2013-03-31, 19:12 | Link #2342 |
Hen-Tie
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Let me guess, is it the fandom?
This one is personal but Hetalia had one of the worst fandom of all time. They flooded deviantArt, livejournal and tumblr with their badly-drawn Hetalia fanarts. They are even worse than most devoted Narutard. While I have no intention to be sexist but it is pretty obvious that most of its fans are 13-15 years old girls who just wanted to see their favorite bishies than anything else, not history or jokes. Thanks to them what supposed to be an interesting satirical approach to WW2 now degenerates into K-On! with men and many times less music. Another anime that I don't like but extremely popular at least to English-speaking anime fans is Mirai Nikki. While I'm not calling it as "piece of shit" or anything like that but I have no idea what the main appeal of that show except its controversies. I don't to argue on who's the target audiences of this show are but from what I can see most of them are horror and yandere fans. How it is rated high on most anime review sites is beyond me. |
2013-03-31, 22:02 | Link #2343 | |
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2013-03-31, 22:24 | Link #2344 |
Some say I'm the Reverse
Join Date: Jul 2006
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What I'm finding lately is that I don't really hate the anime. It's usually the fans I hate. People who call themselves your friends (I sure as heck don't recall befriending smelly blokes in singlets with One Piece tattoos) just because I watch anime. A large number of fans think that if you watch -an- anime, you're an Anime Otaku, thus you HAVE to be a raving at the mouth fan of whatever they watch. Ur Examples being Naruto, Bleach, etc--I don't like the anime but I don't hate it per se.
But the fans that go: "How can you call yourself an Otaku when you don't watch Bleach/DBZ/Naruto/One Piece..." Those are the ones that drive me berserk. - First: I don't like being called an Otaku. I just like Anime. - Second: I don't have to like something just because it's popular. - Third: When I like something that's NOT mainstream, that does not make me a twit. - Fourth: Going to threads about anime you don't like or even know, then posting about "Oh, so-and-so character should be run over by a bus because they're not as cool as my favorite character from..." (no, seriously. Those posts should be deleted more often.)
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2013-03-31, 23:48 | Link #2345 |
Gamilas Falls
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Republic of California
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Sometimes I suppose it is fun to be just slightly older than the average anime fan. (Or prehaps we didn't have Cartoon Network in the mid-late 90s or whenever that was, I don't remember). I didn't/don't watch Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece. And the only version of DBZ I've really watched is the TFS Abridged version.
I don't watch a lot of new shows every season. Just one or two usually, with sometimes three or four, or getting into an older show for whatever reason. My start was Space Battleship Yamato and that remains the main focus, even though it has been decades since I started with it. I've picked up other spaceship based space operas, and some moe comedies, but that is generally about it.
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2013-04-01, 03:26 | Link #2346 |
Some say I'm the Reverse
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That's actually another thing I hate about the fandom. They keep asking what they should watch. Which is not a problem in itself--but it feels like they just want to watch whats "in" this season.
Example: "Psycho-Pass" ---which is actually a good show, it just doesn't appeal to me. If you only heard the kind of abuse I get from "Hardcore Otaku" that I'm a bastard for not being a fan of the show.
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2013-04-01, 04:14 | Link #2347 | |
Black Steel Knight
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Indonesia
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On topic: Shakugan no Shana might count as anime I dislike but loved by legions.
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2013-04-01, 04:25 | Link #2348 |
Some say I'm the Reverse
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I don't hang out. I basically drop by anime or card game shops because I have friends who work there. Typical stuff they get are customers complaining about why Gundam models aren't already painted and assembled, or why they can't rip BDs/DVDs from their shop and give them away for free.
You won't believe how many twits you'll meet IRL. I call them twits rather than elitists, because they're not watching anime out of enjoyment--they're watching anime because it puts them in with the 'in' crowd. You know the type: The guy who has all of this Rei and Asuka merchandise from Evangelion but has never watched an episode/movie (or even knows what it's about). And I think we've all heard the story of the idiot who bought BIBLE BLACK home to watch with his girlfriend on a friend's recommendation. People are free to have their own opinions--I will very often butt heads and disagree violently with them. But I'd rather have that than someone who's basically only watching anime because someone else tells them to.
