Bleach (Anime) [Discussion]

[sayde]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

yea, i liked most of the filler (sans lurichiyo).

Me too. That final mod soul filler arc in particular was great. Practically every battle in that arc was well animated and we got to see some interesting match-ups. I loved every moment of it.

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

it was the FKT arc and the Fullbring arc that sucked so bad it got the show cancelled. All those awful fraccion members, fighting in a bland sky background for years, the espada all failing miserably, and don't get me started on the shitbringers. I liked the end of the arrancar saga a lot, but it can't outweigh years of trash.

I agree with almost everything you stated here. Gotta admit, I found the end of the arrancar saga to be incredibly anti-climactic and disappointing. But from the time Aizen stepped into the battle in FKT up until (but not including) the final battle with post-dangai Ichigo, I enjoyed it.

[Strahan]

I am rewatching Bleach, just got done the invading army arc. This filler and the zanpakuto filler I thought were decent. After getting done ep 342 I find I don't have a whole lot of motivation to move into the fullbringer stuff. The only perk in that is the hot redhead fullbringer, heh. Also, I know a shounen generally doesn't dip into romance, but would it have killed the writers to have Ichigo at least hug Rukia just before she faded away? If I were him I'd have hugged her and stole a kiss before she left. I guess my romance story loving side is wishing for too much, lol.

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by Strahan

Also, I know a shounen generally doesn't dip into romance, but would it have killed the writers to have Ichigo at least hug Rukia just before she faded away? If I were him I'd have hugged her and stole a kiss before she left. I guess my romance story loving side is wishing for too much, lol.

It would have worked about as well as him saying, "Well, now that she's out of the way, I'm heading over to Orihime's..." ^_^

[Eragon]

Originally Posted by Strahan

I am rewatching Bleach, just got done the invading army arc. This filler and the zanpakuto filler I thought were decent. After getting done ep 342 I find I don't have a whole lot of motivation to move into the fullbringer stuff. The only perk in that is the hot redhead fullbringer, heh. Also, I know a shounen generally doesn't dip into romance, but would it have killed the writers to have Ichigo at least hug Rukia just before she faded away? If I were him I'd have hugged her and stole a kiss before she left. I guess my romance story loving side is wishing for too much, lol.

Kubo did the smart thing. Look what is happening in Naruto's so called romance sub-plot. Kishi and Kubo are extremely bad at this shit so, its better they just avoid it like the plague. Kishi essentially ruined Sakura by introducing the love triangle way-back-when.

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by Eragon

Kubo did the smart thing. Look what is happening in Naruto's so called romance sub-plot. Kishi and Kubo are extremely bad at this shit so, its better they just avoid it like the plague. Kishi essentially ruined Sakura by introducing the love triangle way-back-when.

inoue is basically sakura with boobs. and ichigo is basically a mixture of naruto and sasuke. he's the cool guy that she likes, but he's too dumb to do anything about it. so all he does is rescue her and have her heal him over and over and over

[SidVicious]

Seiyuu Masaaki Tsukada Passed Away

Seiyuu Masaaki Tsukada, well known for voicing Yamamoto from Bleach and husband of Masako Nozawa, passed away on January 27, 2014. He was resting from physical illness recently before passing away. The funeral is planned on February 2, 2014 at Yokohama Myourenji.

http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0060084

[darthfury78]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

inoue is basically sakura with boobs. and ichigo is basically a mixture of naruto and sasuke. he's the cool guy that she likes, but he's too dumb to do anything about it. so all he does is rescue her and have her heal him over and over and over

That does suck indeed that Ichigo won't even kiss Inoue or Rukia. It's like that with One Piece where the writer stated that he doesn't want to do relationships with the characters, in particular Luffy x Boa Hancock.

[Eragon]

I feel like re-watching the Soul Society arc after hearing this. So many good memories...

Ukitate's Shikai release looks like the most bad ass thing ever :O

[Altes]

And so the English dub of the Fullbring arc has begun. New voices are good, I even liked how Ikumi's voice sounded more motherly than the original. But the opening and ending songs aren't there.

