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And yet Kyon won out over Mikuru... maybe Haruhi is quite straight herself. |
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Yeah, that would be pretty odd. The question is how she'd have reacted though... I think she would probably just be a bit baffled and ask Mikuru if she had a fever or something.
I'm sure Kyon however would have received a very different reaction. I'm almost certain that Haruhi let "fake Kyon" get pretty far before she decided to punch him. My guess is that she was dumbfounded into silence until slightly past the point where he leaned over and kissed her. Maybe even getting as far as a slight fondle before getting a smack in the mouth :P |
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But, eh, she herself said it don't matter if is male or female. So I guess bi-curious is a good guess. |
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2009-08-10, 02:12 | Link #465 |
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Like Heath said, I think the reason Haruhi is so aggressive with Mikuru is her submissive personality. She almost surely finds her appealing on some sexual level though, since she comments on it numerous times and seems to have a love of undressing and groping her.
That doesn't necessarily mean she prefers her though, it just makes her an easier target to release a bit of sexual frustration on. Which bit are you referring to? The part about Mikuru being a plaything, or Haruhi saying gender doesn't matter in a relationship? |
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For the Mikuru being a toy, I don't remeber which chapter was, but was on novel2. You must remember, since you read recently. |
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*e* Beaten to it again
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Judas H. Priest! Did this two-month-old thread just half-again its length in less than a day? Let's see if I can catch up...
On canon (not "cannon", as that's an explosive projectile weapon used mostly by pirates and Looney Tunes characters): Just go to this page. It defines canon better in a handful of paragraphs than the last 8 pages of this thread have. Then flip over to the "fanon" link in the last paragraph of the description to see where speculation fits in. Fear the mad skilz of TV Tropes. As it pertains to Haruhi, canon is simply defined. If Tanigawa wrote it, it's canon. If not, it ain't. But keep in mind that some of the derivative works can have their own canon. On shipping: Any shipping argument is irrelevant without... Well, let's be honest. Unless we're writing the official story, it's irrelevant anyway because we aren't writing it. But if we want to discuss possibilities, we have to take into account two things in order to honestly appraise the situation. That's how we want it and how it actually appears to be heading, as one will naturally affect the perception of the other. Listening to my heart: KyonxYuki -- 35% KyonxTsuruya-san - 35% KyonxMikuru - 10% None of the above - 20% Actually paying attention: KyonxHaruhi - 50% KyonxYuki - 25% KyonxTsuruya-san - 5% None of the above - 20% Slider-tan is either an AU Imouto-chan or an AU Tsuruya-san, (de)aged appropriately. Those are the only characters whose personalities fit. An alter!Tsuruya would have to be the largest change, as she would not be speaking in a Kansai dialect and would have to look almost completely different, as the difference of two years from high school senior to high school freshman is not enough to mask identity (unlike the three years from prepubescent Middle School freshman to hormonal High School freshman). Staying on the volumes 9/10 trip, only one timeline will remain, and that will be alpha, since they have an apparent slider and still generally come across more as the "control" timeline. How exactly the unlucky one (beta) "bites it" will be the point of the story. And hopefully worth the wait. I'm hoping for "violent and flashy" myself (with a healthy dose of "mindfuck"), but I wouldn't be surprised if we got some kind of merging... As for the Snow Mountain "hook ups", don't read too much into those. Yuki set those up intentionally so that a diagram of the situation would look like "4", which was the solution to getting the group out of the trap. While it certainly gives the reader something to think about, it can't really be taken seriously. Did I miss anything?
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2009-08-10, 02:48 | Link #472 |
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When you compare our posts, it's easy to see I got all my ideas from you.
Thank you, though. You shaped me during my formative years as a Haruhi fan at Baka-Tsuki, so I guess I can consider you "sensei", or something... It was probably Yuki's poor sense of humor kicking in again... |
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I'm going to have to reread volume 9 next so I can give my thoughts on this whole "Slider-tan is Imouto/Tsuruya theory". Honestly, I think both of those sound way off. Right now I think it's far more likely she's either a) A person he knew from middle school, or b) Someone who has never known in this dimension, but possesses imperfect knowledge of though a connection. Similar to how he remembers the Brigade's little Theatre adventure.
I'm also gonna drop my current "Where does the power come from theory" in here: Kyon holds the core of the data entity. For me it explains a lot of things, like how a human can have access to vast powers only displayed by the information lifeforms. Why Kyon is constantly monitored and sought after by the various factions. Why pretty much every important event attributed to Haruhi involves Kyon in some way. Such as the most important incident 3 years ago where HE was the one to actually draw the symbols. Which he got from Yuki as a card, and knew beforehand what they actually looked like. Did they turn out exactly as Haruhi planned, or did she merely accept whatever crazy patterns emerged? The reason Yuki is unquestioningly obedient to Kyon, even when faced with angering Haruhi and possibly jeopardising her mission as a result. Then most recently, why Sasaki and the anti-SOS seem to need Kyon (an apparently normal person) in order to acquire power from Haruhi... This to me makes a hell of a lot more sense than the whole "Haruhi is a God" idea, since nothing supernatural has ever made an appearance in Haruhi. With everything being explainable scientifically (in the novels). Using that as a premise, the only known source for such a power would be the data entities or something very similar. P.S. I look forward to getting this theory mercilessly shot down... |
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2009-08-10, 03:17 | Link #475 | |
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Well, first, the "incident 3 years ago" was not Tanabata. The time-travelers can't back before it, remember? I got the impression that it was the baseball game Haruhi talked about on the first novel. He may be needed by Sasaki's "brigade" because Haruhi is obviously in love with him. It is hard to say though. He is monitore by every faction for the same reason. He is 'the key of everything'. Also, is hard to explain book7 with that theory. A lot of things happens, but all were meanless. Except it makes him forget Valentine's Day. What Haruhi wish, for sure (to make a surprise). This theory is not impossible. But I believe Kyon is only important because Haruhi wants him to be important. She likes Kyon, so she wants him to be awesome. Also, She surelly belive that John Smith have many cool adventures with aliens, time travelers and ESPers (but not sliders). So Kyon have that advantures. PP: I must play it! |
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They go back 3 years into the past, the same time as the where the barrier and time-quake first happened. I'm not seeing anything to say this isn't the cause. If you have any evidence, please present it. I don't see how this is any better than my theory. Especially considering that Kyon states right at the very start how he wants all this to happen, yet would prefer to remain as a side character. Hence Haruhi appearing to be the target for all this. |
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No! Kyon likes Haruhi so much that he feels bad for her when she is bad. Yeah, for sure. |
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