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LostSome · 2012-02-01, 14:39

I guess they will be extras too.

Lol ! Cypha thinks that Thoma is not ready ?
If heads start to go boom again, I`m thinking so too.

Justin_Brett · 2012-02-01, 14:44

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Looks like the 'Hucks will befriend the good guys and fight the 'real' bad guy' scenario is coming more and more into shape.

I'm gonna laugh if these new guys are written to be completely evil just to further emphasis that.

Akiyoshi · 2012-02-01, 15:17

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Originally Posted by Keroko

Unison devices are also created from a biological compound, though. A linker core is essential in their creation.

TSAB hasn't dominated unison technology yet. It's something that was made in ancient belka and the TSAB didn't have a hand in the creation of any of the Unison Devices that have appeared onscreen(Agito and Reinforce Eins are from Ancient Belka while Reinforce Zwei was basically "bron" from Hayate and Eins). they seem to have learned some stuff from them tough as we can see in ViVid with Hybrid Devices yet those are far from the coplexity and level of sentinence of Unison Devices.

The TSAB also didn't have hands in the fabrication of the Raptor units and the technology seems to be rband new which gives more chance to Caledfwilch Technoques to play innocent until backstab ensues xD.

About Force 21 look like things indeed started to move quite fast.

I see that mass production of the War Hammers has also started(Erio is using one during the sparring with the Raptors, as if the poor boy needed a weapon even more unsuited to him xDU). Lily seems to get along well with the raptors who indeed seems to sport some kind of sentinence(OMG!). they seems to be a good match and apparently Cypha was talking about the Fake Huckebeins, apparently she wants Tohma to stay away in a "we will take care of them" fashion xD. And yep, apparently something big is about to happen. Waiting for Ch. 22 xD

P.S.- Yeah, i'm making an effort to keep my cool xDU

Keroko · 2012-02-01, 15:49

Zwei wasn't born from Hayate and Eins. It was a conscious choice made by Hayate, and one she carefully considered, and hadn't even stopped considering by the time of A's sound stage 3, where she says she's still considering what she'd look like (useful tidbit for fanfiction: Creators can design the looks of their unison device). She even called in help from Yuuno and Mari to make it, so the TSAB definitely knows how to make unison devices.

If you're referring to the communication between Eins and Zwei in the StrikerS sound stages, that was because Eins left a message in Hayate's linker core so that if there ever was a new unison device, she could pass on her last words.

Akiyoshi · 2012-02-01, 16:03

Didn't mean they have mastered it either xDU Supplemental material states that Unison Device are very difficult to make in modern times and the fact that there also very few mages able to sync with one makes those very unpractical.

Still, probably Vandin Crop. has mastered the process as they're creating Strosek Reactors who are Unison Devices in all but name xDU

Keroko · 2012-02-01, 16:12

And also tend to reduce all but a few to clumps of meat, so they have ways to go themselves as well.

LostSome · 2012-02-01, 16:20

Rather than making the unison device compatible with the user, the Eclipse goes the other way around.

The whole Eclipse sounds like someone took the theory of viral evolution to the extreme...

Akiyoshi · 2012-02-01, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Keroko

And also tend to reduce all but a few to clumps of meat, so they have ways to go themselves as well.

Point xD

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Originally Posted by LostSome

Rather than making the unison device compatible with the user, the Eclipse goes the other way around.

The whole Eclipse sounds like someone took the theory of viral evolution to the extreme...

Yup, Eclipse doesen't fit to you ...YOU fit to the Eclipse, or die in the process xD

Keroko · 2012-02-01, 16:28

Natural selection taken to the extreme.

LostSome · 2012-02-01, 16:43

Hardly natural.
But the theory of using DNA-altering viruses to create supersoldiers is nothing new.
Reality is scary sometimes...

Akiyoshi · 2012-02-01, 16:51

Well, the Fake Huckebein's weapons have painfully obvious serial numbers xD Dego's one is called "VC9" ...VC ...V.C.

...as in Vandin Corporation xD?

Keroko · 2012-02-01, 17:08

.... Yeeeeaaaah, not too subtle mister Vandin.

Justin_Brett · 2012-02-01, 17:33

I don't think these new guys are affiliated with Vandin, though, Aki: why call themselves the whatever family if that were the case?

And what, seriously? It's a good thing that's not actually on the Divider, or you'd be completely boned if your sniper missed.

Akiyoshi · 2012-02-01, 17:48

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Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

I don't think these new guys are affiliated with Vandin, though, Aki: why call themselves the whatever family if that were the case?

When you hire guns to make your dirty work you don't make them go announcing their affiliation with you xDU.

...which makes the serialization of their weaponry a bit retarded, unless it turns out i'ts part of some Xanatos Gambit planned by Mr. Vandin.

Arcc · 2012-02-01, 17:51

Or maybe Mr. Vandin is another Scaglietti, leaving his fancy "come and get me" trail of breadcrumbs. . . but in this case it's directed at the Hucks, rather than Fate and Co.

Kuze · 2012-02-01, 17:58

Not to be exacting about it, but serial numbers are only worthwhile as evidence when you have the trail that leads you right to the place of manufacture - which seems to still be out of Fate's hands at the moment when we look at Mr Vandin play acting with his gunblade. If we're gonna call it straight, then already there would be fingers pointing in the direction of Vandin ever since Touma accidentally the whole facility in chapter 1.

And really, after the mess on Liberty where the TSAB already knows that Vandin is experimenting on the virus, then it's not like there's no shortage of suspicion to cast upon the company. The question again, becomes finding the proof.

And I didn't think that Veyron would be religiously intolerant in /that/ way.

Akiyoshi · 2012-02-01, 17:59

If Curren is to be believed, it seems that the Hucks used to work with Vandin Corp. but were betrayed and now Curren is on her way to make them pay.