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by Altes

And so the English dub of the Fullbring arc has begun. New voices are good, I even liked how Ikumi's voice sounded more motherly than the original. But the opening and ending songs aren't there.

bleh... i guess now english-only watchers will know why bleach was canceled too

[Altes]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

bleh... i guess now english-only watchers will know why bleach was canceled too

Come on, it can't be worse than the Reigai arc, which is over at long last. Fillers are the true reason Bleach was cancelled.

[Kurohane]

Originally Posted by Altes

Come on, it can't be worse than the Reigai arc, which is over at long last. Fillers are the true reason Bleach was cancelled.

Hear, hear!

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by Altes

Fillers are the true reason Bleach was cancelled.

the FB arc was a filler in the manga

[Hiss13]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

the FB arc was a filler in the manga

I smell personal bias.
Look. There is a reason why the Bleach anime ended and it was not the Fullbring Arc.

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by Hiss13

I smell personal bias.
Look. There is a reason why the Bleach anime ended and it was not the Fullbring Arc.

what is your proof exactly?

[Altes]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

what is your proof exactly?

In the end, what got the anime cancelled were its low ratings, caused by the amount of filler (about a half of the whole number of episodes). Or rather, that's the reason the anime isn't back yet. The current arc has progressed far enough to start animating it without worrying about catching up with the manga, but nope. Not gonna happen anytime soon.

[sayde]

Ratings were already at all-time lows during the final episodes of the Deicide arc (an arc that took years to build up to). So if the ratings were already pretty abysmal by then, I think that Bleach ended up getting cut because even the canon content had proven it was losing it's fanbase to a significant degree. I mean there were literally times when the majority of us here started to feel like moments during filler arcs were far more entertaining than what was currently going in the manga.

Long story short, I'm not surprised Bleach isn't airing anymore. And I wouldn't place the blame solely on fillers. Because if an anime like Naruto could get away with airing non-stop filler for almost 100 consecutive episodes and still stay on, then Bleach could've done the same. The main problem was not enough people were looking forward to seeing the canon content.

And btw, if they were to bring back the anime now, I'm not sure the manga would have progressed far enough ahead yet. I mean based on the snail's pace this is going, I think a revival of the anime could literally catch up to where the manga is right now in one season if they really wanted to.

[Kurohane]

Originally Posted by sayde

Ratings were already at all-time lows during the final episodes of the Deicide arc (an arc that took years to build up to). So if the ratings were already pretty abysmal by then, I think that Bleach ended up getting cut because even the canon content had proven it was losing it's fanbase to a significant degree. I mean there were literally times when the majority of us here started to feel like moments during filler arcs were far more entertaining than what was currently going in the manga.

Long story short, I'm not surprised Bleach isn't airing anymore. And I wouldn't place the blame solely on fillers. Because if an anime like Naruto could get away with airing non-stop filler for almost 100 consecutive episodes and still stay on, then Bleach could've done the same. The main problem was not enough people were looking forward to seeing the canon content.

And btw, if they were to bring back the anime now, I'm not sure the manga would have progressed far enough ahead yet. I mean based on the snail's pace this is going, I think a revival of the anime could literally catch up to where the manga is right now in one season if they really wanted to.

If anything, the ratings dropped because the fillers kept being placed awkwardly in between sections of the Arrancar arc. The Shusuke Amagai filler was between Ichigo vs Grimmjow and Noitra's entrance. When it looks like Ichigo has finally rescued Orihime, next episode all the regular cast are back in the human world as if none of it happened. The Zanpactou filler came in between during Ichigo vs. Ulquiorra, a most anticipated fight. Until recently the Naruto fillers took place between actually arcs, and the transition was much better. What hurt Bleach ratings was that the Arranacar arc was a constant ongoing arc with no interlude, and the staff put two 20+ filler episode arcs, along with few other fillers afterwards in between events of one long arc. It isn't a surprise people started getting sick of the constant back and forth.

[sayde]

Agree to disagree then. Because the canon plot really doesn't leave a whole lot to be desired IMO.

[itachi-san314]

the fact of the matter is that the producers of the show went ahead and did the fullbring arc with full knowledge of the prior ratings. the show was abruptly canceled during that arc and the fullbring arc was rushed to be finished

whether or not people liked the fillers is irrelevant as sayde pointed out. i actually liked some of them more than the canon stuff like fullbring and espada fraccions