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Dr_Easylove · 2004-10-10, 21:41

i cant beleive people are bashing the engrish in this (srin tuar was bashing it anyway) you have to understand that if it were any more perfect it would no longer be engrish but instead it would be english . as far as engrish goes, its the best ive ever heard. i laughed my ass off, and it was pretty damn beleiveable. true they could have gotten a real english speaker to do it but it has a cool effect this way, one we call engrish. if it were absoltley perfect then we would be like. "wow, english... big deal, i can do that too." (well, some of us would anyway...)

in conclusion, if you want good english read Shakespeare.

if you want good engrish watch Beck.

(ps: i know shakespeare spelled almost every word wrong and often made others up, but i think you get my point)

Avacado Burger · 2004-10-10, 22:55

Actually, that english/engrish from the soldiers did sound natural, well at least the accent and pronunciation. The delivery was a bit forced though, as if a native english speaker was reading off cue cards. Uhmm.. Kudos to Beck for having the best engrish I've heard in an anime.

I've never read the manga, but I did enjoy the 1st episode. Is it like Gravitation without the gay, or does it focus more on the rock aspect rather than relationships?

Melty Snow · 2004-10-11, 00:37

That was excellent. Such style, animation, and concept, getting the manga as I speak.

acidjames · 2004-10-11, 04:33

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Originally Posted by Avacado Burger

I've never read the manga, but I did enjoy the 1st episode. Is it like Gravitation without the gay, or does it focus more on the rock aspect rather than relationships?

I don't know gravitation, but in BECK there are many rock aspects and also important relationships, they blend together really well and that's one really good point of the manga, let's see how the anime recreates that.

About the ending theme, i think it's really cool, kind of reminds me of sonic youth. In the ending we can see many rock stars, as Kurt Cobain of course, and Freddy Mercury, Bob Marley, James Brown i think (or Miles Davis)... are there any others ? Maybe the Ramones guys

Trax · 2004-10-11, 06:08

Hehe the series is named after a dog. :P

Srin Tuar · 2004-10-11, 07:15

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Originally Posted by Avacado Burger

Actually, that english/engrish from the soldiers did sound natural, well at least the accent and pronunciation. The delivery was a bit forced though, as if a native english speaker was reading off cue cards. Uhmm.. Kudos to Beck for having the best engrish I've heard in an anime.

Hrm... I want some of what youre smoking.

It wasnt even close. Maybe if you asked the marine to read each word separately, then pretaped each word individually and edited them back into the audio, you might could maybe get something like what they had in the show.

I have no problem when they pretend "Engrish == fluent" in most shows, but in this show it was highly distracting.

Anyway, fubar engrish aside, I liked the show. I dont think I could recommend it to anyone. I'd never hear the end of it.

Animizzle · 2004-10-11, 13:58

It pained my ears too, but the soldiers were just bad voice actors, not bad english.

Now ryuuske, that was some fubar english ;p

Prince of Chronics · 2004-10-12, 22:17

I didn't read this thread or look the show up prior to watching the first episode... Beck seems to be the kind of show that I like... the music is that kind of generic pop rock, but I really liked the characters... I also liked the extensive profanity... I didn't think that this fall line-up of anime was gonna be any good... but shows like Bleach, Beck and SunaBozu all look pretty interesting...

I think AE did a nice job with the translation notes in the first episode... LMF uses a similar method... it is a good effect and it's not distracting imo...

jalana · 2004-10-13, 02:54

Engrish and accents aside...

I'm just waiting to see how the songs will sound. Songs like "Sister," "Human Fly," and "Tabasco" played such an important role in the manga... let's see if the songs the series comes up with fit.

s'my · 2004-10-14, 09:34

Well, based on the positive reviews in this thread I decided to give this new series a try - and I have to say it looks promising! Good vibes were gotten right from the start with the opening animation and the OP was great. Love the dog too, he looks like a chipper version of the Dog of Frankenstein.

Am now inspired to check out the manga as well!

