satsuki wins the election. However, on another site, it says that Oojima became Vice President after making a compromise with Tatsumi..does that mean Tatsumi won instead? I'm just trying to clarify this, because I swore I heard "Shinonome-Kaichou" during the end.

Can't reread the game on my psp, seeing that i deleted the game on my psp (after being disappointed with "Non-chan"s story) and i am not going to open the limited edition box that i have (also i don't care too much about the Satsuki "bonus item" in the box, seeing that i am more an Isara fan ) because i like "mint items"
So i am just answering these questions from what i still remember reading it almost 2 months ago.

Spoiler for spoiler:

Satsuki was definitely the one who ended being the student president. It's kind of odd if Moheji would have won in any route, seeing that he is somewhat an antagonist (although a poor one) in the game
I don't remember Yuuki making any deals with Moheji though.
As for how Moheji could have blackmailed Nozomi , i think that the general department confiscated her machine.

edit: still mint in the box

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

It's just aliases. They're all the same, including Chisato, between the PC game, anime, and PSP game. (Of course, the fact they use aliases means they can pretend that it's "someone who sounds really similar!", and that's somewhat important in terms of maintaining your image in certain circles, even if other circles can see right through it.)

It's sad, really. This is really just another way of using your voice, and yet the JP people give them flak for it? No one gives flak to the people who act out racier scenes on HBO dramas in America.

Since I only just discovered this thread and am still disappointed in how Satsuki or Isara weren't chosen for the anime, I'd like to see summaries of their two ingame routes if at all possible. I'm surprised that Isara wasn't chosen--isn't her voice actress, Mai Kadowaki, the most popular of the bunch? And what factors made Michiru the most popular character on the website popularity polls (other than her loli character archetype)?

Did the creators go for a PSP fandisc instead of a PC fandisc because they were trying to reach a larger audience? If they put out a PC fandisc I'd love to see a Hazuki route. Her seiyuu is no stranger to making (censored) noises, according to her CV.

From what I've been able to glean from the routes, I'd expect that the 18+ elements would figure more into the politics (there's nothing like a little sleaze to motivate people; many US citizens came out with "Impeach Bubba" placards during Monicagate, but you get nary a peep with possible war crimes allegations for later presidencies) of the routes. This becomes a factor in Satsuki's route as has been discussed here, but why not others, like Isara's? I don't think Oojima's political opponents could resist claiming that, in Isara's route, he is only championing the cause of Isara's demographic because she's "paying him in sexual favours."

[hyl]

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

It's sad, really. This is really just another way of using your voice, and yet the JP people give them flak for it? No one gives flak to the people who act out racier scenes on HBO dramas in America.

Well some eroge seiyuu who rarely do anime roles don't care enough to use a pseudonym.
Some that i can think off at this moment are Aoba ringo, Ueda Akane and Tamiyasu Tomoe. Maybe Sakakibara Yui, eventhough i think it's her artist name.

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

Since I only just discovered this thread and am still disappointed in how Satsuki or Isara weren't chosen for the anime, I'd like to see summaries of their two ingame routes if at all possible. I'm surprised that Isara wasn't chosen--isn't her voice actress, Mai Kadowaki, the most popular of the bunch? And what factors made Michiru the most popular character on the website popularity polls (other than her loli character archetype)?

I seriously doubt that animes are adapting a route for the character who has the "most famous" seiyuu (IMO Suzumura Kenichi is the most famous of the original cast)

Michiru is probably the most popular because she is the most "mysterious" of the cast, combined the fact that she is also the silent type and the loli archetype.

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

Did the creators go for a PSP fandisc instead of a PC fandisc because they were trying to reach a larger audience? If they put out a PC fandisc I'd love to see a Hazuki route. Her seiyuu is no stranger to making (censored) noises, according to her CV.

The anime was heavily marketed by dengeki to promote both the anime, psp game and a minor promotion to ImaImo.
As for Hazuki, i am sure that there used to be a character poll specifically made to choose the psp exclusive heroine and Nozomi ended up winning.

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

From what I've been able to glean from the routes, I'd expect that the 18+ elements would figure more into the politics (there's nothing like a little sleaze to motivate people; many US citizens came out with "Impeach Bubba" placards during Monicagate, but you get nary a peep with possible war crimes allegations for later presidencies) of the routes. This becomes a factor in Satsuki's route as has been discussed here, but why not others, like Isara's? I don't think Oojima's political opponents could resist claiming that, in Isara's route, he is only championing the cause of Isara's demographic because she's "paying him in sexual favours."

