To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Discussion (Archives)

[Suzuku]

I think Touma and Mikoto's meeting will be while he's getting his ass whooped by Fiamma and will need her to get hurt for him to go crazy and overpower Fiamma. So I don't think he'll get a chance to tell her to go back. It'll be funny when her and Lessar meet though and both end up travelling with Touma in Russia.

[Miraluka]

The preview of the Vol.21 has been translated:

October 30th, after eleven days after the outbreak of World War III.
Three boys, with their secret thoughts, had ran into flames in Russia.
To cure the former ITEM member, Takitsubou Rikou, Hamazura Shiage is searching for a treatment.
The key is his encounter with the God's Right Seat member, the saint Acqua of the Back.
The 'strongest' esper, Accelerator, after a battle with the weakest rival, is being transferred to Elizarina Independent Alliance.
Accelerator still haven't found any lead of a way to save Last Order.
The key is the magic that contains a mysterious parchment.
Kamijo Touma to finally encounter Fiamma, used discretion to escape.
The event where Index returns to full health has not come true.
The key to that is the resident of another dimension who calls itself a 'Angel'
Three different hidden feelings, when when science and the magic cross, the story starts-!

Credits to Lero & The Observer from OneManga.

Edit:
Teh_Ping has translated parts 1-5 of the Chapter 8 of the Vol.10.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...of_a_Night_Sky

Thanks to Teh_Ping.

One can dream, but it would be the hell of fun if Teh Ping and Joay finishes the vol.11 having translateds the posible contents for the 2nd season XD.

[surerman]

Originally Posted by giorno

i also see Mikoto ending up meeting Touma, only for him to tell her to get back to AC ASAP and even tell her she's a burden to try and convice her...and if that fails, he'll knock her out and have someone take her away to safety...

Isn't that what we call a Disaster?

Mikoto will not take Lessar existence so easily if Touma said she's just a Guide or Translator. More like Chaos will ensued, between the Railgun and the Succubus and if Touma didn't use his brain right, bunch of Thunder Cloud will start gathering in the sky above their head

Touma will save with his right hand but Lessar will burn to crisp once one of the Thunderbolt hit her.

[pampz21]

Neh...I've been thinking maybe Touma knows the secret of IB but he has forgotten....or maybe in the past someone or Touma himself seal the IB only to his right hand..so he won't destroy anything???....

[MrTerrorist]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Spoiler for They are..:

...twin sisters.
M.o.V. is the mind controlling France and the one who plotted the attacks towards Englnad(example, the plane hijicking incident), while Elizarina is the leader of... Elizarina(they gave the same name to the independent country, lol).
About their powers I don't know much, the M.o.V. seems to be a warrior too, she has sword(probably obtained from the RCC) called Durandal sword which overwhelmed Knights leader magic defense(Solomon's Forumula) with ease because the spell doesn't works on UK's royalty and she is descendant of one of England' nobles and also moves faster than the speed of the sound.
In the other hand her sister Elizarina, has showed magic based on the right hand(Fiamma laughed at her for being enough foolish to try to use the right hand against Fiamma of the Right).

Thanks for the answers.

Spoiler for BTW:

How long has the MOV been ruling france? It it's long does that mean she & Elizarina are immortal?

[Ashaman]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Edit:
Teh_Ping has translated parts 1-5 of the Chapter 8 of the Vol.10.

Thanks to Teh_Ping.

One can dream, but it would be the hell of fun if Teh Ping and Joay finishes the vol.11 having translateds the posible contents for the 2nd season XD.

Also, 2 more parts of chap 10 of volume 13 have been translated.

Thanks to... whoever is doing vol 13 as well.

Wilfri, you forgot vol 8 needs to be trans too.

[Sixth]

Japan Prime Minister : Knowing that A.C have the latest technology in the world which they refuse to share with anyone and esper who can single-handedly wipe out an army..not one but 1.8 millions esper, I seriously didn't see this coming at all that A.C. going to threaten us and try to take over the Japan and world...

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by noobita

Japan Prime Minister : Knowing that A.C have the latest technology in the world which they refuse to share with anyone and esper who can single-handedly wipe out an army..not one but 1.8 millions esper, I seriously didn't see this coming at all that A.C. going to threaten us and try to take over the Japan and world...

You're a little late you know? It was mention in earlier volumes that Academy city is the leader of half of the world's power, the part under science. Just as how the Vatican is the leader of the other half of the world.

