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Crontica · 2011-03-11, 15:02

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Originally Posted by Hagoshod

ohshi-

I just realized this means Mami and Kyoko came up with same solution, just at different times and in radically different ways.

Welcome, episode 0 (Ep 1 to 9 clues) gave me the same reaction. AND THERES MOAR!

Decagon · 2011-03-11, 15:06

I thought Mami was thinking alright. She had the wherewithall to tie up Homura, preventing Homura from using her time stop to escape or resist, before she killed Kyoko. I agree with her feeling guilty about what she may have done to encourage the MG image.

Archon_Wing · 2011-03-11, 15:12

Mami never had a choice or not to become a MG or not; she had figured out that doing this was better than dying. While that illusion was shattered, she just gave up, because it turned out to be even worse and she had encouraged others to do it. The only way to atone was to put others out of their misery now.

ChronoReverse · 2011-03-11, 15:29

She definitely broke there. What she did wasn't right but it certainly was understandable and has its logic.

Archon_Wing · 2011-03-11, 15:32

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Originally Posted by ChronoReverse

She definitely broke there. What she did wasn't right but it certainly was understandable and has its logic.

Yep, I would never justify any decision that causes you to decide whether others live or die without their consent. But it is logical given her character and background.

BaKaBaKaOtaKu · 2011-03-11, 19:26

mami is still hawt after all this time. gahh!! i was just glad i got to see her again. XDD

Airrider · 2011-03-11, 21:47

Same here, although seeing her again in a blind panic was akin to seeing a friend I hadn't met in years only to find that said friend is swinging a pickaxe at me.

Taufiq91 · 2011-03-12, 21:44

Mami's breakdown makes a lot of sense.

"You mean, being a magical girl is nothing more than a pyramid scheme that turns us into witches? OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!!!!"

But seeing her in breakdown makes me want to hug her and comfort her.

Triple_R · 2011-03-12, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Taufiq91

Mami's breakdown makes a lot of sense.

It certainly makes sense for her to become horrified and think that all of the magical girls should die instead of turning into witches.

However... Walpurgis Night still needs to be dealt with. That's why Madoka is the one who made the right choice in this instance.

novalysis · 2011-03-13, 01:46

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

It certainly makes sense for her to become horrified and think that all of the magical girls should die instead of turning into witches.

However... Walpurgis Night still needs to be dealt with. That's why Madoka is the one who made the right choice in this instance.

We must keep in mind that Mami Tomoe , no matter how she might appear externally , is likely an extremely weary Puella Magi, given the ideals she clung on to . Kyoko's world view probably made it easier for her to deal with the reality of Puella-Magi hood- and even then , she essentially chose the same choice as Mami Tomoe, only in a different manner.

Misaka of Misaka · 2011-03-13, 02:01

I am surprised to see Mami-san being upset and killing Kyoko when she realized the truth.
I believed she was the mentally toughest Puella Magi.

What will she do after killing Kyoko, Sayaka, Madoka and Homura?
I suspect she don't have the courage to commit suicide.

Jimmy C · 2011-03-13, 04:00

Either she would, or she'd fight until she died or became a witch, like Sayaka.

FlavorOfLife · 2011-03-13, 04:15

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Originally Posted by Jimmy C

or she'd fight until she died

Which would not take long at all looking a her track record

Cosmic Eagle · 2011-03-13, 04:55

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Originally Posted by Misaka of Misaka

I am surprised to see Mami-san being upset and killing Kyoko when she realized the truth.
I believed she was the mentally toughest Puella Magi.

Nah....the mentally strongest ones would have to be Homura and Kyouko....

Mami was clearly the most fragile from the very start.

novalysis · 2011-03-13, 08:24

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Nah....the mentally strongest ones would have to be Homura and Kyouko....

Mami was clearly the most fragile from the very start.

I think Sayaka beats her in that department....

And I am of the opinion that Kyouko's mentally stronger than Homura. Homura was ready to give up at the third time-line, and definitely broke by the fourth.

Cosmic Eagle · 2011-03-13, 08:42

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Originally Posted by novalysis

I think Sayaka beats her in that department....

And I am of the opinion that Kyouko's mentally stronger than Homura. Homura was ready to give up at the third time-line, and definitely broke by the fourth.

Nope....Sayaka has something to hold on to at least....she lasted for a while...

