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2008-04-13, 23:29 | Link #23 | |
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If I understand it right, if the card has auto-MDI/MDIX then crossover cables are not necessary because the NIC interprets what the device is on the other end and switches its interpretation of the cable automatically. You could use a crossover cable or a regular patch cable with such a card. It's probably not a safe assumption to make that all NICs these days support it; the NIC in my Macbook Pro is a Marvell Yukon card (Yukon Gigabit Adapter 88E8053 Singleport Copper SA). I'd imagine that NICs should advertise whether they have that feature or not, and if it isn't as commonplace as I'd assumed then it might only be on higher-end cards. Definitely worth checking out either way.
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2008-04-13, 23:42 | Link #25 |
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In the states, yes. Plain generic regular cat5/cat6 is not easily found in stores. It does not matter whether you get generic plain or super high quality cable for what you are doing though. The performance difference will be indistinguishable.
As said by others, crossover cable (computer <-> computer) on the other hand is much more expensive than regular cat5. You can usually buy 2 or 3 regular cat cables for the price of one crossover. If you know a small computer shop that makes and sells its own cables, they will usually make you one for a fraction of the price though. |
2008-04-14, 07:35 | Link #26 | |
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I have a Linux router running NAT, an OpenVPN tunnel, and the squid proxy in front of some 250 workstations at one client site. It doesn't break a sweat (even if it could). At one time it was a 586 machine, but we swapped it out recently to a 2.4 GHz P4 purely on aging grounds. I've been building Linux routers for over a decade now; performance is never an issue. WK, it might be worthwhile to find out exactly what it is your parents want to limit about your sister's usage. Is it the amount of time she's online? The types of places she can, or cannot, visit? Squid is a remarkably powerful tool for shaping people's web usage with elaborate access control features. It also keeps logs of users' browsing habits, so your parents could see if she strayed off course. My daughter has had pretty much unfettered Internet access since she was in elementary school. I did run squid and could browse the logs from time to time, but usually I was trying to figure out the sources of the occasional spyware infections she got back when she was still a Windows user. I even let her have a computer in her bedroom which she could use privately. Maybe I'm just lucky to have such a wonderful daughter, but she didn't spend time at questionable sites or download "dirty" content. I had a bigger problem blocking porn spam from her mailbox, especially in the days when porn spam actually contained explicit pictures in the message bodies rather than off-site links.
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2008-04-14, 07:54 | Link #27 | |
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2008-04-14, 09:30 | Link #28 |
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I'd like to repeat again that buying a wireless router does not mean you actually have to use the wireless capabilities. You can just use it as a wired router, like this:
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Then if you decide you want to go wireless sometime in the future OR if you buy a notebook OR if a friend comes over with a notebook, they can connect easily. And if you look around, a wireless router shouldn't be more expensive than a wired one (not much anyway). Actually I got the exact model pictured above (Netgear) for a friend of my sister just a week ago for about 30 euro, which is about as low as you can go here. You may have to shop around a bit though, as one shop I went to only had "N" (100+ Mbps wirelss speed) class wireless routers, which are much more expensive than the slightly older but still quite capable "G" (54Mbps) class wireless. Edit: I just noticed you're neither in the US or Europe, so I'm not sure what kind of hardware is available in your country and/or at what price. If wireless is really much more expensive, ignore my advice. |
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2008-04-14, 11:31 | Link #30 |
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Dragging UTP across the house is horribly messy imho and doors catching the cable can cause it to start having loads of errors. Has anyone mentioned homeplug solutions yet? homeplug v2 is out @200mbps (well it goes up to 200mbps, but that is dependant on your line). It's meant to be much more stable now then the companies which did their own versions before the standard was ratified. Unfortunately it is a bit expensive....
But if u do go for a wireless router (I recommend it unless u have a low power headless box), then I go for what martino said earlier about dd-wrt, they have a list of all the supported routers and they are normally quite cheap. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices
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2008-04-14, 12:30 | Link #31 |
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Homeplug - is that one of those LANs that work through the power lines? The idea is pretty neat and doesn't require much in the way of wiring but it's pretty hard to come by the components for it. I've also heard that it isn't as simple as they make it out to be - in order for it to work the network plugs need to be connected to sockets that are on the same circuit (or something to that extent). If you have a modest house you're probably in luck, but if you're living in some sort of mansion then you'll need to find the wiring layout so that you can match it up properly. The devices won't see each other if they're on different wiring sets.
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Not too sure what a circuit is now as my big boss has his with one down stairs and one up stairs and he is positive that they are on different fuses (on the same fuse box).
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2008-04-14, 14:09 | Link #33 |
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lol, I just remembered this motherboard carries an onboard NIC, and that I had put in an extra one my dad had lying about when I put the box together, so I guess I'll use that. Either way, the Windows box doesn't seem to have a NIC (it's a premade box, so I have no goddamn clue what's in it without popping it open, something I'll get to in the weekend), so I think buying one is inevitable.
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2008-04-14, 14:35 | Link #34 | |
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2008-04-14, 15:23 | Link #36 |
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I haven't seen a machine without motherboard Ethernet in a very long time. Take another look near the USB and keyboard/mouse ports. You can also review the machine's hardware inventory by running the System applet from the Windows control panel. You'll see a button or tab that displays a tree with the machine's hardware; look under Network Adapters.
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2008-04-14, 17:13 | Link #38 | |
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2008-04-18, 18:05 | Link #40 |
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Okay, I got the network switch and the Ethernet cable I needed, and tomorrow I'll look into setting it all up. I'd be glad if Seiji can give me a few pointers on how to do it, especially since I know very little of networking in general.
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