Ohran High School Host Club (General Discussion)

[Scribble]

Are the twins actually gay? As the episodes go by, it seems more and more of an act, but I'm still not entirely sure.


On a side note, I wish there were more *normal* female anime characters, like Haruhi.

[mangafanatic]

Originally Posted by Scribble

Are the twins actually gay? As the episodes go by, it seems more and more of an act, but I'm still not entirely sure.

I've considered this myself. Here's my thought-- If they were gay, why would they have set Tamaki up for embarrassment in the school physical episode to get revenge on him for calling them "homo side characters" if they really were gay? Personally, I think it's an act that they've played for so long to 1) annoy people 2) get the girls in an excited panic (Though I can't NOT understand why they get so excited about two attractive guys acting as though they're homosexual. Doesn't that sort of put them out of the running for any possible relationship with any of them?) 3) protect themselves from every having to break into "everyone else world".

Originally Posted by physics223

Can someone tell me where I can obtain that beautiful music piece from 21.45 - 22.00? Was that some modification of the ED?

Eh, listening to it again, I'm of the opinion that it wasn't a variation of either the opening or the ending theme but was, rather, a different song all together. I can't want to get my hands on it when the OST is released. . .

[musouka]

Though I can't NOT understand why they get so excited about two attractive guys acting as though they're homosexual. Doesn't that sort of put them out of the running for any possible relationship with any of them?

Sometimes girls just like to watch, I guess. Might as well ask why guys like to watch shows about lesbians.

Plus, well, I'm sure to their fans, it makes for a nice, symmetrical picture and allows for daydreaming about yourself in the middle of a twin sandwich. After all their relationship is "special", they're not gay for just anyone...

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by mangafanatic

I've considered this myself. Here's my thought-- If they were gay, why would they have set Tamaki up for embarrassment in the school physical episode to get revenge on him for calling them "homo side characters" if they really were gay?

Heh, I'm sure that even gay people would be offended if they were called "homo side characters".

Their behaviour towards Haruhi kind of suggests they're not gay, though.

[Dagger]

Originally Posted by Scribble

Heh, I'm sure that even gay people would be offended if they were called "homo side characters".

Their behaviour towards Haruhi kind of suggests they're not gay, though.

Or else they're just flexible.

Nice avatar, by the way.

[Cal-Reflector]

Originally Posted by musouka

Sometimes girls just like to watch, I guess. Might as well ask why guys like to watch shows about lesbians.

Plus, well, I'm sure to their fans, it makes for a nice, symmetrical picture and allows for daydreaming about yourself in the middle of a twin sandwich. After all their relationship is "special", they're not gay for just anyone...

Bishounen in Yaoi (homosexual, boy-love, slash, etc) relationships is a tremendous sub-branch of shoujo and jousei (young woman) manga that's been around in Japan two to three decades. Some academics have attributed this female affinity for Yaoi romance due to the fact that they feel less pressure/lack-of-self-esteem from the lack of a traditional beautiful-picture-perfect heroine whom they feel threatened by. Yaoi thus removes the stress of having the objects of their affection (bishounen) "stolen" away by a fictional heroine, whom they unconsciously feel a rivalry against and know they can't compete against.

The twins are not gay, they're playing on this cultural stereotype of the pretty boys in a taboo relationship which women across the world may find so tantalizing. For reference, it is conservative to say that some three-quarters of fanfics produced by English speaking authors for Full Metal Alchemist is of yaoi, with Ed-Mustang by far the most popular couple.

Thus, fangirls, love, Yaoi, and the Twins use this to their advantage.

[physics223]

I think they're just pulling it off to play around ... but MAN! that little song between 21.45 and 22.00 was great. I mean ... amazing ...

I'm avidly waiting for the next episode.

[Matrim]

The twins are not gay, they're playing on this cultural stereotype of the pretty boys in a taboo relationship which women across the world may find so tantalizing.

Well, it's true that they like to tease the fangirls but that does not exclude the possibility that they might actually be gay or bisexual.

[Ahiko]

Originally Posted by Cal-Reflector

The twins are not gay, they're playing on this cultural stereotype of the pretty boys in a taboo relationship which women across the world may find so tantalizing.

Thus, fangirls, love, Yaoi, and the Twins use this to their advantage.

Also, from the first episode and in the Manga, Tamaki even says that each of the members use their traits to their advantage to raise the popularity of the club.

Their "homo homo" act is very convincing though.

This anime being my first taste of shounen-ai/yaoi, I'm always at the edge of my seat when Hikaru and Kaoru get into the "homo homo" phase, ehhehe

[Wind_Rider]

Originally Posted by Ahiko

Also, from the first episode and in the Manga, Tamaki even says that each of the members use their traits to their advantage to raise the popularity of the club.

Their "homo homo" act is very convincing though.

This anime being my first taste of shounen-ai/yaoi, I'm always at the edge of my seat when Hikaru and Kaoru get into the "homo homo" phase, ehhehe

My first taste of Bl also. (Excluding crack induced fanwork.) Hikaru/Kaoru would be one of my favorite pairings in the show if they weren't brothers.

