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Sunder the Gold · 2012-12-21, 09:34

One person suggested that a good part of Yuuno's pursuit of lost knowledge is driven by a desire to know more about his own origins.

But that's not the "Parent" I meant.

Spoiler for Mentor-Protege relations in Brain Burst:

Now, you might have meant "Leave his mentor unknown", just as nothing is known about Black Lotus' own mentor for a long, long while.

But see, the author laid the groundwork first. He had absolutely decided who Black Lotus' "Parent" was before he started writing.

That's a lot different from not making any decision at all and just making it up as I go.

Lhklan · 2012-12-21, 10:15

Spoiler for suggestion:

Sunder the Gold · 2012-12-21, 15:44

Here's that better Accel World color chart picture I found: http://i.imgur.com/Uk4ig.jpg

For a quick aside, let me post something that Judge Mental shared with us over at Spacebattles.
http://forums.spacebattles.com/threa...9#post-9153075

"...have Link (Legend of Zelda) be Yuuno's worst enemy.

"After all, Yuuno was originally an archaeologist. His reason for being was to dig up the remnants of Those Who Came Before, study them, and gain valuable insights into human history and nature. And this pointy-eared blond punk is running around Ancient Ruins, throwing switches that activate fragile Ancient Devices (at least some of which break in the process), stealing priceless Ancient Artifacts (which should be in a museum), killing Ancient Monsters Animals (somebody call PETA, dammit!), breaking Ancient Pots left, right, and center, and liberally dispensing high explosives wherever he goes! Not to mention that he keeps deciphering all the Ancient Runes (distinct from Ancient Ruins) and solving all the Ancient Puzzles with the sort of casual, irreverent ease that would make Yuuno want to deck him even if he wasn't a tomb raider.

"Link, meanwhile, is trying to go about his usual business of saving Hyrule, only to find himself constantly interrupted and opposed by this angry mage who is sometimes a ferret. The other boy doesn't seem like one of Ganon's minions - the Master Sword doesn't react to him like he's even small-e evil, let alone big-E Evil - and he's not actually looking to hurt anybody, but he keeps trying to stop Link from clearing the dungeons and recovering the items he needs to complete his quest, ranting about "irreplaceable cultural icons," "historical landmarks," and other stuff that more or less goes over the young Hero's head. Plus, every time Link asks him to lend a hand or offers to fetch something from the current dungeon for him - because when you meet somebody that isn't a monster in a dungeon, they're either there to help you or be helped by you, right? - the other boy just flies off the handle.

"Yuuno thinks Link needs to be locked up.

"Link thinks Yuuno needs to sit back, drink some Milk, and just chill."

Justin_Brett · 2012-12-21, 21:14

I think after the first few times he'd realize someone has to stop Ganon, Vaati, Veran, Onyx, or whoever else is attacking Hyrule at the moment, and that he needs that stuff to do it. Yuuno's not an idiot.

MeisterBabylon · 2012-12-24, 06:32

And so, after a hot and steamy fight in a volcano, Yuuno and Link finally see eye to eye and team up in an epic bromance to save the collective galaxies?

KeithKurogane · 2012-12-27, 05:41

Hmm...
Have anyone considered a crossover of Nanoha and Eden of the East?

Spoiler for Spoiler:

Akiyoshi · 2012-12-28, 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeithKurogane

Hmm...
Have anyone considered a crossover of Nanoha and Eden of the East?

Spoiler for Spoiler:

It will be pretty hard to pull out considering the semi-realistic setting of Eden of the East ...mmhh... maybe if the crossover is with Nanoha FORCE it could work.

Justin_Brett · 2012-12-28, 19:03

I've been watching the original Saint Seiya recently - seems like that could be kind of interesting crossed over with Nanoha.

Akiyoshi · 2012-12-28, 19:09

Aside of ruinning the concept of the Saints forever i guess Saint Seiya Omega can be of some utility at least for something like that xDU

Sansker · 2012-12-28, 19:34

I don't think they can be use for such a thing. Will be a really short fight if they are enemies

Akiyoshi · 2012-12-28, 19:50

I haven't seen much of SS Omega past Ep 2. so i don't know how their power levels evolve but a fight with the old school saints will be a total curbstomp for poor Nanohaverse's cast xDU

The Saints (specially the Gold Saints) are ridiculously overpowered in many ways (the Bronze Saints ...the weaker of the list all can move at supersonic speeds and shatter solid rock with their bare fists ...it only goes worst from there up the scale xDU).

