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El_Lazy_Mexican · 2008-10-13, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Revolutionist

I bet Billy must feel like a dumbass, he was the one who leaked info to Sumeragi which cost a lot of pilots their lives because Celestial Being got a hold of the strategies being employed against the Gundams, and he told Sumeragi that Professor Leif Aiffman was getting close to discovering the propulsion system used by the Gundams. Obviously we know Sumeragi had nothing to do with the professors murder, but as far as Billy is concerned she planned it all as CB's tactician, and he was the one who told her Aiffman was getting close.

Yea. I think that by the way things look, Billy is going to crack later and going to be just nasty.

Jesus how many pairings have a high chance of being disastrous this season?

Saji/Louise, Summeragi/Billy, Allelujah/Soma, Lyle/Feldt?

This season has scary romance popping up here and there.

Yu Ominae · 2008-10-13, 21:30

Someone oughta write a fic on Graham/Gundam. XP

Mangaka-chan · 2008-10-13, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Yu Ominae

Someone oughta write a fic on Graham/Gundam. XP

I think there are Japanese doujinshis for that pairing(?

) already.

Yu Ominae · 2008-10-13, 21:41

Whoa!

El_Lazy_Mexican · 2008-10-13, 21:53

One thing I was confused about, is if 00 Gundam is permanently in Trans-AM/has to activate Trans-AM to turn on or can it still turn on?

rebel one · 2008-10-13, 22:00

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Originally Posted by El_Lazy_Mexican

One thing I was confused about, is if 00 Gundam is permanently in Trans-AM/has to activate Trans-AM to turn on or can it still turn on?

00 has a really long time lag and Trans-Am was used to speed it up. Trans-Am turned off after 00 fully started. Ian already said that if 00's Trans-Am was used it would overload.

If you do the math 00's Trans-Am would make more than 12x stronger than Exia.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2008-10-13, 22:01

A better question is can A-Laws and the Federation bring anything up against the 00?

El_Lazy_Mexican · 2008-10-13, 22:08

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

A better question is can A-Laws and the Federation bring anything up against the 00?

Graham Char Aker and his Graham love special?

Freya · 2008-10-13, 22:08

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

A better question is can A-Laws and the Federation bring anything up against the 00?

Eh....due to plot, they somehow will.

golthin · 2008-10-13, 22:09

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Originally Posted by rebel one

00 has a really long time lag and Trans-Am was used to speed it up. Trans-Am turned off after 00 fully started. Ian already said that if 00's Trans-Am was used it would overload.

If you do the math 00's Trans-Am would make more than 12x stronger than Exia.

ah, you mean 12x stronger when it was in trans-am mode? the math that people are using is so faulty. It has already been said that 00 is already Exia^2 or 0 gundam ^2 stronger than either of the gundams. Now I invite you to show us what math brings you to the 12X number.

El_Lazy_Mexican · 2008-10-13, 22:16

Everyones math revolving a GN drive is faulty because a GN drive doesn't exist!

But yea, 00 Gundam's power output = Exia + 0 Gundam (or Total Sum of the output of 2 Gundam units) and possible times 3 because of Trans-AM (since we have no clue if 00 Gundam is already auto-Trans-AM'd or it can activate it)

Thats all we know, and all we care about at the moment.

Duo Maxwell · 2008-10-13, 22:28

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Originally Posted by El_Lazy_Mexican

But yea, 00 Gundam's power output = Exia + 0 Gundam (or Total Sum of the output of 2 Gundam units) and possible times 3 because of Trans-AM (since we have no clue if 00 Gundam is already auto-Trans-AM'd or it can activate it)

x3 because it's red?

Remember, 00 Gundam's power = Exia + 0 Gundam + Setsuna.

Dark Wing · 2008-10-13, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Revolutionist

I bet Billy must feel like a dumbass, he was the one who leaked info to Sumeragi which cost a lot of pilots their lives because Celestial Being got a hold of the strategies being employed against the Gundams, and he told Sumeragi that Professor Leif Aiffman was getting close to discovering the propulsion system used by the Gundams. Obviously we know Sumeragi had nothing to do with the professors murder, but as far as Billy is concerned she planned it all as CB's tactician, and he was the one who told her Aiffman was getting close.