No idea what you are saying here.

edit: might as well give a compressed summary from what i can still remember

Spoiler for Satsuki:

The first half of her route is very similar to the anime with the exception the shogi battle (Satsuki was still losing but it was at the same moment also a drinking game.... forgot why though) itself and near the end of it.
Yuuki who couldn't stand Satsuki "suffering" from the sake begs Hazuki to stop the match. Hazuki realized that Yuuki was in love with Satsuki eventhough she was serious when it comes to her feelings for Yuuki. She stops the match and tells the 2 to tell the whole story the next day (not during the match itself as in the anime)
Yuuki and Satsuki becomes lovers> first H-scene and from what i can recall correctly the 2nd H-scene was in the next morning...
>next day the revelation of Hazuki's story>
>somewhere between this and the elections there were some dates
>rumour spreads that Yuuki and Satsuki are a couple. This has effect on the elections because of there are credibility issues for both canditates and they could lose out of the voters of the opposite sex (like Satsuki has many male fans)
>Moheji tries to take advantage of this, but it backfires on him in the debate phase because instead of being denied it was confirmed.
>the reputation of all 3 canditates have suffered from this
>Satsuki begins to doubt her motivation for the elections now that she has recouncilled with Hazuki, but Yuuki encourages to continue.
>Some kind of slander against the Shokken was published in the school newspaper
>After finding Hidaka (that crossdressing reporter), the group finds out that the newspaper club was pressed by the finance department without Satsuki knowing.
>After finding out Satsuki decided to take responsibility for this and forfeits
>epilogue. Yuuki has become the student council president and Satsuki has joined the shokken due to her love for western confectionery

And yes i skipped the character development of Sastuki, plus the dates and maybe more. Eventhough some details of her route are also burried in this thread somewhere

As for Isara, i am sure i have posted most parts of her routes in this thread somewhere... and i am feeling now a bit too lazy to summarize it again (eventhough it was my favorite route)

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by hyl

Michiru is probably the most popular because she is the most "mysterious" of the cast, combined the fact that she is also the silent type and the loli archetype.

I guess her catgirl-type hair helped to elevate her over Isara, since loli-characters are also one of Mai Kadowaki's strong suits. I still greatly enjoyed Yuu Asakawa's performance in this series; the voice she used for Satsuki isn't much like many of her other characters. Too bad Satsuki's route wasn't the one adapted.

Originally Posted by hyl

As for Hazuki, i am sure that there used to be a character poll specifically made to choose the psp exclusive heroine and Nozomi ended up winning.

Wow, that's too bad.

Originally Posted by hyl

No idea what you are saying here.

I meant that allegations of sexual impropriety (or similar "vested interests") are almost always certain to sink someone's political career, both in fiction and in real life. You mentioned that this becomes an issue with Satsuki's route; I'm surprised it didn't become an issue in Isara's too. Oojima's opponents could always accuse him of taking up the financial aid students' cause because one of them is sleeping with him.

Originally Posted by hyl

As for Isara, i am sure i have posted most parts of her routes in this thread somewhere... and i am feeling now a bit too lazy to summarize it again (eventhough it was my favorite route)

So far other players (and the anime) have mentioned that she's a financial aid student, gets bullied on occasion (though not to the levels that Ayaka was from Yume Miru Kusuri), and works in a fast food restaurant because the financial aid isn't enough (which is supposedly against the rules). Does Oojima manage to turn her situation around? Is her illegal work discovered? How does he manage to win the election with her around, even without much support?

[Drkz]

I wanted a older sis sub-route....

[Mahou]

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

So far other players (and the anime) have mentioned that she's a financial aid student, gets bullied on occasion (though not to the levels that Ayaka was from Yume Miru Kusuri), and works in a fast food restaurant because the financial aid isn't enough (which is supposedly against the rules). Does Oojima manage to turn her situation around? Is her illegal work discovered? How does he manage to win the election with her around, even without much support?

