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View Poll Results: Madoka Magica - Episode 07 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 58 | 41.13% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 47 | 33.33% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 23 | 16.31% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 6.38% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 2.13% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.71% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-02-22, 14:57 | Link #641 | |||
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"Levels of stress in the family have also been shown to correlate with economic circumstances. Studies during economic recessions indicate that job loss and subsequent poverty are associated with violence in families, including child and elder abuse. Poor families experience much more stress than middle-class families. Besides financial uncertainty, these families are more likely to be exposed to series of negative events and “bad luck,” including illness, depression, eviction, job loss, criminal victimization, and family death. Parents who experience hard economic times may become excessively punitive and erratic, issuing demands backed by insults, threats, and corporal punishment." Oh yeah, sounds so much better than what happened. I actually view Kyoko as being in a no-win scenario, almost similar to Sayaka. The only difference being Kyoko was screwed no matter what happened(well, almost, if she had just kept her mouth shut...), while Sayaka does still have a chance to claim some happiness... if she gets over her own issues. Quote:
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2011-02-22, 15:12 | Link #644 | |
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Although, if it is possible that Mami and Kyoko knew each other, I suppose Mami could have found out and told the father, possibly not quite pleased at what Kyoko had wished for. Still, Kyoko would have had to tell Mami. |
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2011-02-22, 15:21 | Link #645 |
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True but no one could've known that the oh-so-kind father would've reacted that way and that the ah-so-pure-and-faithful-daughter actually was "good" enough to lie / hide things from her dad especially when confronted. That said, it was still a mistake, sadly. And I still think even if she kept quiet, the dad still accused Kyouko of being a witch and was eventually able to put the pieces together himself. Hoh~ but yeah that's a silly "if xxx happened" speculation on my subjective part.
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2011-02-22, 15:29 | Link #646 | |
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2011-02-22, 16:20 | Link #647 | |||
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In my previous posts, I already outlined to you that if the statistics of suicide rate is abnormally high, the society would take notice. Since that isn't the case, we have either two scenarios: 1. There aren't too many witches around and thus the casualty from their actions isn't high enough to cause abnormal suicide rates. 2. There are many witches around but there are also many MGs to deal with them - resulting in a low net loss rate to be low. In either case, the ratio of number of MGs to witches are fairly low. Hence I raise the question that is the MG system really serving the greater good? Does sacrificing 1000 young girls justify saving 10000 others? It's all a matter of degree and we disagree on what that degree is, which has relevance on how we evaluate QB.
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2011-02-22, 16:44 | Link #648 | ||
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His point remains valid: none of the other MG's were ever told everything about what they were getting into. Sakura didn't know about the testing trial until it actually happened; so Keroberos is evil for withholding that information. Yuuno didn't tell Nanoha that other mages might come into play; therefore he was evil for withholding that information. Luna didn't tell Usagi at the start she would have to face a nasty evil that killed her mom in a previous life; therefore Luna wa evil in withholding that information. Quote:
Are there really more than several thousand MG's dying in Japan, such that it would be easier to just let witches do their thing? Given Kyube's contracting rate, he'd be out of MG's in less than a day. Since we've only had one MG die out of 4 (and possibly 5), that let's us know that an MG dying isn't a normal everyday thing. Kyoko alone took out several easily. And by the way, suicides in Japan are actually abnormally high, and climbing. This is the 12th straight year they've been over 30,000. How many people over 30,000 do you think it would take for society to really take notice? Another 5,000? 10,000? Apparently you believe that if another 5,000 people die by suicide in a year, it's not a big deal, because society wouldn't take notice anyway. |
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2011-02-22, 16:59 | Link #650 | ||
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2011-02-22, 17:10 | Link #652 | |
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So yes, I full acknowledge that. We go could smaller, but we'd still be left with a thousand per year, maybe a few hundred per year. Still too big, in my opinion. Edit: It could be as high as 50%, too. How often do we hear, "I never imagined he'd kill himself! He seemed like he had so much to live for." |
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2011-02-22, 17:11 | Link #653 | ||||
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2011-02-22, 17:18 | Link #654 | |||
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2011-02-22, 17:24 | Link #655 | |
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If not then I'd attribute it to bad writing. Urobuchi Gen has a track record for making characters suddenly do stupid things for unconvincing reasons.
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2011-02-22, 17:33 | Link #656 | |
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Kyoko's wish brought people in, which would have helped stave off the madness consuming him, and perhaps brought him hope again. But then it was revealed to all be a lie when he found out that it was not due to him or his beliefs at all, but someone else compelling people to come. In short, he was beginning to feel he was a huge failure, and just when he had some hope, it was revealed to be not because of him or his beliefs at all. *snap* It was the earlier harsh times that set him up, and Kyoko's wish just forestalled it. |
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2011-02-22, 17:37 | Link #657 | |
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2011-02-22, 17:40 | Link #658 | ||
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2011-02-22, 17:45 | Link #659 | |
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So if Mami can go back in time to talk to herself who is 2 minutes of dying, will she tell her not to take Kyube's wish and choose death?
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2011-02-22, 17:48 | Link #660 | ||
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I just wanted to be sure that we were on the same page about your use of the 2% number
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