...i was born to hit in america i was born to hit in america ...
(happy anime fan happily singing the lovely engrish op)

NoSanninWa · 2004-10-14, 17:42

I'm really hoping that the dog's fur is dyed. Otherwise it is just too sick looking.

Tommy · 2004-10-14, 22:11

I liked the first episode and how can any of you guys not love the engrish in this episode. Its freakin hilarious! Anywhoo definitly gonna follow this series and hope for more engrish in future eps

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Oh and BTW the art style reminds me alot of FLCL. Is it done by the same group?

s'my · 2004-10-15, 05:00

Beck anime is being done by Studio Madhouse, character design by Motonobu Hori, and according to those in the know, the style and character designs are pretty faithful to the original by mangaka Harold Sakuishi. Don't think any of them were involved in FLCL!
As for the dog, it definitely looks as if he's had stitching done.

leongsh · 2004-10-15, 05:20

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

I'm really hoping that the dog's fur is dyed. Otherwise it is just too sick looking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by s'my

As for the dog, it definitely looks as if he's had stitching done.

As a fan of the manga, my take is that the dog has had stitching done. Not mentioned in the manga though but there are clues in the manga about it.

H2-FumoGuu · 2004-10-15, 13:33

Don't know who Motnobu Hori is, but the character designs sort of reminded me of Koi Kaze anime. Anyway, the engrish is kind of funny but really, it's better than 99% of the other engrish that appears in anime and I give them major props for that. The long haired kid sounds all drunk like Rocky! =D

Fated · 2004-10-15, 20:43

You know I really don't get why everyone is talking about engrish yeah so it aint some fancy "American English" WHO CARES. Talk with a Scot, Irish or heck try talking to a Welshman who tries to communicate in proper English, 99.99% talk with an accent even though it's still a type of English. If you ask me they did a decent job......Thank god they didn't ask some Texan to do it.

Nishi`Joichiro · 2004-10-16, 02:02

Beat crusaders are insane.....i recently saw a video of them....all i can say that these guys are nuts.

truesayian · 2004-10-16, 02:43

Anybody know when the next episdoe will air in japan?

Fated · 2004-10-16, 05:19

with next ep you mean ep3 right ?

2004年10月20日放送　( 20th of oktober )

Soul Bro Ryu · 2004-10-16, 13:58

I'm no expert on spoken Japanese, but for those here who are fluent in the language and watched "Kill Bill, Vol. 1" thought that the gaijin actors in it did a decent job speaking it? Or did it sound like a reverse example of the awkward quality of English presented in Beck's 1st episode?

I remember watching "Blood: The Last Vampire" and remarking that the two female leads did a really great job in juggling Japanese and English-speaking lines throught the production, and had wondered if it would be the start of something new in anime. A few years later, we now have Beck and I was hoping that it would have the same quality of bi-lingual seiyuu that Blood had.

Not that the English in Beck wasn't competient, but it was pretty awkward. I thought it was hilarious, but during the scenes that were conveyed, I'm sure laughter wasn't something the staff was aiming for.

(Question for Stephen: When you guys translated the manga, did you all leave the English-quotes intact in the panels or made it more comprehensive English? I'm thinking it's the former...)

Some of the quality of the lines written in the show also didn't make sense.

Ryusuke "Ray" Minami: "I don't know about your town...but my friends in New York died!!!"

(Snicker) Alright, I'm just gonna' surmise that that he meant, "I don't know about your town, but my friends in New York died over bullshit like this!!!" or something like that. ^_^

Then again maybe I'm asking for too much. Thanks to this series uniqueness, I'm sure Beck will get picked up for a domestic release, and if so we'll have a dub to look forward to- and dread. Personally, I can't think of any other way to watch this show but in it's original language, but if the producers of a State-side version are smart they could do something dope like a special audio track as a bonus. One that combines the original seiyuu for the Japanese cast while having English VA's do the voices for English speaking characters. Since they weren't able to find a dude that could pull off Ryusuke's speaking voice smoothly in English, maybe they could find one in L.A., Texas, or Canada that can rock the lingo in both languages. Not to diss the poor cat that does Ryusuke's voice, but after hearing him say "scratched" I knew that he might be headed for trouble later on when the show...well, like other have said look as the series opening and you can guess where Beck will end up.