Spoiler for Isara's route:

As far as I remember, the situation is planned to be improved, but Oojima didn't win the election on her route (not sure). I don't think Isara working part-time was found out, but due to some late-game events she was put in a dificult situation, nontheless.
Isara's route had a huge "bad end approaching"-moment when Oojima focused almost exlusively to the financial-aid-student-problem on the election campaign. This earned him disapproval from the current student president (the main advicer) and Chisato-chan (due to his almost Isara-only focus). In the end they, Oojima and Isara, were left as good as alone as most of the other members left when Oojima didn't refuse straightaway (he wanted time to think about it) an "dark-ish" cooperation with the masked guy in order to damage Satsuki's reputation. -> Oojima crying on Isara's shoulder. They managed to find a way out by arguing that if the bullying/the bad treatment were to increase, the financial-aid students would become less and hence the school's reputation would suffer from it. This idea got the approval of the current student president and afterwards the other food-club members started to come back.
Chisato's jealousy was the strongest here, I think.

Corrections for my bad memory are always welcome

[hyl]

Originally Posted by Mahou

Spoiler for Isara's route:

As far as I remember, the situation is planned to be improved, but Oojima didn't win the election on her route (not sure). I don't think Isara working part-time was found out, but due to some late-game events she was put in a dificult situation, nontheless.
Isara's route had a huge "bad end approaching"-moment when Oojima focused almost exlusively to the financial-aid-student-problem on the election campaign. This earned him disapproval from the current student president (the main advicer) and Chisato-chan (due to his almost Isara-only focus). In the end they, Oojima and Isara, were left as good as alone as most of the other members left when Oojima didn't refuse straightaway (he wanted time to think about it) an "dark-ish" cooperation with the masked guy in order to damage Satsuki's reputation. -> Oojima crying on Isara's shoulder. They managed to find a way out by arguing that if the bullying/the bad treatment were to increase, the financial-aid students would become less and hence the school's reputation would suffer from it. This idea got the approval of the current student president and afterwards the other food-club members started to come back.
Chisato's jealousy was the strongest here, I think.

Corrections for my bad memory are always welcome

Spoiler for Isara:

Minor corrections from i can recall

edit: kind of too bothersome to just correct those things and i will try to make a summary of her route myself

Yuuki decided to help Isara and win the elections to stop Satsuki's plan of abolishing the scholarship of the low income students. Because if Satsuki wins and her plans succeed it will prevent any future low income students (in this case Isara's little brothers) from going to the same school , because the current system will be replaced with a regular scholarship (which is essentially a loan and this makes it impossible for poor people)

Oojima decided to win the elections by wanting to eliminate the bullying on the low income student without even having a concrete plan. Mouri was against this idea as it will make Oojima lose general appeal in favor of merely several hundreds of votes (the low income students) and worse Oojima had no idea how to fullfill those promises.
Also he was already aware of Isara working part time (darn, his information network is good), because many of these students do it in secret. But he turned a blind eye toward it deliberately because that's because it part of the school system. These students already have to work for the school to compensate for their tuition fees, but the school knows that many of these students need to work part time because they are poor but doesn't enforce always this because the school wants these students to drop out if they get low grades.

Chisato who already noticed how Yuuki has been acting towards Isara, told him that him that he has been losing sight what their original goal was. Instead of trying to save the Shokken for the sake of their friendship, she accuses him of only doing the elections for the sake of Isara. So if he decides to continue with this plan, she will leave.
And the team slowly falls apart after Chisato's departure. Mifuyu sides with Chisato, Mouri abandonned him because without Chisato and Mifuyu it's impossible to win, the 2 monkeys were never that fond of those low income students and were also making fun of them near the beginning of the route, Non-chan left after a misunderstanding that Yuuki would listen to Moheji's plan and "Yume" got sick from his experimental Yaoi-bo.
Besides that everything goes wrong with the campaigning due to the lack of people, Oojima's appeal has hit rock bottom because many people don't like his plans.
This leaves him with an hopeless situation in which only Isara and Yuuki are left and he almost decided to give up.
But suddenly Yuuki puzzled something together with with Isara said and all the information that he heard before from the others.

