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Eratas123 · 2012-02-17, 09:13

@ Senpai - Temprament? Are you saying that 25+ year olds can't be immature? I've seen people past their mid thirties acting way too impulsive.

Note - I meant unit type. What's Rin's unit? A CQC specialist with a wave cannon. Laura's? A machine that blocks everything in front of her (take note the room is cramped). What's Cecilia's? A sniper

demino_hellsin · 2012-02-17, 09:13

please don't argue with canon about Autumn or Tatenashi with me. Those are some of the things burned into my mind to avoid when I write about them.

Actually Rin has the lowest probability of beating Autumn because she excels in melee combat, but considering Arachne has about 4-10 arms worth of advantage she won't stand a chance.

Cecilia would be level headed enough to actually move away and blast her.

Houki's chances aren't much better than Rin but I have faith that Akatsubaki would ensure she has better chances.

Charlotte is probably the next strongest female next to Laura, canon rankings be ****ed.

Laura will win, period.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-17, 09:19

Hell, maybe it was her temperament that makes her look old, ever heard that smile is a cure for rapid aging?

Also, Rin's blast cannon is dangerous to herself as it's to enemy at close range (due to air expansion).

I stand corrected, Charlotte will win even thought the fight is close, Laura will be easier, and Tatenashi... well...

A change of topic, does Shizune fits long range, mid range, or close range according to your opinion? Also, Yuzu, that's if you guys remember her

Eratas123 · 2012-02-17, 09:23

@'Demi - Move away to where? It was stated that the room was cramped, so what would an extra ten feet do when you're using a sniper? Unless she plans to hip fire it, I don't see her even getting a chance.

@ Senpai - Honestly, she doesn't look that old. She could probably pass for a college student.

Note - Speaking of which, where the heck did they get the unit? Must not have been irreplaceable considering she blew it up.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-17, 09:26

Hence I said around 20 years, maybe less, maybe more.

Maybe they built it? If they knew the technology, and necessary resources, maybe not that far-fetched. It was Core that is truly irreplaceable.

demino_hellsin · 2012-02-17, 09:28

@eras: I'm banking on the possibility that Cecilia will actually show her smart side that makes her a representative candidate. If not, well she's no better than Ichika, same applies to all the other girls.

@zero: Shizune seems to be an all-rounder with much better skills at mid to close range. Designated marksman I'd say. Yuzu, I'ma look into her character first.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-17, 09:29

@ Senpai - Hm, Shizune makes me think of a mid fielder. Basically, she's mid and close ranged in fighting, but bad in speed and long range. Yuzu makes me think of pure Melee and speed.

Note - If they could build units, then why do they bother stealing them and getting attention?

@ Demi - I'm saying no matter how smart you are, you're not gonna get far if your options are limited. If a guy at the end of a long, straight hallway aims an assault rifle at you and shoots, you're not gonna get him no matter how smart you are unless you're Neo and dodge the bullets.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-17, 09:32

I'm planning to give her a gun tonfa, until I realize the stupidity of using Barrel as melee weapon (and the fact it also doubles as parrying unit). I keep the tonfa design though, it was designed with plasma hammer that can broke through I.S. barrier (but not enough to pierce absolute Barrier)

@ Eras

Really? Yuzu seems like a humble, supportive type. But thanks for the opinion, still waiting for Demi's

EDIT: Maybe they lacked creativity or choose a risky shortcut to get latest technology.

demino_hellsin · 2012-02-17, 09:32

Arachne was stated to be some country's gen 2 model. America I think. I think it's a limited production type but considering PT's penchant in going for super units, probably the prototype for Arachne

Eratas123 · 2012-02-17, 09:34

Supportive can be variable. The best support for a long range gunner is a speedy Melee. What else can she do? It's not like this is an RPG with heal spells and stat buffs.

demino_hellsin · 2012-02-17, 09:37

@eras: If it was a normal hallway, then I'd run into another room, jump out the window and onto the fire escape, if not then run down the stairs. If I have a super mech and I'm fighting another super mech, I'd consider duck, return fire. Get the hell away and set my sh*t straight.

@zero: by yuzu... do you mean mayuzumi?

Eratas123 · 2012-02-17, 09:39

@'Demi - You're saying that while you're typing on your comp. Many people say that they can et out of jigsaw's traps easy, but I bet you my savings the minute they get put inthe situation they're gonna panic and get killed.

demino_hellsin · 2012-02-17, 09:43

because jigsaw's traps gave me a mech descended from the blue prints of another mech that totally owned probably 80% of the military power of major superpowers worldwide. Yes, I can definitely relate the two.