Sansker · 2012-12-28, 20:05

To me it all fails when I see the gold saints being kill one by one and the bronze saints fix everything. I mean they even beat the gold ones so why they are still the bronze?

On a crossover note, they can't fly, and Nanoha can SLB them from the sky and end everything

Akiyoshi · 2012-12-28, 20:35

The core Bronze Saints (Seiya and his gang) were the only ones able to reach gold saint level, the Hades chapter and the Lost Canvas series are good examples of what the Gold Saints really can do (they were really misused during the original series, they started very strong but from the Asgard Saga onwards they were turned into Signum-like characters who are only used as reference to see how strong are the new bad guys of each season xDU).

Flight is not really a challenge for most Gold Saints as some of them can manipulate abstract forces that can reach very large range at almost relativistic speeds (prime examples are Aioria of Leo who can project bolt punches at lightspeed and Shaka of Virgo who can even move trough parallel dimensions without even the need of standing up). Fate and Tre will be probably moving in slow motion for most of them ...plus the Gold Clothes are so immensely durable it needed the power of a freking God to finally destroy those for good. What they probably lack is wide destructive capability ...like Belkan knights most Saint attacks do damage in a short area but the effectivenes of said damage can range from Rock destroying to star killer ...or alternatively, some Saints have low-range yet higly broken abilities like Shura's Excalibur which can cut trough virtually any substance.

The wide scale of the strongest Saints's abilities and potential put them effectively over some other notably strong animeverses like the Dragon Ball-verse for example ...at least in one-on-one fights.

Sansker · 2012-12-28, 21:26

I will admit I just didn't like the series that much. I mean I didn't hate it but I just watch it and all I can remmember is them going to fight the bad guys while Saori is with some kind of slow killing thing on her chest

Justin_Brett · 2012-12-28, 23:01

Quote:

Aside of ruinning the concept of the Saints forever i guess Saint Seiya Omega can be of some utility at least for something like that xDU

At least you're not complaining that one of their Gold Saints is a woman, I guess.

And I dunno, them having a school for Saints sounds more reasonable to me than sending a six year old to a place called Death Queen Island.

Akiyoshi · 2012-12-29, 04:23

Oh yeah, Hogwarts for Saints ...thanks for reminding me about that -_-U

...well, yeah, the original series has lots of inconsistencies but at least the Saint felt like true warriors not like some sort of Pretty Cure/Power Rangers mix.

But considering Section Six is sort of a sentai team itself it may work xDU

(i can't believe i'm gonna say this but most of the Nanohaverse girls are manlier than the main cast of SS Omega xDU).

Justin_Brett · 2012-12-29, 12:48

Then they're manlier than the original five too, since all of them were bishies as well.

I've seen 26 episodes of it, and while it's okay, nothing I've seen in it has really been dignified.

Lhklan · 2012-12-29, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

Then they're manlier than the original five too, since all of them were bishies as well.

I've seen 26 episodes of it, and while it's okay, nothing I've seen in it has really been dignified.

Ikki would like to have a word with you.

BeastsLair's Fraggle · 2012-12-29, 12:57

random question.

I'm writing a oneshot in responce to a idea/challenge on the Beast's lairs but I seemed to have misplaced my Nanoha lore a bit.

Does anyone have a nifty list off all the jewel seeds that appeared in the series, and what they mutated?

I remember the shadow blob, the morning wood, the swimming pool from a extra stage, the MegaNeko and 7 more that sunk in the ocean.

Sunder the Gold · 2012-12-29, 13:04

After Nanoha and Yuuno teamed up with the TSAB, they faced a Jewel Seed monster in the form of a giant bird. Yuuno chained it down and Nanoha sealed it.

Reminded me of how Cardcaptor Sakura used The Windy to bind The Fly (which had taken the form of giant bird) in order to seal it.