And if they don't have decent English-speaking VA's by that point, I'm gonna be in for a laugh riot in the later eps. ^_^

Love this show, love the manga. Can't wait to see more. BTW, Ep. 2 aired didn't it?

2004-10-10, 21:41	Link #41
Dr_Easylove Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	wow i cant beleive people are bashing the engrish in this (srin tuar was bashing it anyway) you have to understand that if it were any more perfect it would no longer be engrish but instead it would be english . as far as engrish goes, its the best ive ever heard. i laughed my ass off, and it was pretty damn beleiveable. true they could have gotten a real english speaker to do it but it has a cool effect this way, one we call engrish. if it were absoltley perfect then we would be like. "wow, english... big deal, i can do that too." (well, some of us would anyway...) in conclusion, if you want good english read Shakespeare. if you want good engrish watch Beck. (ps: i know shakespeare spelled almost every word wrong and often made others up, but i think you get my point)

2004-10-11, 13:58	Link #47
Animizzle Cool as a Cucumber Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Holland	It pained my ears too, but the soldiers were just bad voice actors, not bad english. Now ryuuske, that was some fubar english ;p __________________ hm....

2004-10-12, 22:17	Link #48
Prince of Chronics One Piece fan Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada	I didn't read this thread or look the show up prior to watching the first episode... Beck seems to be the kind of show that I like... the music is that kind of generic pop rock, but I really liked the characters... I also liked the extensive profanity... I didn't think that this fall line-up of anime was gonna be any good... but shows like Bleach, Beck and SunaBozu all look pretty interesting... I think AE did a nice job with the translation notes in the first episode... LMF uses a similar method... it is a good effect and it's not distracting imo... __________________ MyAnimeList page

2004-10-14, 09:34	Link #50
s'my watashi wa chiisaikeredo Join Date: Jul 2004	Thanks my fellow otakus! Well, based on the positive reviews in this thread I decided to give this new series a try - and I have to say it looks promising! Good vibes were gotten right from the start with the opening animation and the OP was great. Love the dog too, he looks like a chipper version of the Dog of Frankenstein. Am now inspired to check out the manga as well! ...i was born to hit in america i was born to hit in america ... (happy anime fan happily singing the lovely engrish op)

2004-10-14, 17:42	Link #51
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	I'm really hoping that the dog's fur is dyed. Otherwise it is just too sick looking. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2004-10-10, 22:55	Link #42
Avacado Burger Senpai, we musn't!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In Chinese Haruhi's sweatshop.	Actually, that english/engrish from the soldiers did sound natural, well at least the accent and pronunciation. The delivery was a bit forced though, as if a native english speaker was reading off cue cards. Uhmm.. Kudos to Beck for having the best engrish I've heard in an anime. I've never read the manga, but I did enjoy the 1st episode. Is it like Gravitation without the gay, or does it focus more on the rock aspect rather than relationships?

2004-10-11, 00:37	Link #43
Melty Snow <3 WoW undead girls Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in a cold puddle	That was excellent. Such style, animation, and concept, getting the manga as I speak.

2004-10-11, 06:08	Link #45
Trax Rock beats scissors Join Date: Jul 2004	Hehe the series is named after a dog. :P

2004-10-13, 02:54	Link #49
jalana Editorizor of Fansubs Join Date: Jul 2004	Engrish and accents aside... I'm just waiting to see how the songs will sound. Songs like "Sister," "Human Fly," and "Tabasco" played such an important role in the manga... let's see if the songs the series comes up with fit.

2004-10-14, 22:11	Link #52
Tommy Mr. Prince Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 40	I liked the first episode and how can any of you guys not love the engrish in this episode. Its freakin hilarious! Anywhoo definitly gonna follow this series and hope for more engrish in future eps . Oh and BTW the art style reminds me alot of FLCL. Is it done by the same group?

