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Depiction of Evil in Japanese Anime
My wife has mentioned several interesting difference of background of evil and how it is handled compared to Western media or even in comparison to Chinese or Korean dramas and mangas. Before I list her observations, I would like to know what you think so I might get to hear your response before it be tainted by whatever I write.
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2009-01-01, 17:14 | Link #2 |
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In western media, people usually have some sort of power against evil. Look at dracula, people were able to kill him using knives to the chest and neck, or night of the living dead, where humans can defeat zombies. You won't see this in oriental evil. More often than not, people are helpless against evils in oriental fiction, look at mononoke or ringu. They do not defeat or kill the evil, but merely appease it.
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How about concepts of evil in society or the 'Raoh' character, a character who does evil to bring about good? This is a concept that is much in vogue in Japanese animation, much more than even nearby Korea or China. Also, I just remembered one of the experts in Korean literature saying that concept of focused spiritual evil entity became popular after introduction of Christian Theology to China and Japan during 16th century.
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I don't think generalities really work here... I mean there are examples of all kinds of personifications/characteristics of evil in, I'm sure, both eastern and western media...
Evil within, evil without, evil above, evil below, no evil at all, evil everywhere... I think it best that you give your(her) take on the differences so we might comment. |
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Another example is how supernatural evil is defeated. In Korea and often in China, supernatural evil being usually hides itself among the human and is often forced to flee when its existence is discovered. In Japanese anime, more often than not, supernatural evil is already known to exist, and is actively be engaged in destruction of society, while in Korean and Chinese folktales, these supernatural evil beings are usually tamed or defeated by social entities like government officials and police. An extreme example is the legend of nine-tailed fox. In one of many Korean version, other than secretly snacking on the liver and hearts of chickens, the girl/fox lives as if desiring a peaceful coexistence among her family member. When confronted about her nightly snack, she first feigns innocence, but is exposed by a traveling monk's charm, which forces her to flee. When given a chase and be pelted by stones thrown by her former family, it is at this moment she swears revenge, one she partly extract before being defeated by another charm from the traveling monk. Compare this to the Nine-tailed Fox legend depicted in Ga-Rei Zero, and I believe you can see a huge difference in many levels.
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And Yes, The devil made us do it became more frequently used excuse after 16th century in Eastern Asia. In fact the concept of devil in Asia is much less refined compared to European philosophy and stories. You don't see something in par with The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis in Asia.
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Darth Vader, insofar as he was acting under the guidance of Emperor Palpatine - or, more to the point, of the Dark Side of The Force - was only interested in ruling the galaxy. Not in doing evil to bring about good. If you want to pull out an example of this behavior from the Star Wars universe, I'd suggest you look up the series of books entitled Legacy of The Force. Nine books in all - there, you'll actually get a character who tries to bring about good through (very) evil acts. Now, as to the point of the topic: I think the concept of evil is actually somewhat universal. The proper categorizations of such concept, however, are prone to localization.
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This is a good question. The answer to this tends to be different from one culture to the other, and may even be different within culture, if it consists of several distinguishable parts. The question I like to ask is what does Japanese animation usually perceive as evil, how they portray it, and perhaps most importantly, how does it evolve as something that seemed evil may evolve into something not, while something that is good may evolve into something that is evil.
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I consider evil, in it's most basic form, to be that which willfully causes destruction and suffering for selfish gain.
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Kraehe on the other hand does get her evil justified through parental abuse and jealousy. Now she is probably a troubling character to you, the show would still be interesting if she was mercilessly killed in episode 13 (It wouldn't be as long admittedly). So why does she get a chance at redemption? In my opinion it's 1) to demonstrate a greater evil (The Raven or more obliquely parental abuse) and 2) to demonstrate that people even things like love can cause evil acts and 3) to demonstrate that redemption can be possible. So I don't think it is a big conspiracy caused by the collective guilt of the Japanese people. It's just interesting. Of course things like Pretty Cure can get away with irredeemable pure evil characters and still be interesting by virtue of humour and the characterization of the protagonists but even then it tends to get over looked by fandom. |
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I'll just throw out something before I go to sleep.
In the west I believe, is said that the good truimphs over evil, mostly comes from teachings of Christianity. In the east, good and evil must exist in a balance, all things have a Ying and Yang. For good to exist, there must be evil and so forth. You don't 'defeat' evil, you put the balance of good and evil back into place.
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"I will commit evil to destroy the greater evil"
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