-There is a relation between the increased bullying and the dropout of these students.
-The school had roughly 600 of those low income students and the work they do annually is worth roughly the same as the tuition fee of 10 mln 円 (edit: or was it 1mln 円? Well anyway it was till alot), which will lead to loss of a huge amount of money.
Oojima now has a good reason for wanting to stop the bullying and Satsuki's plans. The reason why the students should care about the bullying is that most of them already felt the budget cuts of the school clubs and these cuts will get more severe if the low income students are gone the next year.

With his new plan, he tries to gather all of his campaign members again and they all rejoined him except Chisato (who is still jealous ) and Mifuyu (who like i said before is always on Chisato's side).
Yuuki makes an enormous good impression on the students with his plan in the debate and he regains the trust again of many people.

Even after his "victory" in his debate Chisato and Mifuyu still don't want to come back. So Yuuki tries to convince Chisato and Mifuyu again, but this time she shows openly her jealousy towards Isara and angrily runs away from Yuuki. But due to her carelessness she didn't notice a vehicle and almost gets run over (people strangely get run over alot in koichoco >_>) but she got saved by Isara (i think). In the proces however Isara got hurt by this (while not extremely severe, she still has something broken)
Because of her injury Isara isn't able to go to school and she is unable to work at the fastfood resaurant.
After this incident Chisato has huge regrets from what she has done and admits to Yuuki that she was jealous the whole time of Isara and soon after this confession she rejoins Yuuki with his campaign.

Despite Yuuki's victory and speech earlier from the debate, the bullying has become more severe because apparently some of the regular students feel threatened by Yuuki's plan and this increased act of bullying is meant as some kind of intimidation.
Oojima realized that there will be always some kind of discrimination towards these low income students as long as their is a distinction between them and the regular students.
Inspired by Isara's fondness of clovers (which i didn't mention because it was in her part of the common route) he found a way to convey this in the final speech symbollicaly.
Something like this:
People are always picking out the 4 leaf clovers because they are different in the clover field which is normally full of 3 leaf clovers. But the 4 leaf clovers should not be treated differently than the 3 leaf clovers because both are essentially the same and he plucks away one petal from the 4 leaf clover, which leaves him with the 2 the same clovers

While inspiring, Oojima did not win the elections but Satsuki has made some considerations in her plans because of this.
The story ends with an epilogue with Isara being together with Yuuki and cooking in his house. She talks again about her dream to cook together with her lover (she made this remark somewhere in the training camp) and that the wish she made with her 4 leaf clover that she carries in her keychain has already been granted

I think there are some inaccuracies and possibly some errors in it, but i haven't read this game for quite some time now.
edit:
I am sure i left out alot (like the date) because this route took like 4-5 hours to read and it's rather impossible to summarize everything. Also i completely skipped the Isara specific events during the common route

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by hyl

I think there are some inaccuracies and possibly some errors in it, but i haven't read this game for quite some time now.

Thank you very much. Do you think you could tell me the ages of the major characters then?

I wonder if the "panties-stealing incident" that Isara suffered could be interpreted as a case of sexual assault in a court of law. And wow, does the school really save that much money by requiring financial aid students to take on janitorial duties? Wouldn't this take away from their study time? Anyone know how much janitors get paid in Japan?

It would have been nice if Mifuyu's route was animated; it's been a while since Kaori Mizuhashi got a starring role in anime. If we went on a Yosuga-no-Sora-style omnibus compilation, we could split at a certain episode where Oojima goes on to "win" Chisato or Mifuyu, right?

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

Thank you very much. Do you think you could tell me the ages of the major characters then?

Why would you ask? All Characters In This Game Are Eighteen Years Of Age Or Older.

They may be a bit younger in the PSP game...

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

And wow, does the school really save that much money by requiring financial aid students to take on janitorial duties? Wouldn't this take away from their study time? Anyone know how much janitors get paid in Japan?

Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly here, but I didn't think the only jobs they did were janitorial jobs around the school (that was just an extra job that Isara took on).

In the end, the "financial aid" program was mostly a sort of "job placement" program that gave free tuition in exchange for compulsory (child?) labour.

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

It would have been nice if Mifuyu's route was animated; it's been a while since Kaori Mizuhashi got a starring role in anime. If we went on a Yosuga-no-Sora-style omnibus compilation, we could split at a certain episode where Oojima goes on to "win" Chisato or Mifuyu, right?