2004-10-15, 05:00	Link #53
s'my watashi wa chiisaikeredo Join Date: Jul 2004	Beck anime is being done by Studio Madhouse, character design by Motonobu Hori, and according to those in the know, the style and character designs are pretty faithful to the original by mangaka Harold Sakuishi. Don't think any of them were involved in FLCL! As for the dog, it definitely looks as if he's had stitching done.

2004-10-15, 13:33	Link #55
H2-FumoGuu パンツ。。。好き Join Date: Apr 2004	Don't know who Motnobu Hori is, but the character designs sort of reminded me of Koi Kaze anime. Anyway, the engrish is kind of funny but really, it's better than 99% of the other engrish that appears in anime and I give them major props for that. The long haired kid sounds all drunk like Rocky! =D

2004-10-15, 20:43	Link #56
Fated Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	You know I really don't get why everyone is talking about engrish yeah so it aint some fancy "American English" WHO CARES. Talk with a Scot, Irish or heck try talking to a Welshman who tries to communicate in proper English, 99.99% talk with an accent even though it's still a type of English. If you ask me they did a decent job......Thank god they didn't ask some Texan to do it.

2004-10-16, 02:02	Link #57
Nishi`Joichiro Last Survivor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Union Controlled Colony	Beat crusaders are insane.....i recently saw a video of them....all i can say that these guys are nuts.

2004-10-16, 02:43	Link #58
truesayian Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 38	Anybody know when the next episdoe will air in japan?

2004-10-16, 05:19	Link #59
Fated Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	with next ep you mean ep3 right ? 2004年10月20日放送　( 20th of oktober )

2004-10-16, 13:58	Link #60
Soul Bro Ryu Your Neighborhood Newtype Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Winter Park, FL; USA Age: 47	I'm no expert on spoken Japanese, but for those here who are fluent in the language and watched "Kill Bill, Vol. 1" thought that the gaijin actors in it did a decent job speaking it? Or did it sound like a reverse example of the awkward quality of English presented in Beck's 1st episode? I remember watching "Blood: The Last Vampire" and remarking that the two female leads did a really great job in juggling Japanese and English-speaking lines throught the production, and had wondered if it would be the start of something new in anime. A few years later, we now have Beck and I was hoping that it would have the same quality of bi-lingual seiyuu that Blood had. Not that the English in Beck wasn't competient, but it was pretty awkward. I thought it was hilarious, but during the scenes that were conveyed, I'm sure laughter wasn't something the staff was aiming for. (Question for Stephen: When you guys translated the manga, did you all leave the English-quotes intact in the panels or made it more comprehensive English? I'm thinking it's the former...) Some of the quality of the lines written in the show also didn't make sense. Ryusuke "Ray" Minami: "I don't know about your town...but my friends in New York died!!!" (Snicker) Alright, I'm just gonna' surmise that that he meant, "I don't know about your town, but my friends in New York died over bullshit like this!!!" or something like that. ^_^ Then again maybe I'm asking for too much. Thanks to this series uniqueness, I'm sure Beck will get picked up for a domestic release, and if so we'll have a dub to look forward to- and dread. Personally, I can't think of any other way to watch this show but in it's original language, but if the producers of a State-side version are smart they could do something dope like a special audio track as a bonus. One that combines the original seiyuu for the Japanese cast while having English VA's do the voices for English speaking characters. Since they weren't able to find a dude that could pull off Ryusuke's speaking voice smoothly in English, maybe they could find one in L.A., Texas, or Canada that can rock the lingo in both languages. Not to diss the poor cat that does Ryusuke's voice, but after hearing him say "scratched" I knew that he might be headed for trouble later on when the show...well, like other have said look as the series opening and you can guess where Beck will end up. And if they don't have decent English-speaking VA's by that point, I'm gonna be in for a laugh riot in the later eps. ^_^ Love this show, love the manga. Can't wait to see more. BTW, Ep. 2 aired didn't it?