I got the impression that they weren't homosexual from the result of Tamaki's "homo side characters" quote, but they may have just been offended by the way he said it. *shrug* They also say it's a good way to infatuate the girls, like it's only an act. It is a very convincing act!

Spoiler for for ep 4:

I love the part in ep. 4 when the twins were complaing about the switch in their characters. "Why is Kaoru the seme?" I was thinking the same thing during the basketball scene.

[tritoch]

Actually if i am applauding Haruhi, it's because she's not swept off her feet with all the bishonen around her! hahaha

[MrProphet]

I think the Hitaiichins were more pissed off at the "side character" remark, than the "homo" part. 8)

Nobody likes being written off as unimportant. And since the show keeps breaking the fourth wall over and over again, I wouldn''t be surprised if that was the reason for their ingination, rather that the a snipe at their alledged sexuality. 8)

[Wind_Rider]

Originally Posted by MrProphet

I think the Hitaiichins were more pissed off at the "side character" remark, than the "homo" part. 8)

Nobody likes being written off as unimportant. And since the show keeps breaking the fourth wall over and over again, I wouldn''t be surprised if that was the reason for their ingination, rather that the a snipe at their alledged sexuality. 8)

I didn't even think of that....makes sense.

Haha..the twins get plenty of love, so no need for them to worry about being side characters just yet.

This show seems to have a very thin fourth wall.

[Tashigi]

Originally Posted by Ahiko

RE: Kashigi, So Hikaru likes Haruhi??! but what about Kaoru? :/

Kaoru always seems to stand to Hikaru's right (from everytime Haruhi pointed them out), and while they were fighting the first time, Kaoru did point out that Hikaru liked Haruhi, but Kaoru seemed really mad about it. Your post makes sense!! x_x I'm guessing Kaoru was a little annoyed at Hikaru's attention toward Haruhi.

Although.. I loved when Kaoru called Hikaru when he[Kaoru] was the one sneaking into Hikaru's bed. xD teeheehee *fangirl mode* kyaaaaaa~~ ;DD!!

Spoiler:

Hikaru likes Haruhi... While talking about ep 5 with a friend, she also mentioned that there is more of this in the manga.

Even before that, I guess it's kind of obvious if you read the raws, but since I don't know japanese, I didn't want to "conclude" from the images that Hikaru does like Haruhi, but since my friend is japanese and she's the one who told me about more hints in the manga about this pairing, then my thoughts about them were confirmed.

I don't think Kaoru likes Haruhi, though. And I don't think he was mad about it either... if you were referring to the time they started fighting, he sounded mad when he said it because Hikaru just said he [Kaoru] was more evil because he hides his thoughts, so he retaliated by sayin Hikaru likes Haruhi... o_oa... And if you were referring to the ending, I don't think he's mad then too... I think generally, Kaoru adopts a more... "brother/sister" feel towards Haruhi later on in the manga.. o_oaaa

XDDD But yeah, these are just my thoughts/speculations based on the feelings I get when I read/watch the manga/anime. XDDDD;;;

[^Aya^]

Mh i dont think they're actually truly gay O_o
Imho it's more like "playing their role" in the host club. They're just extremely emphasizing the fact that they are twins.. So deeply in love and attached to each other that girls can wonder if they're actually in that kind of "relationship"
Well i'm a girl but i dont like yaoi at all I like to identify with the heroine, i cant identify with a man no matter how "girlish" he acts/he is rotfl

Spoiler for episode 5:

The last part of the episode was really beautiful. The music was perfect! When Kaoru looked at Hikaru (who was still staring at Haruhi) with a kind of "realising something and accepting it" feeling for his brother.. it was very touching

Cant wait for episode 6 now!
Go tamaki! Show her your true nature and get the princess

[NoSanninWa]

Originally Posted by ^Aya^

Cant wait for episode 6 now!
Go tamaki! Show her your true nature and get the princess

But what if his true nature is shallow?

[physics223]

I don't really think so ...

Go GET HARUHI! GET HER, YOU PRINCE!

[Erroll]

I think this may be one of the few shows where I don't care who ends up with who. It seems to focus more on how the characters interact and change each other. Whoever Haruhi ends up with, she has a good chance at a meaningful relationship with any of them. Except maybe Honey. I know he's actually older than she is but I don't think she'd be able to get pass the shota look.

As for ep. 5. I loved it, loved it, looooved it! This is my favorite chapter so far of the manga and I was worried they wouldn't be able to make it as good as the manga did. I shouldn't have worried as they've managed to improve on all the manga chapters so far. This one was no exception. The twins were so evil! They showed in this episode why they got the 'ko akuma' (little devils) title. All that drama. Just cause they were bored. I can't wait to see the episode where they go to Haruhi's house.

[physics223]

I couldn't help but replay the final scene (the one with the subtle guitar-ish) accompaniment, because it simply was perfect. Perfectly beautiful, in all the splendor of clarity.

[^Aya^]

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

But what if his true nature is shallow?

He have showed just a little of his true potential
I believe (and hope ROTFL! ) he is much more mature than how he appears outside (the same way i believe Hikaru and Kaoru are not truly in an homosexual relationship )

Well if his true nature is shallow.. well.. there are still the others (Or she can commit suicide.. rotfl i'm just kidding )