2012-08-22, 17:39 | Link #23041 |
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Despite Assange claims, U.S. has no current case against him
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...87L12W20120822
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2012-08-22, 18:42 | Link #23042 |
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At which point the Japanese claim was likely considered stronger, or had already taken effect. However the islands are still disputed and the United States usually ignores the situation as long as the Chinese don't come to claim it with their military. At that point I would think both the Americans and Japanese would be upset by the move...Taiwan probably as well. The likely reason it was not given to Taiwan is because it is officially considered part of China since the early 1970s and thus giving it to Taiwan would be giving it to China (by default) or it would cause an international incident if the Chinese get upset by more "official" recognization of Taiwan as an independance country that is not "China". So it goes to Japan.
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2012-08-22, 19:52 | Link #23043 | |
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More to the point. I'm not exactly sure how the United States could have Assange extradited to the United States and charged...for something. As a non US citizen, he certainly had no legal obligation to not leak classified material that had been divulged to him.
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2012-08-22, 20:10 | Link #23044 |
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Please, everyone knows that the proper way to deal with this kind of situation is through a game of Mahjong.
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2012-08-22, 23:28 | Link #23046 |
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Should this thing escalate about the Senkaku Islands, how long would it take before anti-Chinese riots spread in Japan? I'm asking that question because there's something odd from my point of view: I always see anti-Japanese riots from the Chinese on TV, but never quite see the opposite from the Japanese people on TV when there's a dispute between the 2 countries on something. Same thing about that other island sitting between Japan and South Korea.
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2012-08-23, 00:08 | Link #23047 |
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The Japanese people are quite peaceful (unless lead by a big shot ultranationalist). There will be protests, but riots probably will be the last thing on their minds.
Besides, Saturday is just two days away, they have their anime nights to watch rather than deal with some hegemon wannabe up North.
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2012-08-23, 10:04 | Link #23051 |
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Discussion of the situation in the China Sea
Today's instalment of the National Public Radio program OnPoint focuses on the China Sea. it includes commentary from a variety of Western and Asian academics and journalists. Well-known foreign policy professor Graham Allison analogizes the situation to Thucydides' history of the Peloponnesian Wars in the final segment.
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2012-08-23, 10:39 | Link #23052 | |
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2012-08-23, 13:35 | Link #23053 | |
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Also, how many people did the Japanese even kill? I'd bet that only a few, maybe ten millions were directly slaughtered by the Japanese soldiers, and the rest died or famine, disease, or other causes like warlords or that Yellow River flood caused by the retreated ROC troops. By contrast, between 1949 and 1959 at least a few millions were executed for being intellectuals, landlords, and members of various religious sects. Between 1958 and 1962, 30-40 millions were killed due to severe crop mismanagement. Between 1966-1976 at least a another few millions were killed by Red Guards and more countless millions were driven to commit suicide. When some Japanese politician or another goes to visit that shrine and honor the dead soldiers, Chinese people get really pumped out about how they are also respecting the war criminals, but every day in China the same party that killed many times the number slaughtered by the Japanese still rules, and Mao Zedong is still revered as a great leader who made "mistakes." The Chinese ought to face their own gov's massive historical responsibility rather than complain about a few imperfections in the Japanese system. After all, it was Mao Zedong who, when the Japanese offered reparations, said "you helped us defeat the Nationalists, thanks but we don't need reparations." |
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2012-08-23, 13:44 | Link #23054 | |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes
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2012-08-23, 13:49 | Link #23055 | |
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None of the leadership form Unit-731 was ever punish. Several went on to found Green Cross Pharmaceutical. There is saying sorry and actually meaning it. Regarding the media prototypical, I don't read or watch Chinese news media. My impression of the Japanese thoughts on WWII comes form Western Media. If the Governor of Tokyo belongs to the fringe minority, how does he get re-elected? all those years.
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2012-08-23, 14:49 | Link #23058 | |
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PS> not form Chinese media.
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2012-08-23, 15:04 | Link #23059 |
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The problem with this debate is that I've heard two sides now with conflicting information. One that a textbook removed history implicating the Japanese, and then another article saying the Japanese Supreme Court ruled that the same textbook could not removed said history.
Is it possible that the Chinese or American sources of information of Japanese textbooks is out of date, but prepetuated because it helps their own cases? What are current Japanese school textbooks using rather than the ones from 1997 that was called on its nonsense by the Japanese themselves.
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2012-08-23, 15:06 | Link #23060 | |
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It's full of words no actual information. So some rightist textbooks were approved. What is their circulation? Are they the only textbooks used by Japanese schools?
To the second (and indirectly, the first) question, I can say that it is untrue. I knew someone who studied in Japan, went to Japanese high school, and in their books there was a full chapter dedicated to Japanese war crimes in China, with a large photo of a Japanese soldier stabbing a civilian woman with a bayonet. Quote:
I don't really care either way if it's Chinese media or not. What I said in the first post was making a different point, namely that Japanese atrocities are hyped up in comparison to the Communist ones, when they shouldn't be. It has nothing to do with whether or not the Japanese atrocities actually happened or how the subject is treated by modern Japanese. |
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