Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon - Episode 12 Discussion / Poll

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[Xellos-_^]

lots of talking this episode.

highlights
- Fuytao got up and after a flashback and some screaming kick mushiege's ass.
- a embarrass Nate as Toori talks about groping Nate
- Suzu fainting onto Kimi
- Toori accidentally struck his hand across the "regret barrier" and gropes Horizon
- Toori and Horizon manage to solve their regret issues. Barrier no use against them

Preview for next ep rocks as we see shadows of the other Dragon King (at least i think that is who they are).

[Nvis]

Excellent episode. 10/10 (haven't even seen it yet, just caps)

[Chaos2Frozen]

Clearly I don't have a firm understanding of a 'parallel argument' so I'm not sure what's going on behind the words spoken @_@ so for now I'll just said this:

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

- Suzu fainting onto Kimi

"Hmmm Suzu, hora ero cushion yo !"

I'm surprised that Asama said the same thing later as well

[Kunagisa]

Spoiler for 12:

Beautiful. There's absolutely nothing else that needs to be said.

I'm so glad to be a fan of this series right now.

[Einst]

Kinda curious what kind of face the pope will show after seeing toori and horizon overcame the disintegration barrier

[Yushi]

...Toori, you are the most non-gar looking GAR ever. T^T With that :3 face no less! So glad I didn't give up on this series.

[tsunade666]

10/10 even if the whole second part was a darn long argument between those two plus at first Toori was rejected lol but indeed it's a nice bgm that helps tremendously and a good set of seiyuu for the best atmosphere. I also like the flashback thing though not sure but the event when they show the young Toori and Horizon with Toori reaching out his hands towards Horizon to take her and I don't have clue about the corroding black thing but maybe a curse or something <.<

Even if the first part had an awesome fight between Futayo and Munegshige. I still like the second part more with the ending of the two embracing each other.

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by Yushi

So glad I didn't give up on this series.

I heard so many people say this starting episode 9, and my responses are always I'm so glad you didn't give up either .

Some responses to this episode from elsewhere:

• I waited 3 months for this confession and it is definitely the most heartfelt confession of this season.
• （-__-） <-- Horizon so moe.
• Longest confession scene ever.
• Most difficult confession scene ever.
• I have no idea wtf they are talking about, but I'm raining tears cause of the BGM.
• Toori, make sure Horizon stays happy forever or I'll hunt you down (even though I have no idea if Horizon's happy or not wwwww).
• Toori is the worst and the best.
• YESSS finally Futayo went nuts. Normal Kobayashi Yuu characters are not good Kobayashi Yuu character.
• FukuJun is aweeeeeeeessssssssssooooooooommmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeee.
• This story's title is so bloody clever.
• SEASON 2 WHERE.
• wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

You guys get the idea (Ő‿Ő✿)

[helspectre]

Originally Posted by Einst

Kinda curious what kind of face the pope will show after seeing toori and horizon overcame the disintegration barrier

That, and the last few scenes in the preview O_O

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by stuopidget

[*]Longest confession scene ever.
[*]Most difficult confession scene ever.

You know thats right (=_=);

Originally Posted by stuopidget

[*]Toori, make sure Horizon stays happy forever or I'll hunt you down (even though I have no idea if Horizon's happy or not wwwww).
[*]Toori is the worst and the best.

I'll be sorely disappointed if this means that end of Toori's perverted antics and that the other girls in his class are now safe from his hands

Originally Posted by stuopidget

[*]This story's title is so bloody clever.

Ehh? You mean it actually means something?!

[jeroz]

as much as I find regret being the most beautiful emotion, I have the utmost respect for the ones that can overcome their regret and put a smile on their face.

Seriously, Toori has the potential to be as awesome as Hououin Kyouma, and being my favourite male character this year.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by jeroz

as much as I find regret being the most beautiful emotion, I have the utmost respect for the ones that can overcome their regret and put a smile on their face.

Toori trying to peak at loli Horizon's pantsu... Well it's one way I guess...

[jeroz]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Toori trying to peak at loli Horizon's pantsu... Well it's one way I guess...

no regrets after seeing a loli's pantsu?

I'm sure a lot of people can understand that feeling

[monir]

I've finally caught up to this show and I've to say this is the 2nd best show for me from this season, right behind Ben-To. Episode 12 was superb!

[Suiri Megami Alice]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Ehh? You mean it actually means something?!

Quoting Doraneko's post in kyoukaisenjou no horizon thread in baka-tsuki.

Originally Posted by Doraneko

As for the discussion on "where parallels intersect", in general parallel lines represent conflicting views sharing no middle ground (ref: Vol 1b).

If we draw two perfectly parallel lines on a sheet of paper, theoretically they can never meet (at least not until infinity). But if you change your perspective a bit, hold the paper sideways and look at it at your eye level, you will only see one single line - the boundary (Kyoukaisen/境界線) - and it is "where parallels intersect".

In other words, instead of busy pushing the other side to adhere to your views, why not pull yourself out of the debate and try to look at the whole issue from a different perspective. Sometimes the so-called conflicting views are not really that far apart.

In the episode, Toori and Horizon admitted they are on parallel to each other. But horizon said there is a place where they can agree with each other.
Where is that? At the place where parallels intersect--- above the horizon line (kyoukaisenjou/境界線上).

Besides the horizon line (where they zoomed out the view to show the horizon), I also see that disintegration barrier as a boundary line separating the two. And it is within that disintegration barrier itself where they reached their "kyoukaisenjou".

--- How to abuse parallel argument:
Toori: Horizon. You don't want to go above the horizon line, right?
Horizon: No, I want to.
Toori: You don't want me to take you there, right?
Horizon: No, please take me there.
Toori: I'm a guy who can't do anything.
Horizon: No, I believe you can do everything.
Toori: You won't let me touch your boobs after this, right?
Horizon: Hah? What are you talking about?

Loled at Toori trying to sneak a clever one in the midst of parallel discussion.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Ahhh when you put it that way, it does seem very thoughtful.

[jeroz]

this writer has a lot of clever tricks in this book, which makes watching/reading so fun.

[Aoi Toori]

Originally Posted by stuopidget

Beautiful. There's absolutely nothing else that needs to be said.

I'm so glad to be a fan of this series right now.

ah yes, that's the word I've been searching to describe this episode! it's a beautiful ep indeed.


highlight of this ep:
wtf futayo
futayo and muneshige speed fight
toori's magnificent speech (even though I can't understand much it's still great. great job fuku-jun!)
the confession finally... and the heart-warming conversation after that and toori wtf are you saying it's not the right time for asking that
the accident flashback and how's toori and horizon coping with their regret over it
(even though I sound like a crazy fangirl I have to say "Daaaawwwww~~" to the hug scene )

[heartfull]

I know a lot of people are saying this, but I'm so glad I kept watching this show! It's one of my favorites along with Fate/Zero and I keep looking forward to each new episode! And it keeps on delivering awesomeness, GARness, and heartwarmingness.
Those scenes at the very end, the flashback and Toori and Horizon hugging...Probably one of my favorite scenes thus far.
Now if only I knew what they were saying in the flashback