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Ichimaru · 2006-01-22, 11:55

Trio of renji/kira/hinamori, i will just concentrate on renji since i dont know much information on the other two characters..

In eps 61 Aizen was explaining how his afraid of renji/kira/hinamori, what does he mean by being afraid of them?? they would disrupt/troublesome to his plans or afraid of their potential?? First time he saw them, he saw their work ethic and wanted to use them so he recruited them and split them up into other divisions. Lets have a breakdown:

Renji-
AIZEN claims that renji is the most troublesome/dangerous to him when they fought on the peak, he knows that renji wouldnt be useful to him so he doesnt recruit him into his or gins division. It could also be that of renjis personality that is hard to persuade or is he too smart to be outwit. So he breaks the trio up and sends them to other divisions. Then didnt AIZEN totally screwed up his own plans by sending Renji to Kuchikis division? You dont go and send a guy who is ambitious and a hard work ethic to a division that has a strong captain. And we all know how renji panned out, another good example is ikkaku how he panned layter on in the manga.

The serious question here is, why didnt aizen send renji to tousen's division, who is probaly one of the weaker captains....or maybe at that time tetsuo wasnt recruited to his alliance yet, or to any other inferior divisions.

Desti-Fate · 2006-01-22, 12:19

As far as I know he was sent to division 11 first, then division 6?

I don't think Aizen was particularly bothered by these 3; but since he and Ichimaru had to have a subordinate he figured that he might as well pick people that were easily controlled. Momo was too infatuated with Aizen to question him, and Kira was too spineless to disobey Gin. Both ended up being useful diversions.
Renji wasn't easily controlled, so Aizen got rid of him.

Komataguri · 2006-01-22, 12:29

Renji is a wild card that follows his emotions if he disagrees with the orders.

Thats why Aizen sent him away.

Grees · 2006-01-22, 16:32

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Originally Posted by Ichimaru

Trio of renji/kira/hinamori, i will just concentrate on renji since i dont know much information on the other two characters..

In eps 61 Aizen was explaining how his afraid of renji/kira/hinamori, what does he mean by being afraid of them??

Aizen said that? I don't think he's afraid of anyone, he just selects them on how useful they are to his plans.

Wolcik · 2006-01-24, 03:45

Aizen needed to have somebody to work under him, and Renji didn't fit him, but was orignally in trio so he was sent to 11th division (it was Zaraki already there, as he met up with Ikkaku) and than Renji went to 6th division to suprass Byakuya on his own, just like Iba did to satisfy his mother and become a VC. Aizen wasn't afraid of Renji but didn't needed him or wanted in his plan

Blade21 · 2006-01-24, 16:53

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Originally Posted by Komataguri

Renji is a wild card that follows his emotions if he disagrees with the orders.

Thats why Aizen sent him away.

I think i'm going to agree with that one. Renji is a lose bullet.
From what we could see in the previous arc he even took on the captain of his own squad. That pretty much underlines what you have just said. Even if Renji is under the spell of Aizen, he could still ruin Aizens plot by doing something stupid and\or emotional.

Aizen probably just send him to a place out of the way. Considering how much Renji's squadcaptain likes rules it could be that Aizen thougth he could minimize Renji's haywire behavior.

Wolcik · 2006-01-24, 19:31

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Originally Posted by Blade21

Aizen probably just send him to a place out of the way. Considering how much Renji's squadcaptain likes rules it could be that Aizen thougth he could minimize Renji's haywire behavior.

so Aizen agreed with 6th division transfer because of Byakuya's reasoning

11th Division as there were all strong and fightloving ppl so Renji would keep himself busy... or maybe Aizen knew about Renji's ambision as they were pretty close together

so 11th to make him stonger and 6th (on Renji's own decision, and Byakuya's aproval) to start chasing his dream

Ichimaru · 2006-01-24, 23:56

so all that arrogance teachin is from kenpachi?