I think that anything is possible, but KoiChoco really isn't a story that's well suited to an omnibus compilation given that all stories take place with the same election campaign as the backdrop. Most of the omnibus anime you see branch out in wildly different directions so that each arc can explore different things (and they won't all be variations of the same story), but there's some unavoidable overlap here. So I think the better option would have been to tell one story completely, and then have a bunch of alternate endings that explored specific variations while quickly brushing over the common parts. That's actually sort of the way the game is structured too, if you want to look at it that way.

[hyl]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Why would you ask? All Characters In This Game Are Eighteen Years Of Age Or Older.

They may be a bit younger in the PSP game...

I see what you did there

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

Thank you very much. Do you think you could tell me the ages of the major characters then?

While never directly mentioned it is usual age of 2nd (add one extra year for Mifuyu) and first years of high schoolers in japan.

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly here, but I didn't think the only jobs they did were janitorial jobs around the school (that was just an extra job that Isara took on).

In the end, the "financial aid" program was mostly a sort of "job placement" program that gave free tuition in exchange for compulsory (child?) labour.

Correct, because the first encounter with Isara was the moment was she was almost too late for the bus that brought all of these students to work somewhere (and losing her keychain and keys).
I am sure it was never mentioned in the game what kind of work they are supposed to be doing. In fact Isara's main schooljob during koichoco was helping with the elections of an assigned candiate (in this case Oojima), so we don't get to see any of it.

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

I wonder if the "panties-stealing incident" that Isara suffered could be interpreted as a case of sexual assault in a court of law.

Let's start with that that scene was anime original (although a good one to show how bad the bullying is, unlike in the game the worst you had were the bullies saying that Isara stinked, the 2 monkeys saying bad things when they thought Isara was not around in the Kimodameshi and the offscreen intimidation of some students that made them hesistate to support Oojima in the last part of the story)
This would probably only be considered to be bullying in japan (common problem in japan and many other countries in the world) and not something severe as you made out to be for the law.
Plus in the game, these students had to put up with the bullying or change schools.

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Why would you ask? All Characters In This Game Are Eighteen Years Of Age Or Older.

Yep, the "Japanese age of consent laws" problem again.

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

In the end, the "financial aid" program was mostly a sort of "job placement" program that gave free tuition in exchange for compulsory (child?) labour.

I have to wonder how low the age of legal labour is in Japan, then. The CGs, however, show Isara's mother and brother--is her mother a single mother or just disabled, which is why she needs to take a job at a fast food place? Do they mention what became of Isara's father?

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Most of the omnibus anime you see branch out in wildly different directions so that each arc can explore different things (and they won't all be variations of the same story), but there's some unavoidable overlap here.

I think Yosuga no Sora did something like that, splitting the episodes into two main arcs (just as the game did), with an Akira/Kazuha arc split, and a Nao/Sora split. I would think that Chisato and Mifuyu could have gotten their own splitting point after a "common route" set of episodes.

Originally Posted by hyl

While never directly mentioned it is usual age of 2nd (add one extra year for Mifuyu) and first years of high schoolers in japan.

That makes them 15-16 years old, then. Typical.

Originally Posted by hyl

I am sure it was never mentioned in the game what kind of work they are supposed to be doing. In fact Isara's main schooljob during koichoco was helping with the elections of an assigned candiate (in this case Oojima), so we don't get to see any of it.

Okay, so it's an anime invention then. Still, what could the financial aid students possibly be doing that saves the school a million yen a year?!

Originally Posted by hyl

This would probably only be considered to be bullying in japan (common problem in japan and many other countries in the world) and not something severe as you made out to be for the law.

There have been a bunch of bullying-precipitated student suicides lately in Japan. I hope this becomes the impetus for better anti-bullying initiatives in Japan. There's no need for more students in Japan to end up like Ayaka from Yume Miru Kusuri.

[Tigarekkusu]

hmm there is chisato wedding cg right? can anyone summary that scene for me please?

[hyl]

Like the anime it was just a mock wedding to make Oojima remember/realize his feelings for Chisato

edit: i even made a video of that scene a year ago

[Tigarekkusu]

Originally Posted by hyl

Like the anime it was just a mock wedding to make Oojima remember/realize his feelings for Chisato

edit: i even made a video of that scene a year ago

eeh so the ending is just a mock marriage 0.0?? btw thank you very much it,s rare people summary ending these days >.<