I really hope they don't pull the "the Hucks were good all along" card. The foreshadowing of a full scale war between two evil factions with the heroes trapped in the crossfire sounds really, really exciting xD! If anything i want the Hucks and Section Six forced to cooperate in an "enemy mine" situation xD.

Justin_Brett · 2012-02-01, 17:59

Well, unaffiliated in that they weren't produced by Vandin, just hanging around.

Wait, his name is Hades? Are you kidding me?

itanshi1 · 2012-02-01, 18:36

Thought we had a Hades, Heidi E S Ingvalt

Justin_Brett · 2012-02-01, 18:49

Spoiler:

Apparently each infected has some kind of specific super-power. I wish they'd get around to fully explaining this stuff instead of just having characters who know it all discuss it.

2012-02-01, 14:39	Link #5501
LostSome Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada	I guess they will be extras too. Lol ! Cypha thinks that Thoma is not ready ? If heads start to go boom again, I`m thinking so too. __________________ Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins. You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ? -Old geezer.

2012-02-01, 16:03	Link #5505
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	Didn't mean they have mastered it either xDU Supplemental material states that Unison Device are very difficult to make in modern times and the fact that there also very few mages able to sync with one makes those very unpractical. Still, probably Vandin Crop. has mastered the process as they're creating Strosek Reactors who are Unison Devices in all but name xDU __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-02-01, 16:20	Link #5507
LostSome Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada	Rather than making the unison device compatible with the user, the Eclipse goes the other way around. The whole Eclipse sounds like someone took the theory of viral evolution to the extreme... __________________ Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins. You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ? -Old geezer.

2012-02-01, 16:43	Link #5510
LostSome Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada	Hardly natural. But the theory of using DNA-altering viruses to create supersoldiers is nothing new. Reality is scary sometimes... __________________ Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins. You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ? -Old geezer.

2012-02-01, 16:51	Link #5511
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	Well, the Fake Huckebein's weapons have painfully obvious serial numbers xD Dego's one is called "VC9" ...VC ...V.C. ...as in Vandin Corporation xD? __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-02-01, 15:49	Link #5504
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Zwei wasn't born from Hayate and Eins. It was a conscious choice made by Hayate, and one she carefully considered, and hadn't even stopped considering by the time of A's sound stage 3, where she says she's still considering what she'd look like (useful tidbit for fanfiction: Creators can design the looks of their unison device). She even called in help from Yuuno and Mari to make it, so the TSAB definitely knows how to make unison devices. If you're referring to the communication between Eins and Zwei in the StrikerS sound stages, that was because Eins left a message in Hayate's linker core so that if there ever was a new unison device, she could pass on her last words.

2012-02-01, 16:12	Link #5506
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	And also tend to reduce all but a few to clumps of meat, so they have ways to go themselves as well.

2012-02-01, 16:28	Link #5509
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Natural selection taken to the extreme.

2012-02-01, 17:08	Link #5512
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	.... Yeeeeaaaah, not too subtle mister Vandin.

2012-02-01, 17:33	Link #5513
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	I don't think these new guys are affiliated with Vandin, though, Aki: why call themselves the whatever family if that were the case? And what, seriously? It's a good thing that's not actually on the Divider, or you'd be completely boned if your sniper missed.

2012-02-01, 17:51	Link #5515
Arcc Knight who says D'ni Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: -0,-0,-0,-0: The Brink of Time Age: 36	Or maybe Mr. Vandin is another Scaglietti, leaving his fancy "come and get me" trail of breadcrumbs. . . but in this case it's directed at the Hucks, rather than Fate and Co. __________________ The more that you resist the tide The more it pulls you in The more you hang on for your life~

2012-02-01, 17:58	Link #5516
Kuze Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011	Not to be exacting about it, but serial numbers are only worthwhile as evidence when you have the trail that leads you right to the place of manufacture - which seems to still be out of Fate's hands at the moment when we look at Mr Vandin play acting with his gunblade. If we're gonna call it straight, then already there would be fingers pointing in the direction of Vandin ever since Touma accidentally the whole facility in chapter 1. And really, after the mess on Liberty where the TSAB already knows that Vandin is experimenting on the virus, then it's not like there's no shortage of suspicion to cast upon the company. The question again, becomes finding the proof. And I didn't think that Veyron would be religiously intolerant in /that/ way.

2012-02-01, 17:59	Link #5517
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	If Curren is to be believed, it seems that the Hucks used to work with Vandin Corp. but were betrayed and now Curren is on her way to make them pay. I really hope they don't pull the "the Hucks were good all along" card. The foreshadowing of a full scale war between two evil factions with the heroes trapped in the crossfire sounds really, really exciting xD! If anything i want the Hucks and Section Six forced to cooperate in an "enemy mine" situation xD. __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-02-01, 17:59	Link #5518
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	Well, unaffiliated in that they weren't produced by Vandin, just hanging around. Wait, his name is Hades? Are you kidding me?

2012-02-01, 18:36	Link #5519
itanshi1 Writer, Jester, MtG nerd Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nanoha Used Car Dealership. RERISE!	Thought we had a Hades, Heidi E S Ingvalt __________________ For those that belittle their favorite characters, complain about pairings, complain about oversexed images. Stop, thank you. Fear Anxiety Doubt is but a fad. The life of a fad depends entirely on the willingness to support it. Difficulty is a choice. Determination is a path. Your next great idea after your destination is the true goal.

2012-02-01, 18:49	Link #5520
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	Spoiler: So, was that Veyron having the flashback in 19, or the Strosek? I want to say the former, but that kid and her had really similar-looking hair. Apparently each infected has some kind of specific super-power. I wish they'd get around to fully explaining this stuff instead of just having characters who know it all discuss it.