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Old 2007-12-23, 03:46   Link #81
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why is it always the same 20 people doing English dubs (they must have one kick ass union)
I kinda wish they could introduce some new names or use real actors. oh well i can still dream
Define "real actors" for us please. And if it involves ones paychecks don't bother. Money does not equal quality. More often than not it's about having the right connections. Hell, you even need connections to get into dubbing

Not to mention dubbing anime is very challenging and according to some posts at the AnimeonDVD forums big names have tried but apparently don't have what it takes a lot of the time. And most of those on the cast have given solid performances in other roles.
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Old 2007-12-23, 07:25   Link #82
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why is it always the same 20 people doing English dubs (they must have one kick ass union)
I kinda wish they could introduce some new names or use real actors. oh well i can still dream
You... DO realize anime is a niche, right? Or the companies' standards are too high. Pretty much, there really are not that many people willing to dub. No offense to them, but I could think of it as washed-out actors people forgot about that still found a way to make money. They may also be fans, or are mainly animation voice actors in a live-action culture. The reason you see repeated roles is because there is not enough of a pool to veer from it.
Despite the size of our little anime community, it's still a niche. This may also be transferred to the people willing to act for them as well.
The companies can only make so much money since it's a rather small community among the English-speaking world. Real actors (I'm guessing, what, Patrick Stewart here? Or maybe Samuel Jackson, if we take Afro Samurai into account.) would also be much more expensive.

Being new, I must ask: Do dub threads tend to veer from the actual dub a lot, usually going into justifying the meer existence of it? I mean, I can't say too much since I've never seen Code Geass. We need another trailer or something.
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Old 2007-12-23, 09:43   Link #83
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Thankfully someone youtubed it ->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQr4bWaVWD8
what i meant was that it was so iecky that i didn't watch it completely, eitherway thanks for the youtube link incse the other ever dies
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Old 2007-12-23, 09:58   Link #84
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Being new, I must ask: Do dub threads tend to veer from the actual dub a lot, usually going into justifying the meer existence of it? I mean, I can't say too much since I've never seen Code Geass. We need another trailer or something.
"Hardcore" anime viewers will often treat dubs, no matter what the quality, as if they were an injured race horse that should be put down. I stroll through various forums constantly rolling my eyes at comments like "My ears are bleeding" or the classic gem "Dubs make Jesus cry". I get the feeling that many people view dubs just so they have the chance to criticize how much better the original audio is.
My stance towards dubbing is neutral. If a dub brings in a whole new audience (and knowing Adult Swim, Code Geass's dub will), then I'm all for it. The dub watchers are still experiencing the same exact story that I did when watching the sub. More people viewing the epicness that is Code Geass can never be a bad thing. All it means is that I'll have new people to discuss it with. Criticizing a particular dub is fine, but to tear it down prematurely when you don't even intend to watch it seriously is just lame.
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Old 2007-12-23, 15:14   Link #85
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by real actors i just mean people who can read off a verse with the emotion thats supposed to be there (kinda like the Japanese voice actors do it)

i was really just wondering why the choices are so limited to the same people it just i think some of these anime (especially this one) deserve better
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Old 2007-12-23, 16:14   Link #86
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by real actors i just mean people who can read off a verse with the emotion thats supposed to be there (kinda like the Japanese voice actors do it)
I think most of the cast has proven they can do it just fine. How many more perfect screams does Sasuke have to do before you consider Yuri good? Bosch has shown equal skill in the Devil May Cry trailers as Nero and if you want an insane version of his acting just watch Heat Guy J. Do I even need to mention Liam O'Brien's insane Gaara or his Vincent Law that helped make Ergo Proxy one of the best dubs of the year in the eyes of many? I'd call him one of the best in the business. Higgens may lack range, but I liked her Sakura and her Talho.
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Old 2007-12-23, 19:03   Link #87
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I read in an interview that Yuri prefers listening to anime in its original language since he is fluent in Japanese (you can tell by the way he pronounces Japanese names with an accent in Naruto). Obviously the market for new actors in the US is pretty low and get recycled over and over again. Anime is a part of Japanese culture (as can be seen in Genshiken). It's not a phenomenon here in the US since the country didn't create anime. It all comes down to money and delivering lines from the director. Why do you think we have celebrities making millions in contracts? Here, VAs are near the bottom of the food chain when it comes to income and have to join unions (or using aliases) just to make a certain amount. These VAs are not in it for fame, glory, and wealth. It's just to do what they wanted and to survive to make ends meet.