Jimmy C · 2011-03-13, 10:21

Sayaka lasted barely a week as an MG:

Day 1: Contracted, killed Kristen
Day 2: Fought Kyoko
Day 3: Kyoko, round 2, Soul Gem revelation
Day 4: Moped around at home, pep talk by Kyoko.
Day 5: Hitomi ultimatum. Breaks down and goes nuts on Elsa Maria, blows off Madoka
Day 6: Sees Hitomi with Kyosuke, takes out frustration on familiars, Soul Gem goes critical, shatters, Oktavia is born, Sayaka is dead.
Day 7: Oktavia killed by Kyoko's suicide attack.

Cream · 2011-03-13, 17:26

I loved seeing Mami again, as im a big fan.
But, totally not a fan of how they portrayed her in the scene where she dies by madoka.
I mean, maybe i was the only one but in the beginning i thought mami and modaka were going to be as close as homura was to modaka in episode 10.
~Not sure if you guys get my comparison~

Misaka of Misaka · 2011-03-14, 07:40

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Originally Posted by Cream

I mean, maybe i was the only one but in the beginning i thought mami and modaka were going to be as close as homura was to modaka in episode 10.

I believe Mami-san is closer to Madoka than Homura in every timeline.

Certainly Madoka killed Mami-san with her shot, but she did so to relieve both Mami-san and Homura.
This was the only way to release her from her anguish.

Shadow5YA · 2011-03-14, 07:48

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

It certainly makes sense for her to become horrified and think that all of the magical girls should die instead of turning into witches.

However... Walpurgis Night still needs to be dealt with. That's why Madoka is the one who made the right choice in this instance.

Walpurgis Night isn't completely the correct choice when the Witch that emerges as a result is possibly much worse than Walpurgis Night itself.

It would make sense for all the girls to put their feelings aside and place Walpurgis Night as the highest priority if Puella Magi were heroines as Mami thought. However, it turns out that they never had a duty to help others, so they have no responsibility to deal with Walpurgis Night when it will result in them becoming a Witch or dying every time.

2011-03-11, 19:26	Link #106
BaKaBaKaOtaKu Stupidity is Bliss. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In Hancock's Heart	mami is still hawt after all this time. gahh!! i was just glad i got to see her again. XDD __________________ Faberry Quinn and Rachel

2011-03-11, 21:47	Link #107
Airrider Brum! Brum! BRRRM! VRRM! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Around here somewhere.	Same here, although seeing her again in a blind panic was akin to seeing a friend I hadn't met in years only to find that said friend is swinging a pickaxe at me. __________________ Put your helmet on, we'll be reaching speeds of THREE!

2011-03-12, 21:44	Link #108
Taufiq91 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010	Mami's breakdown makes a lot of sense. "You mean, being a magical girl is nothing more than a pyramid scheme that turns us into witches? OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!!!!" But seeing her in breakdown makes me want to hug her and comfort her. __________________ http://animemix.tumblr.com/

2011-03-13, 02:01	Link #111
Misaka of Misaka Satorina Fan Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Tokyo	I am surprised to see Mami-san being upset and killing Kyoko when she realized the truth. I believed she was the mentally toughest Puella Magi. What will she do after killing Kyoko, Sayaka, Madoka and Homura? I suspect she don't have the courage to commit suicide. __________________ The greatest gift is the opportunity to right one's wrongs.

2011-03-11, 15:06	Link #102
Decagon This was meaningless Scanlator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Not on this site no more. Age: 36	I thought Mami was thinking alright. She had the wherewithall to tie up Homura, preventing Homura from using her time stop to escape or resist, before she killed Kyoko. I agree with her feeling guilty about what she may have done to encourage the MG image.

2011-03-11, 15:29	Link #104
ChronoReverse Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	She definitely broke there. What she did wasn't right but it certainly was understandable and has its logic.

2011-03-13, 04:00	Link #112
Jimmy C Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	Either she would, or she'd fight until she died or became a witch, like Sayaka.

2011-03-13, 10:21	Link #117
Jimmy C Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	Sayaka lasted barely a week as an MG: Day 1: Contracted, killed Kristen Day 2: Fought Kyoko Day 3: Kyoko, round 2, Soul Gem revelation Day 4: Moped around at home, pep talk by Kyoko. Day 5: Hitomi ultimatum. Breaks down and goes nuts on Elsa Maria, blows off Madoka Day 6: Sees Hitomi with Kyosuke, takes out frustration on familiars, Soul Gem goes critical, shatters, Oktavia is born, Sayaka is dead. Day 7: Oktavia killed by Kyoko's suicide attack.

2011-03-13, 17:26	Link #118
Cream Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Connecticut	I loved seeing Mami again, as im a big fan. But, totally not a fan of how they portrayed her in the scene where she dies by madoka. I mean, maybe i was the only one but in the beginning i thought mami and modaka were going to be as close as homura was to modaka in episode 10. ~Not sure if you guys get my comparison~