2012-12-21, 09:34	Link #881
Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	One person suggested that a good part of Yuuno's pursuit of lost knowledge is driven by a desire to know more about his own origins. But that's not the "Parent" I meant. Spoiler for Mentor-Protege relations in Brain Burst: I meant the mentor who shared their one copy of the Brain Burst program with him, making him their "Child"/protege. Takumu's "parent" was the captain of his school's kendo team, who thought Takumu had the talent, skills and mental ability to be a great Burst Linker -- moreover, another near-pure Blue avatar. Bringing another such avatar into the swordsmen of Blue Legion would have advanced the "parent's" own standing among the guild's inner circle. There are various reasons to make someone your Child, but you're generally always out to get something, even if it's just satisfaction. Afterall, Brain Burst is a very demanding game; not everyone is capable of successfully installing it, not everyone is capable of surviving the fights, losing all your points deletes the game, the game cannot be downloaded twice, and no one can offer the game to more than one person. A Burst Linker only has one shot at making anyone else into another Burst Linker, so they want to make it count. Especially since it must be done in person, which reveals your real-life identity (a major security risk in Brain Burst) and requires someone to trust you enough to directly connect their cyborg-implant Neuro-Linker to yours, bypassing 90% of security measures. Now, you might have meant "Leave his mentor unknown", just as nothing is known about Black Lotus' own mentor for a long, long while. But see, the author laid the groundwork first. He had absolutely decided who Black Lotus' "Parent" was before he started writing. That's a lot different from not making any decision at all and just making it up as I go.

2012-12-21, 10:15	Link #882
Lhklan The Unpronounceable Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Clock Tower	Spoiler for suggestion: How about Jail? That would be a big twist. I mean, both of them are quite interested in the history of the past. But while Yuuno wish to understand it and use it to help others, Jail seek to make that power his own. That's just my opinion though.

2012-12-24, 06:32	Link #885
MeisterBabylon ~ Your Smile ~ Author Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 346Pro Age: 38	And so, after a hot and steamy fight in a volcano, Yuuno and Link finally see eye to eye and team up in an epic bromance to save the collective galaxies? __________________ 白露型駆逐艦の４番艦、夕立です。第三次ソロモン海戦では、けっこう頑張ったっぽい★？

2012-12-27, 05:41	Link #886
KeithKurogane Recorder of World Lines Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Flonyard, Divergence 1.0458586%	Hmm... Have anyone considered a crossover of Nanoha and Eden of the East? Spoiler for Spoiler: Juiz is one awesome AI. __________________

2012-12-28, 19:09	Link #889
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	Aside of ruinning the concept of the Saints forever i guess Saint Seiya Omega can be of some utility at least for something like that xDU __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-12-21, 15:44	Link #883
Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Here's that better Accel World color chart picture I found: http://i.imgur.com/Uk4ig.jpg For a quick aside, let me post something that Judge Mental shared with us over at Spacebattles. http://forums.spacebattles.com/threa...9#post-9153075 "...have Link (Legend of Zelda) be Yuuno's worst enemy. "After all, Yuuno was originally an archaeologist. His reason for being was to dig up the remnants of Those Who Came Before, study them, and gain valuable insights into human history and nature. And this pointy-eared blond punk is running around Ancient Ruins, throwing switches that activate fragile Ancient Devices (at least some of which break in the process), stealing priceless Ancient Artifacts (which should be in a museum), killing Ancient Monsters Animals (somebody call PETA, dammit!), breaking Ancient Pots left, right, and center, and liberally dispensing high explosives wherever he goes! Not to mention that he keeps deciphering all the Ancient Runes (distinct from Ancient Ruins) and solving all the Ancient Puzzles with the sort of casual, irreverent ease that would make Yuuno want to deck him even if he wasn't a tomb raider. "Link, meanwhile, is trying to go about his usual business of saving Hyrule, only to find himself constantly interrupted and opposed by this angry mage who is sometimes a ferret. The other boy doesn't seem like one of Ganon's minions - the Master Sword doesn't react to him like he's even small-e evil, let alone big-E Evil - and he's not actually looking to hurt anybody, but he keeps trying to stop Link from clearing the dungeons and recovering the items he needs to complete his quest, ranting about "irreplaceable cultural icons," "historical landmarks," and other stuff that more or less goes over the young Hero's head. Plus, every time Link asks him to lend a hand or offers to fetch something from the current dungeon for him - because when you meet somebody that isn't a monster in a dungeon, they're either there to help you or be helped by you, right? - the other boy just flies off the handle. "Yuuno thinks Link needs to be locked up. "Link thinks Yuuno needs to sit back, drink some Milk, and just chill."