Jigsaw's puzzles give you 2 options. Risk dying before surviving or die. He preys on human nature. The situation in IS isn't all that psychological. He has a gun, you have a gun. Do the math. You don't want to kill him then fine, but at least have the presence of mind to run away. Plus it's not like Autumn was their first fight, Gospel was much more troublesome.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-17, 09:46

Okay, think of it this way: You're relaxing in your room, everything is cool....and then somebody kicks down hour door, aims a shotgun at you, and immediately shoots. Would you say you can dodge him, not get hit a second time, and attack him all while you had no preparation beforehand?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-17, 09:55

Hmm....

Close enough, I think I'll just have her as Master of None, with 2.5/5 stat on everything. And despite using Uchigane, camouflage projector and Module adjustment allow her to be a decent long-mid-range fighter (Though still far cry compared to the main cast).

Oh, By the way, I mean Yuzu Tanimoto. That cheerful girl with brown hair, hanging out with Kiyoka and Honne, replacing Sayuka Yorutake.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-17, 09:57

@ Senpai - you were talking about her? Woohps, I was talking about Yorutake.

demino_hellsin · 2012-02-17, 10:03

@zero: either all around trooper or mechanic.

whenever I see the name Yuzu, the first thing that comes to mind is Devil Survivor...Mmmm... Yuzu...

@eras: okaaaay. So that translates to Ichika being pulled aside. Kicked in the gut, mocked, have heel of said foot ground into him, then given a chance to summon his unit and arming himself. Yes, I can completely see the similarities.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-17, 10:09

Thats.... idiotic....

Eratas123 · 2012-02-17, 10:10

@ Demi - May I please remind you who Ichika is? This is the same guy who let's his friends beat the crap out of him on a daily basis. Also, he knew who Autumn was before and thought she was a cheerful and friendly businesswoman, not a psychotic pilot.

You know what, if you wanna say you could've handled it ten times better than he could, then go right ahead. I don't really wanna bother arguing with you when you just get sarcastic whenever I answer. Besides, We were talking about what Ichika was doing, not you. Unless you can provide proof that Ichika can be badass and a quick thinker when he's a lerroy Jenkins in canon, then I have nothing else to say.

demino_hellsin · 2012-02-17, 10:14

@eras: You're the first one who pointed at me. I am only making conjectures based on how badass each character was being drawn out as, also given the canon situation I can recall.

@zero: well that's all I can see the girls who hang around Honne as

without getting more info on them I can't make any sound judgements.

2012-02-17, 09:13	Link #22521
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Temprament? Are you saying that 25+ year olds can't be immature? I've seen people past their mid thirties acting way too impulsive. Note - I meant unit type. What's Rin's unit? A CQC specialist with a wave cannon. Laura's? A machine that blocks everything in front of her (take note the room is cramped). What's Cecilia's? A sniper __________________

2012-02-17, 09:19	Link #22523
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Hell, maybe it was her temperament that makes her look old, ever heard that smile is a cure for rapid aging? Also, Rin's blast cannon is dangerous to herself as it's to enemy at close range (due to air expansion). I stand corrected, Charlotte will win even thought the fight is close, Laura will be easier, and Tatenashi... well... A change of topic, does Shizune fits long range, mid range, or close range according to your opinion? Also, Yuzu, that's if you guys remember her __________________

2012-02-17, 09:23	Link #22524
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@'Demi - Move away to where? It was stated that the room was cramped, so what would an extra ten feet do when you're using a sniper? Unless she plans to hip fire it, I don't see her even getting a chance. @ Senpai - Honestly, she doesn't look that old. She could probably pass for a college student. Note - Speaking of which, where the heck did they get the unit? Must not have been irreplaceable considering she blew it up. __________________

2012-02-17, 09:26	Link #22525
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Hence I said around 20 years, maybe less, maybe more. Maybe they built it? If they knew the technology, and necessary resources, maybe not that far-fetched. It was Core that is truly irreplaceable. __________________

2012-02-17, 09:29	Link #22527
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Hm, Shizune makes me think of a mid fielder. Basically, she's mid and close ranged in fighting, but bad in speed and long range. Yuzu makes me think of pure Melee and speed. Note - If they could build units, then why do they bother stealing them and getting attention? @ Demi - I'm saying no matter how smart you are, you're not gonna get far if your options are limited. If a guy at the end of a long, straight hallway aims an assault rifle at you and shoots, you're not gonna get him no matter how smart you are unless you're Neo and dodge the bullets. __________________

2012-02-17, 09:13	Link #22522
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	please don't argue with canon about Autumn or Tatenashi with me. Those are some of the things burned into my mind to avoid when I write about them. Actually Rin has the lowest probability of beating Autumn because she excels in melee combat, but considering Arachne has about 4-10 arms worth of advantage she won't stand a chance. Cecilia would be level headed enough to actually move away and blast her. Houki's chances aren't much better than Rin but I have faith that Akatsubaki would ensure she has better chances. Charlotte is probably the next strongest female next to Laura, canon rankings be ****ed. Laura will win, period.