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2013-04-01, 06:25 | Link #2350 | |
Black Steel Knight
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Location: Indonesia
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Note: I haven't seen the 3rd season coz, frankly, I can't take it anymore after watching the first two. Ironically, I usually recommend Shana to those newbie members who are looking for fantasy-action-romance anime XP.
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2013-04-01, 19:41 | Link #2351 |
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Yes, though the show itself is mediocre at best. Besides its casts are 90% are males I don't see how it is "better" than any other moe slice-of-life shows like K-On!. At least K-On! have good though limited soundtrack.
Back to the topic Ouran High School Host Club failed to impress me despite its huge fanbase and high ratings in almost every anime review sites like MyAnimeList, Anime News Network, Anime-Planet and Anime-Source for examples. I can understand how teenage girls and young women love it but at least from my observation men also suspects as well. I should say this but I have no idea why it is so popular to male viewers except perhaps the love Haruhi, the "female" lead. I find Haruhi is the reason why I stopped watching that show. If it just Tamaki and his gang alone I would able to stomach it but Haruhi as heroine is a big no-no. I don't hate reverse harem genre but I think Tohru from Fruit Basket is a better reverse harem heroine than Haruhi as she had better personality. Ironically Ouran is actually not that popular to male Japanese viewers than non-Japanese ones, especially English-speaking ones. Some of my Japanese friend knows the show's existence but never actually saw it just because it never actually made for them anyway. |
2013-04-01, 20:04 | Link #2352 | |
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2013-04-01, 20:11 | Link #2353 | |
Princess or Plunderer?
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2013-04-01, 20:16 | Link #2354 |
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Location: East Asia
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Regarding shakugan no shana, season 1 + 2 are pretty much dedicated for character developments while in season 3 it goes full war between two factions (flame haze vs tomogara). As a LN reader myself, i tend to think that season 3 is definitely the worst when it comes to execution (They butchered about 40% of the source material), which make the whole story fell flat compared to it's predecessors.
Yuji's character, to be honest, is more centered around his conflicting emotion and love triangle between him, shana, and Kazumi (which later became the shows' main appeal) rather than your usual powerhouse male characters. It's true that he evolved into more "Alpha" type in third season, but his idealism, his struggle, and his genuine love towards shana remain as his main appeal until the end of the story |
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2013-04-02, 00:57 | Link #2357 |
Still Alive
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Shakugan no Shana II - I watched this on T.V.(the only reason why I watched it) when I was relatively new to anime. The first episode was interesting. Shana's character looked intriguing enough. Didn't have any hope for Yuji - I knew I was going to be infuriated by him. But as the season progressed, the story just moved from fighting whatever evil there was to getting boyfriends, ugh... And the fact that Shana, by law of stupidity fell in "love" with Yuji - who, as I guessed, turned out to be the most lame-ass protagonist I have seen - just killed the show for me. The one character I was interested in was reduced to "Yuji is mine" fangirl by the end of the show*RAGGGGEEEEE*. The other girl in the apparent love tirangle was pretty pathetic too - I just hate those type of useless characters.
And was there a plot? Oh there was, but it got swept under the rug(at least in my eyes) in favor of Yuji-gasm. It just infuriates me to no end when the potential of a show is wasted like this - like HSoTD.
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2013-04-02, 07:47 | Link #2358 | |
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2013-04-02, 08:03 | Link #2359 |
Black Steel Knight
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Not really. I just mentioned them as examples of good and timeless anime. As for Shana, the reasons you gave me of why it deserve that much fandom doesn't look like much if we talk about the anime itself. Just like those people who like Dragon Ball Z. The anime itself is not that special.
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2013-04-02, 08:25 | Link #2360 | |
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