2010-04-25, 00:30 | Link #9121 | |
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At least when I did it I showed that it was possible personalities were genetic for George. And when Lyricalaura did it Kinzo was being hidden because he was senile and the Beatrice personality was in control. When you do it you don't even give any hints. I find that disgusting. Stop using out of game reds. I called it obnoxious when Chronotrig did it and it's the same for me in this case too.
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2010-04-25, 00:36 | Link #9122 | |
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2010-04-25, 00:38 | Link #9123 | |
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2010-04-25, 00:47 | Link #9125 | |
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Wasn't it that Shkanon supporters say that since Jessica mentioned personalities, it satisfies Knox's 8th? If you can take something Jessica said and call it a clue for Shannon/Kanon, then I can call it a clue for anyone else. (if that's not the case, then tell me something that satisfies Knox's 8th without it being a devil's proof) At least, it makes sense to me that way. |
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2010-04-25, 00:52 | Link #9127 | |
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2010-04-25, 01:01 | Link #9129 | |
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And even though I still haven't gotten a Knox's 8th for Shkanon that isn't a devil's proof, the discussion over what is considered a clue might take just as long, so there really isn't a need for one. But if you're planning on convincing me Shkanon is true, I won't accept it without a Knox's 8th, so do as you like. |
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2010-04-25, 01:06 | Link #9131 |
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At this point I don't care anymore. I just hate the faggotry you people have to use demonstrate your points on how ridiculous it is. It's just as obnoxious as saying that "Ryu said this in said interview therefore Shkanon is almost certain to be true".
I don't like Shkanon either BTW
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2010-04-25, 01:17 | Link #9132 | |
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It was just another attempt at proving it wrong, nothing more. |
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2010-04-25, 01:18 | Link #9133 |
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He is what I don't get about you guy's dead not existing theory. With Kinzo he is dead before October 4th so it's impossible for a living Kinzo to exist because he's dead. With Erika at least she dies of Hypothermia or something before any of the murders happen and it takes almost the whole day of October 4th for the GM to set everything up.
With Kanon all you have is a dead kid in a closet. Why does he not exist just because he dies after all of the other murders happen? Does Kyrie also not exist because her head was severed? Does not existing mean your not a piece in play anymore or something? Or is him being dead just the easiest way out for you guys?
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2010-04-25, 01:34 | Link #9134 | |
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2010-04-25, 02:00 | Link #9137 | |
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But the main problem I found was that the term 存在/exist isn't a widely used term. They don't talk about Jessica not existing after she dies, or Kyrie, or any other person. Except for Kinzo, Battler and Kanon. With Kinzo, there were lines about a 'living Kinzo' and just 'Kinzo' as well. The ones about him being dead are with just the 'Kinzo.' But unlike Battler and possibly Kanon, Kinzo is dead before the game starts. With Battler and Kanon the 'does not exist' includes 'in this room.' With Battler we know he left the room. With Kanon however... If we are to be strict about the 'exist' term then I'm thinking it must be similar to Kinzo or it must be similar to Battler. None of this making up a new definition of getting around the term 'exist.' |
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2010-04-25, 02:08 | Link #9138 |
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I think it's really simple. "Exist" can refer either to a dead person or an alive person. After all, the reason we're arguing about it is because neither English nor Japanese defines the word to mean only one or the other. Why should the red have extra hidden rules?
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2010-04-25, 02:09 | Link #9139 | ||
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Incidentally you can have more than one of those, since if you own anybody else's corpses before being dead, they can, in a sense, be 'your corpses' when you die.
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2010-04-25, 02:13 | Link #9140 |
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Exist has two definitions. EDIT: Ok actually 5...
1. To live, or be alive. 2. To be; especially to be a real, actual, or current thing, not merely something imagined. EDIT: 3. Occur; to be present or found in a particular place or situation 4. Survive; to manage to survive or stay alive. 5. Live an unsatisfactory life, to live an unsatisfactory, joyless, or humdrum life, as opposed to an exciting or meaningful one. Last edited by Laserworm; 2010-04-25 at 02:25. Reason: Add points. |
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