2013-01-11, 22:53 | Link #81 | |
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There are just some instances where the blend does not work and Strike Witches is one of them. |
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2013-01-11, 22:58 | Link #83 |
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Agreed, but I think 11eyes also used a lot of fanservice especially with Yuka and Misuzu towards the end. Fanservice doesn't work with me overall in serious anime. If it's something like Dog Days, I'm okay with it, but for an anime such as Fate/Zero, no.
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2013-01-11, 22:59 | Link #85 | |
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It wasn't made for them.I'm part of the masses,I don't feel one bit guilty about it,I've had this conversation a few times with Pocari Sweat,I personally don't have any guilty pleasures (my parents and friends know I watch stuff like Sora no Otoshimono) And yes,fanservice is to strike witches what fabulousness is to jojo,it's what gives the show its flavor,same with HoTD. That being said,I perfectly understand the notion that fanservice can be distracting.And I'm sure creators do too. Take nazo no kanojo X, in one scene of episode 11 the protag is surrounded by 2 naked girls,the scene was censored when it aired on TV and was kept censored on the Blu-ray because the creators felt the point of the scene wasn't to see two girls naked.
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2013-01-11, 23:02 | Link #86 |
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I'm not sure the scene was trying to be comedic. A better term is "thrilling", or "exploitative". Again, there's multiple varieties of fanservice/action/comedy/seriousness, at all points along a graph that I'm not going to draw because I really hope I'm expressing this well enough with words.
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2013-01-11, 23:06 | Link #88 | |
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They are only being shoved down your throat since you chose to watch series with extensive fanservice. It's like watching YuruYuri and complaining about all the girl on girl. Quote:
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2. Saying that fanservice ruined the show is like complaining that faulty science ruined the show. It's a fundamental part of the show, the fact that it ruined the show for you doesn't mean it's bad. Quote:
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lol'd so hard there... Not really a fan of tits that large though. EDIT: I noticed everyone were using nice comments with links and names. I'll try for my future posts... |
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2013-01-11, 23:11 | Link #91 |
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It can be both! When "makes (almost) no sense" and "sexy action" are put together, "exploitation" is often what ensues. There used to be a whole movie industry based around this kind of thing. It has tradition. Maybe not a proud tradition, but it's part of filmmaking too.
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2013-01-11, 23:20 | Link #92 | |
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Fanservice isn't necessary in Strike Witches. You could have a Strike Witches without it, but it's fundamental to Strike Witches. You could have a Strike Witches without it, but it wouldn't be the same Strike Witches anymore. One of the several traits that makes Strike Witches Strike Witches is fanservice. |
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2013-01-11, 23:24 | Link #93 | |
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2013-01-11, 23:34 | Link #95 | |
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The series benefits from it's "science" fiction aspects in a vague way. What was the benefit of going the scifi route instead of the fantasy route? Maybe if they went the fantasy route, physics majors could have enjoyed it more since they could brush of the setting as pure rubbish easier. Of course they didn't. The producers chose a variety of traits. Those traits, even though they could easily be changed and still result in a good series, are fundamental to what the show is. |
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2013-01-11, 23:36 | Link #96 | ||
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Perhaps it's just a twisted analogy in this case. In your Hawaiian shirt analogy, I pointed that things stop being distracting when it's the established norm in the world in question. You said, you don't want to get used to a world where this is the norm, and want to live in a world with more variety. But just because one show does something doesn't mean that all shows will do the same. And just because you're okay with something being done one way in one show, doesn't mean that you'd consider it equally okay in every other show regardless of overall theme, tone, style, approach, etc. So that is the straw man, but maybe you just misunderstood the intended context of my original reply in this case.
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Either way, it's not like anything we say at this point is going to change the way Vivid Red Operation is made. Each person will have to make their own decision about whether it's a show for them or not, and whether they can accept whatever they do in this area or not.
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2013-01-11, 23:47 | Link #97 | |
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2013-01-12, 01:01 | Link #99 |
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No problem if it's declared as Ecchi in the first place. If it isn't then there is a problem. HighSchool of the Dead is Ecchi.. and Strike Witches is Ecchi? I doubt it... But they add fanservice.. so thats a problem... It should've been prewarned
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But with Highschool of the Dead, and with that scene, it's just too much still. Even though there are scenes where the fanservice is clearly supposed to be more for humor, it still feels like too much. The way they animate the breasts bouncing around the bullet and such is just overkill. It's funny, but it stops being funny when they've tried so very hard. With that gif, I got to a: "I'm sorry, but that's just stupid," point. There has to be some moderation even if you're going for hilarious-level fanservice. At least have the fanservice be animated tastefully!
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