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Overall though I really do think that the theory mentioned by the industry reps TJR quoted - that otaku often buy the DVD or Bluray as a souvenir of their experiences during the theatrical run or TV airing of a big anime - is one of the biggest factors. It would also explain the high sales of some other shows like Angel Beats. Quote:
I suppose that I like NIS releases a lot in large part due to their gorgeous artboxes and such, but very few R1 companies take advantage of the physical nature of the their products the way NIS does.
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2011-09-01, 06:00 | Link #543 | |
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Otaku are defined by them as: ""people who spend almost all their spare money and time for leisure or hobbies on a field in which they have a strong interest (consumer characteristic), and who possess unique psychological characteristics. (a.k.a. see it as an identity/are part of a subculture)". Interestingly the total anime buying market in Japan is estimated to be 200k individuals. I would interpret that as half the anime buyers are not active in the social side of the hobby. So I think there is evidence for both the "memory of fun times" theory of TJR and the "buying it because you love it" view of Goggen. Really succesfull anime in terms of disc sales will appeal to multiple types of otaku, for example Steins gate can also target game and electronics otaku, Bakemonogatari attracted both fujoshi, male otaku and manga fans etc. What makes K-On unique is that it managed to escape the otaku scene altogether and attracted mainstream school aged children. That hasn't happened for any late night anime since NGE, even Haruhi, Madoka and Nanoha were mostly otaku phenomenon. Last edited by Bri; 2011-09-01 at 06:42. Reason: spelling |
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2011-09-01, 06:17 | Link #544 |
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I'm a big fan of many of this studio's animes that have rolled out over the years, some good examples being the likes of Air, The Melancholy Of Haruhi Suzumiya, Kanon, Lucky Star & both Clannad seasons
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Do you have any speculations on which shows are popular with which half of the fanbase? Do you think there's any difference? Two statistical notes: first, that some of the major releases TV anime of recent years have achieved 20%+ market penetration if the market is 200K, and second, ratings would suggest a lot more than 200K people tune in for some late night shows so the paying audience is a subset. Wait, Bakemonogatari attracted fujoshi? I'll admit my girlfriend loves it, but she's a moe otaku in addition to being a fujoshi, its not because of her fujoshi interests.
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Going back to the topic: I don't think it's possible to assign particular tastes to either group. One side gets a form of group identity and a creative outlet (lifestyle?) from anime, the other side are pure collectors following their own interests. I would assume the first group is more likely to concentrate on shows that generate discussion or concentrate on a genre with like minded individuals, while the second is probably spread out more evenly. I don't believe in the type A/B generalisation. Quote:
I agree that ratings do show there is a significantly larger audience than those who buy anime. I suspect there is quite a bit of turnover in the fanbase, it's not an easy or cheap lifestyle. One in how many viewers would be enticed to take up otaku spending habits? Quote:
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2011-09-01, 16:18 | Link #547 |
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I see the claim that K-on attracted all kinds of demographics constantly but I've yet to see anyone explicitly prove it with some sort of statistic or article. Granted I've yet to see anyone prove statistically what the actual demographic breakup of the people who bought it is. I'd positively love to see all this cleared up at some point for the sake of this debates credibility.
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2011-09-01, 17:05 | Link #548 | |
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Just look at this site. The Japanese Disney Channel is obviously aimed at kids, and not otakus.
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2011-09-01, 17:20 | Link #549 | |
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http://www.disneychannel.jp/disneych...tail/?pid=k_on
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2011-09-01, 17:28 | Link #550 | |
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I always did claim that K-On was the kind of show that rightfully should be targetted towards children. This just seems natural to me. |
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2011-09-01, 20:46 | Link #553 | |
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However, a show doesn't air on the Disney Channel if it can't appeal to kids at all, imo. So, as a somewhat educated guess, I'd say that K-On! appealed to young adult male otakus and a significant number of girls between the ages of 7 and 15. It's an unusual demographic combo to achieve, but K-On! appears to have achieved it, imo.
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2011-09-01, 20:59 | Link #555 |
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Well thry left the one panty shot out originally anyway (the otaku crowd had been waiting for it and never got it), and I imagne the rest won't phase Japanese kids at all. They aren't American children (or more accurately American soccer moms).
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2011-09-01, 21:10 | Link #556 | |
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If I had a 7-year old daughter, I'd honestly feel entirely comfortable watching K-On with her.
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2011-09-01, 23:00 | Link #558 | |
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Learning that at a young age will enable kids to accept this earlier, I think. It'll let them accept that it's not always the hardest working person who does the best. That life can be... unfair that way.
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