KiNA · 2006-01-25, 00:16

hmmm.. I'm still puzzled over one scene .. in earlier episode, Aizen asked Renji about his thought on Rukia's execution .. I still cant figure out cause it seems like he's encouraging Renji to save Rukia >.<

Ellaer · 2006-01-25, 02:13

Actually, I think it was some misunderstanding. I think what Aizen meant was that out of the trio, he had to let Renji out because he was going to make the most trouble.

I think Aizen initially wanted to manipulate the trio however, Renji was too... well, Renji. The loose canon. I think Aizen feared Renji would ruin his plan before fruition.

Hence Renji was transferred out of the 5th division to the 11th, which is basically a dumping ground for shinigamis. At least for Gotei 13. Funny how 11th Divisioners are now amongst the most powerful. Haha.

Wolcik · 2006-01-25, 05:54

11th division was the one that was taken over by some brute guy from outside that just came and killed its capitan and put many yakuza-like guys as his subordinates

so it's

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basically a dumping ground for shinigamis

2006-01-22, 11:55	Link #1
Ichimaru Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Aizen afraid of trio..... Trio of renji/kira/hinamori, i will just concentrate on renji since i dont know much information on the other two characters.. In eps 61 Aizen was explaining how his afraid of renji/kira/hinamori, what does he mean by being afraid of them?? they would disrupt/troublesome to his plans or afraid of their potential?? First time he saw them, he saw their work ethic and wanted to use them so he recruited them and split them up into other divisions. Lets have a breakdown: Renji- AIZEN claims that renji is the most troublesome/dangerous to him when they fought on the peak, he knows that renji wouldnt be useful to him so he doesnt recruit him into his or gins division. It could also be that of renjis personality that is hard to persuade or is he too smart to be outwit. So he breaks the trio up and sends them to other divisions. Then didnt AIZEN totally screwed up his own plans by sending Renji to Kuchikis division? You dont go and send a guy who is ambitious and a hard work ethic to a division that has a strong captain. And we all know how renji panned out, another good example is ikkaku how he panned layter on in the manga. The serious question here is, why didnt aizen send renji to tousen's division, who is probaly one of the weaker captains....or maybe at that time tetsuo wasnt recruited to his alliance yet, or to any other inferior divisions. __________________ SHINSOU Last edited by Ichimaru; 2006-01-22 at 12:23.

2006-01-24, 03:45	Link #5
Wolcik Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Poland Age: 37	Aizen needed to have somebody to work under him, and Renji didn't fit him, but was orignally in trio so he was sent to 11th division (it was Zaraki already there, as he met up with Ikkaku) and than Renji went to 6th division to suprass Byakuya on his own, just like Iba did to satisfy his mother and become a VC. Aizen wasn't afraid of Renji but didn't needed him or wanted in his plan __________________

2006-01-24, 23:56	Link #8
Ichimaru Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	so all that arrogance teachin is from kenpachi? __________________ SHINSOU

2006-01-22, 12:19	Link #2
Desti-Fate Now available in pink Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norn' Irelan', UK	As far as I know he was sent to division 11 first, then division 6? I don't think Aizen was particularly bothered by these 3; but since he and Ichimaru had to have a subordinate he figured that he might as well pick people that were easily controlled. Momo was too infatuated with Aizen to question him, and Kira was too spineless to disobey Gin. Both ended up being useful diversions. Renji wasn't easily controlled, so Aizen got rid of him.

2006-01-22, 12:29	Link #3
Komataguri Reverend K-Rist Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: America's Wang. Age: 40	Renji is a wild card that follows his emotions if he disagrees with the orders. Thats why Aizen sent him away.

2006-01-25, 02:13	Link #10
Ellaer Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Actually, I think it was some misunderstanding. I think what Aizen meant was that out of the trio, he had to let Renji out because he was going to make the most trouble. I think Aizen initially wanted to manipulate the trio however, Renji was too... well, Renji. The loose canon. I think Aizen feared Renji would ruin his plan before fruition. Hence Renji was transferred out of the 5th division to the 11th, which is basically a dumping ground for shinigamis. At least for Gotei 13. Funny how 11th Divisioners are now amongst the most powerful. Haha.