That brings up another interesting point. Seems like Sumeragi was always a drunk, because it was the only way she was able to stomach all the crap she had to do and put up with...

El_Lazy_Mexican · 2008-10-13, 22:40

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

x3 because it's red?

Remember, 00 Gundam's power = Exia + 0 Gundam + Setsuna.

OREGA GUNDAM!!

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Originally Posted by Dark Wing

That brings up another interesting point. Seems like Sumeragi was always a drunk, because it was the only way she was able to stomach all the crap she had to do and put up with...

Now Billy will learn the taste of drinking away ones problem only to bitch about them before bed.

rebel one · 2008-10-13, 22:46

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Originally Posted by golthin

ah, you mean 12x stronger when it was in trans-am mode? the math that people are using is so faulty. It has already been said that 00 is already Exia^2 or 0 gundam ^2 stronger than either of the gundams. Now I invite you to show us what math brings you to the 12X number.

I was talking about Trans-Am 00 compared to regular Exia but I just got 12 off the top of my head. If I really tried then it would be something like this(62 is one drive's output)

-If the TDS squares only 1 drive then (62^2) = 3844(Trans-Am is 11532)
-If the TDS squares the sum of both drives' output(124^2) = 15376(Trans-Am is 46128)

This is along the lines of Super Robot

but take it with a grain of salt.

Forgot to say that these numbers were taken from when 00 was only at 87%

LightningZERO · 2008-10-13, 22:49

That's why 00 Gundam is said to be able 'to break all common sense' when completed, according to the model kit

Kelrys · 2008-10-13, 23:05

Louise would be dead too if she was launch in the operation.

Demongod86 · 2008-10-13, 23:35

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Originally Posted by duotiga

i cant imagine what is it like if trans-am is fully operational for 00 gundam

I can. Worse than Wing Zero or Strike Freedom or Inf Justice. In fact, worse than regular Freedom and Justice.

Exia was weaksauce. 00 isn't weaksauce, but it's not the badass (or beautiful--take your pick depending on TV or EW version) destruction that is the Wing Zero, or the godmoding to end all godmodes that is the SF which destroys literally everything from other gundams to entire fortresses without even a scratch. TransAm or no, G00 will NOT be the next "gundam to end all gundams".

Cinocard · 2008-10-13, 23:45

Certainly greenhouse can't be compared to nuclear plant. In term of mass destruction Gundam 00 isn't worth mentioned. But in this show mech seems to have the easiest and smoothest function ever, so you never know if it gets into close combat.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2008-10-14, 00:28

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Originally Posted by El_Lazy_Mexican

Graham Char Aker and his Graham love special?

All setsuna would need is to go to court and get a restraining order against Graham, dictating that he cannot come anywhere within 2 km of a gundam.

That guy's behaviour is just not normal.

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2008-10-13, 21:53	Link #505
El_Lazy_Mexican Thank you for smoking Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In your house jumping the fence	One thing I was confused about, is if 00 Gundam is permanently in Trans-AM/has to activate Trans-AM to turn on or can it still turn on?

2008-10-13, 22:01	Link #507
SoldierOfDarkness The Dark Knight Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think? Age: 38	A better question is can A-Laws and the Federation bring anything up against the 00?

2008-10-13, 22:16	Link #511
El_Lazy_Mexican Thank you for smoking Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In your house jumping the fence	Everyones math revolving a GN drive is faulty because a GN drive doesn't exist! But yea, 00 Gundam's power output = Exia + 0 Gundam (or Total Sum of the output of 2 Gundam units) and possible times 3 because of Trans-AM (since we have no clue if 00 Gundam is already auto-Trans-AM'd or it can activate it) Thats all we know, and all we care about at the moment.

2008-10-13, 23:05	Link #517
Kelrys Same old same Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: HRL Age: 37	Louise would be dead too if she was launch in the operation.

2008-10-13, 23:45	Link #519
Cinocard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Certainly greenhouse can't be compared to nuclear plant. In term of mass destruction Gundam 00 isn't worth mentioned. But in this show mech seems to have the easiest and smoothest function ever, so you never know if it gets into close combat.