Code Geass would be perfect on Adult Swim to replace Blood+. If I get criticized for doing a poor job at it, then I improve on it. Bosch doesn't have a lot of range like Higgins, but he seems to get plenty of lead roles lately in anime and video games. He does fit for Nero in DMC4 like Ichigo. As Lelouch, I have to watch and hear if it is any good. If I want to watch subs with my eyes straining from reading the text without looking at the actual anime, then I'm not actually watching it as I have to shift my eyes often. The dub in Death Note is pretty good (except for L which is probably deep) and seems to be interesting. Some of these VAs really need range like Bridget Hoffman (can do just about any role). I'll have to wait in Spring to see if it does live up to the Jap. VAs. I think the Jap. director did this on purpose just like the Jap. VAs for choosing English VAs.
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Old 2007-12-23, 20:24   Link #88
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I'm definitely not in the intended target audience for this...but the dub trailer seems to be fairly OK in my opinion, though it's still too short to know how well the actors will perform in their roles.

As for editing...as long as they don't edit the overall story itself, including the fact that murders and massacres happen, I suppose the show can survive shortening or cutting out a few scenes here and there.
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Old 2008-01-05, 01:49   Link #89
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I have high hopes for the dubb of this anime. BAndai usuallly makes great dubbing. There have been some great series that their dubbings are from quite good to stellar. Specially with CowBoy Bebop. Many people loved the dubbing that was made for this series from Badai.
I cant wait for this series to reach on DVDs ^_^. Remember everyone to support this series .
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Old 2008-01-05, 15:37   Link #90
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http://code-geass.bandai-ent.com/news/news_xx_07.htm

More samples of their voice x3
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Old 2008-01-05, 20:58   Link #91
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Terrorist A shall be a legend in dubbing.

Seriously though the only voice I liked was Suzaku's. (And Terrorist A)
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Old 2008-01-06, 09:50   Link #92
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Damn, that was there at December 8th! Wish we could have found that sooner! On another note, the one who did Terrorist A sounds like Lex Lang.
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Old 2008-01-08, 13:00   Link #93
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Code Geass will replace Blood+ when it is over and will start this Spring. I'm looking forward to the series as it seems to be very popular and has an interesting plot.
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Old 2008-01-08, 16:29   Link #94
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Code Geass will replace Blood+ when it is over and will start this Spring. I'm looking forward to the series as it seems to be very popular and has an interesting plot.
Good. I like Blood+, and an even better anime to follow shall keep me on the channel!
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Old 2008-01-08, 16:49   Link #95
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CC sounds good.
Kallen sounds too old.
Zero. . . power ranger dude doesn't fit Zero.
Suzaku. . . doesn't match up very well.
Terrorist A. . . good!

Zero and Suzaku should switch places. Yuri forces his voice a little deeper and I buy him as Zero. Bosch would make a better Suzaku or Lloyd. Bosch needs to make his voice deeeeeeper.
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Old 2008-01-08, 20:41   Link #96
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They're trying to pull off what Taniguchi pulled off with Fukada and whats his name...

Anyway, Suzu's jap VA is more evil and Fukuada is more Happy, so Taniguchi switched them up with roles.

Yuri has done more dark based characters such as Haseo from GU games, and Sasuke.

Johnny is the upcoming hero Nero in Devil may cry and our lovable Power Ranger from our childhoods.

Thus they have roles that are complete opposites of what they usually get.
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Old 2008-01-08, 21:16   Link #97
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Yuri has done more dark based characters such as Haseo from GU games, and Sasuke.
Also in US version? Wow.
Suzaku's VA did Haseo in Jpn version. Hence some fans call Suzaku the "Terror of Death".
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Johnny is the upcoming hero Nero in Devil may cry and our lovable Power Ranger from our childhoods.
That explains his hyper voice in the second file. XD

I believe Johnny will do a deeper voice. In the trailer, Lelouch's "well then" is deep enough.
In fact I love that line. It made me upload the trailer to Niconico and subbed it so Japanese fans could enjoy it as well.

Taniguchi picked the VAs for the main cast in US version, BTW. I also think he's trying to pull this trick again.
But this time without Taniguchi around to keep telling Johnny to lower his voice and Yuri to lighten up, we can only hope.
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Old 2008-01-09, 00:09   Link #98
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Damn, that was there at December 8th! Wish we could have found that sooner! On another note, the one who did Terrorist A sounds like Lex Lang.
*sigh* well....wait till it comes out and see the result.
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Old 2008-01-15, 10:05   Link #99
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I saw the trailer...and..er..

1. Lulu's voice has some serious issue
2. Suzaku's voice satisfying
3. C.C.'s pronunciation needs a bit of twitching
4. I hope they don't cut off stuff like "you-know-what"
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Old 2008-01-15, 10:55   Link #100
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Haha, Terrorist A for president!
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