[Miraluka]

Found something about the Precognition:

As with other forms of extrasensory perception, the existence of precognition is not accepted by the scientific community, because no replicable demonstration has been achieved. Scientific investigation of extrasensory perception (ESP) is complicated by the definition which implies that the phenomena go against established principles of science. Specifically, precognition would violate the principle that an effect cannot occur before its cause.
The existence of this phenomenon is widely rejected by the scientific community.
At a mystical level the precognition is associated with a spiritual ability.

If is Touma, I'm sure that the last line fits him the most.

[tsunade666]

what his not esper, his not mage, his just your freaking GAR super HERO ><

But if it's not accepted by science. I' surprise that Accelerator the strongest esper would utter that word.

[Shadow5YA]

Like I said, Kamachi has made errors in his science before.

Also, it's not like sensing brain waves (AIM fields) exists in the real world. The closest form of precognition you could get in the real world is just simple prediction from experience, but even that has errors because of how difficult it is to consistently read human thought.

You could say that with precognition, you could see your enemy's invisible crosshair. It's as if they were broadcasting their attack, like bosses following a set pattern in third person action games. You can't really measure something like that with normal science, but AC has AIM fields.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

what his not esper, his not mage, his just your freaking GAR super HERO ><

But if it's not accepted by science. I' surprise that Accelerator the strongest esper would utter that word.

Well, since the matter about precognition is debatable is not that surprising, also Accelerator althought he is from Academy City he believes in beings like angels and also God in the heavens.

[Suzuku]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

what his not esper, his not mage, his just your freaking GAR super HERO ><

But if it's not accepted by science. I' surprise that Accelerator the strongest esper would utter that word.

I think Touma is a divine being, like Aiwass, Crowley, and the angels. His powers are not magic or scientific, and he surpasses them both.

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Like I said, Kamachi has made errors in his science before.

Also, it's not like sensing brain waves (AIM fields) exists in the real world. The closest form of precognition you could get in the real world is just simple prediction from experience, but even that has errors because of how difficult it is to consistently read human thought.

You could say that with precognition, you could see your enemy's invisible crosshair. It's as if they were broadcasting their attack, like bosses following a set pattern in third person action games. You can't really measure something like that with normal science, but AC has AIM fields.

AIM fields aren't brainwaves though.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Suzuku

I think Touma is a divine being, like Aiwass, Crowley, and the angels. His powers are not magic or scientific, and he surpasses them both.

Crowley is still human though.

[Suzuku]

^ True... but he's obviously not a normal human.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Suzuku

AIM fields aren't brainwaves though.

AIM fields is just the energy field espers produce, but since esper powers stem from the brain, you could still say that AIM fields are indirectly the byproduct of the brain.

[tsunade666]

I doubt his still your average human. Just what like said above ^ I can't classify him as human. Last boss always tends to go insane with 2 or 3 transformation/change before finally beating him.

[Sixth]

What if Touma = Buddha or Asura

Aleister : WTF...the bible didn't tell me anything about this...
Touma : Try Indian or Chinese Sutra...

and suddenly we going to see more "XX" being from certain country come to play.

Magician Vs Monk Vs Esper Vs Angel Vs Mummy VS (Insert other)

[Chaos2Frozen]

Now There's an interesting topic: Where do Pagan Deities stand in this?

We've heard a few of them over the course of the story, Aztecs gods like Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, the god of Venus (the planet), whose 'spear' was replicated, and if my theory is correct, Tecciztecatl the old moon god was reference in the grimoire [Rabbit and Moon]. The famous Norse God of thunder Thor and his various magical items (Hammer, Belt, Iron Gloves) were replicated into [New Light] weapons. Odin, chief God of Norse mythology was mentioned through his Throne, which was somehow related to Aurrelus' magic. The closest mentioning of oriental deities are the four beasts- Seiryu, Suzaku, Byakko, and Genbu. Egyptian gods were also mentioned, but only in name as Thelema has nothing to do with the actual Egyptian religion.

My personal speculation is that Pagan deities aren't exactly 'gods' in the omnipotent sense, more like a powerful magic being... Like a Dragon, or hell, they might just be humans that attain a high level of magical knowledge, just like how some spells aren't base on Angels or Deities, but on actual human beings like Knights and Saints. If I were to be dramatic, I'll suggest that maybe they were kicked out of the planet by the Angels some 2000 years old, as seen in the rise of Abrahamic religions.

[Marcus H.]

I don't think so. Angels can be called as different names in different religions.