2012-12-21, 21:14	Link #884
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	I think after the first few times he'd realize someone has to stop Ganon, Vaati, Veran, Onyx, or whoever else is attacking Hyrule at the moment, and that he needs that stuff to do it. Yuuno's not an idiot.

2012-12-28, 19:03	Link #888
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	I've been watching the original Saint Seiya recently - seems like that could be kind of interesting crossed over with Nanoha.

2012-12-28, 19:34	Link #890
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	I don't think they can be use for such a thing. Will be a really short fight if they are enemies __________________

2012-12-28, 19:50	Link #891
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	I haven't seen much of SS Omega past Ep 2. so i don't know how their power levels evolve but a fight with the old school saints will be a total curbstomp for poor Nanohaverse's cast xDU The Saints (specially the Gold Saints) are ridiculously overpowered in many ways (the Bronze Saints ...the weaker of the list all can move at supersonic speeds and shatter solid rock with their bare fists ...it only goes worst from there up the scale xDU). __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-12-28, 20:05	Link #892
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	To me it all fails when I see the gold saints being kill one by one and the bronze saints fix everything. I mean they even beat the gold ones so why they are still the bronze? On a crossover note, they can't fly, and Nanoha can SLB them from the sky and end everything __________________

2012-12-28, 20:35	Link #893
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	The core Bronze Saints (Seiya and his gang) were the only ones able to reach gold saint level, the Hades chapter and the Lost Canvas series are good examples of what the Gold Saints really can do (they were really misused during the original series, they started very strong but from the Asgard Saga onwards they were turned into Signum-like characters who are only used as reference to see how strong are the new bad guys of each season xDU). Flight is not really a challenge for most Gold Saints as some of them can manipulate abstract forces that can reach very large range at almost relativistic speeds (prime examples are Aioria of Leo who can project bolt punches at lightspeed and Shaka of Virgo who can even move trough parallel dimensions without even the need of standing up). Fate and Tre will be probably moving in slow motion for most of them ...plus the Gold Clothes are so immensely durable it needed the power of a freking God to finally destroy those for good. What they probably lack is wide destructive capability ...like Belkan knights most Saint attacks do damage in a short area but the effectivenes of said damage can range from Rock destroying to star killer ...or alternatively, some Saints have low-range yet higly broken abilities like Shura's Excalibur which can cut trough virtually any substance. The wide scale of the strongest Saints's abilities and potential put them effectively over some other notably strong animeverses like the Dragon Ball-verse for example ...at least in one-on-one fights. __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-12-28, 21:26	Link #894
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	I will admit I just didn't like the series that much. I mean I didn't hate it but I just watch it and all I can remmember is them going to fight the bad guys while Saori is with some kind of slow killing thing on her chest __________________

2012-12-29, 04:23	Link #896
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	Oh yeah, Hogwarts for Saints ...thanks for reminding me about that -_-U ...well, yeah, the original series has lots of inconsistencies but at least the Saint felt like true warriors not like some sort of Pretty Cure/Power Rangers mix. But considering Section Six is sort of a sentai team itself it may work xDU (i can't believe i'm gonna say this but most of the Nanohaverse girls are manlier than the main cast of SS Omega xDU). __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-12-29, 12:48	Link #897
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	Then they're manlier than the original five too, since all of them were bishies as well. I've seen 26 episodes of it, and while it's okay, nothing I've seen in it has really been dignified.

2012-12-29, 12:57	Link #899
BeastsLair's Fraggle Member Join Date: Aug 2012	random question. I'm writing a oneshot in responce to a idea/challenge on the Beast's lairs but I seemed to have misplaced my Nanoha lore a bit. Does anyone have a nifty list off all the jewel seeds that appeared in the series, and what they mutated? I remember the shadow blob, the morning wood, the swimming pool from a extra stage, the MegaNeko and 7 more that sunk in the ocean.

2012-12-29, 13:04	Link #900
Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	After Nanoha and Yuuno teamed up with the TSAB, they faced a Jewel Seed monster in the form of a giant bird. Yuuno chained it down and Nanoha sealed it. Reminded me of how Cardcaptor Sakura used The Windy to bind The Fly (which had taken the form of giant bird) in order to seal it.