2012-02-17, 09:28	Link #22526
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	@eras: I'm banking on the possibility that Cecilia will actually show her smart side that makes her a representative candidate. If not, well she's no better than Ichika, same applies to all the other girls. @zero: Shizune seems to be an all-rounder with much better skills at mid to close range. Designated marksman I'd say. Yuzu, I'ma look into her character first.

2012-02-17, 09:32	Link #22528
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	I'm planning to give her a gun tonfa, until I realize the stupidity of using Barrel as melee weapon (and the fact it also doubles as parrying unit). I keep the tonfa design though, it was designed with plasma hammer that can broke through I.S. barrier (but not enough to pierce absolute Barrier) @ Eras Really? Yuzu seems like a humble, supportive type. But thanks for the opinion, still waiting for Demi's EDIT: Maybe they lacked creativity or choose a risky shortcut to get latest technology. __________________

2012-02-17, 09:32	Link #22529
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Arachne was stated to be some country's gen 2 model. America I think. I think it's a limited production type but considering PT's penchant in going for super units, probably the prototype for Arachne

2012-02-17, 09:34	Link #22530
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Supportive can be variable. The best support for a long range gunner is a speedy Melee. What else can she do? It's not like this is an RPG with heal spells and stat buffs. __________________

2012-02-17, 09:37	Link #22531
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	@eras: If it was a normal hallway, then I'd run into another room, jump out the window and onto the fire escape, if not then run down the stairs. If I have a super mech and I'm fighting another super mech, I'd consider duck, return fire. Get the hell away and set my sh*t straight. @zero: by yuzu... do you mean mayuzumi?

2012-02-17, 09:39	Link #22532
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@'Demi - You're saying that while you're typing on your comp. Many people say that they can et out of jigsaw's traps easy, but I bet you my savings the minute they get put inthe situation they're gonna panic and get killed. __________________

2012-02-17, 09:43	Link #22533
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	because jigsaw's traps gave me a mech descended from the blue prints of another mech that totally owned probably 80% of the military power of major superpowers worldwide. Yes, I can definitely relate the two. Jigsaw's puzzles give you 2 options. Risk dying before surviving or die. He preys on human nature. The situation in IS isn't all that psychological. He has a gun, you have a gun. Do the math. You don't want to kill him then fine, but at least have the presence of mind to run away. Plus it's not like Autumn was their first fight, Gospel was much more troublesome.

2012-02-17, 09:46	Link #22534
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Okay, think of it this way: You're relaxing in your room, everything is cool....and then somebody kicks down hour door, aims a shotgun at you, and immediately shoots. Would you say you can dodge him, not get hit a second time, and attack him all while you had no preparation beforehand? __________________

2012-02-17, 09:55	Link #22535
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Hmm.... Close enough, I think I'll just have her as Master of None, with 2.5/5 stat on everything. And despite using Uchigane, camouflage projector and Module adjustment allow her to be a decent long-mid-range fighter (Though still far cry compared to the main cast). Oh, By the way, I mean Yuzu Tanimoto. That cheerful girl with brown hair, hanging out with Kiyoka and Honne, replacing Sayuka Yorutake. __________________

2012-02-17, 09:57	Link #22536
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - you were talking about her? Woohps, I was talking about Yorutake. __________________

2012-02-17, 10:03	Link #22537
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	@zero: either all around trooper or mechanic. whenever I see the name Yuzu, the first thing that comes to mind is Devil Survivor...Mmmm... Yuzu... @eras: okaaaay. So that translates to Ichika being pulled aside. Kicked in the gut, mocked, have heel of said foot ground into him, then given a chance to summon his unit and arming himself. Yes, I can completely see the similarities.

2012-02-17, 10:09	Link #22538
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Thats.... idiotic.... __________________

2012-02-17, 10:10	Link #22539
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Demi - May I please remind you who Ichika is? This is the same guy who let's his friends beat the crap out of him on a daily basis. Also, he knew who Autumn was before and thought she was a cheerful and friendly businesswoman, not a psychotic pilot. You know what, if you wanna say you could've handled it ten times better than he could, then go right ahead. I don't really wanna bother arguing with you when you just get sarcastic whenever I answer. Besides, We were talking about what Ichika was doing, not you. Unless you can provide proof that Ichika can be badass and a quick thinker when he's a lerroy Jenkins in canon, then I have nothing else to say. __________________

2012-02-17, 10:14	Link #22540
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	@eras: You're the first one who pointed at me. I am only making conjectures based on how badass each character was being drawn out as, also given the canon situation I can recall. @zero: well that's all I can see the girls who hang around Honne as without getting more info on them I can't make any sound judgements.