2011-02-01, 05:27 | Link #21 |
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Noitamina block animes are usually very good ones. I have 2 which counts as one of my favorites all time Honey and Clover and Nodame Cantabile and for last year Kuragehime was surprisingly good (I'm not a trap fan) and Shiki also. Fractale shows a lot of premise (episode 3 comes into mind) while Hourou Musuko is something different to see. I always make sure to watch 2-3 noitaminA block shows cus more likely or not they're good.
I'm pretty sure the ratings will go up soon. If not well... its still good shows wether it was watched a lot or not.
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2011-02-01, 15:00 | Link #25 |
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Okay, can anyone explain to my why Nodame's ratings dropped so much between season two and three? That doesn't seem like something that can be explained by a change in block content.
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2011-02-01, 15:14 | Link #26 | |
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2011-02-01, 15:43 | Link #27 |
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The lower tier shows have definitely more "fantasy" elements to them, but sure, maybe I was a bit hasty there. My logic goes like this: Shiki = vampires, Fractale = sci-fi, Hourou Musuko and Kuragehime = good concepts gone south (=perceived to be otaku pandering). Higher tier shows like Nodame Cantabile and Hakaba Kitaro had strong franchises backing them up already, then you have realism and shoujo/josei shows as middle tier. Fujoshi and women supposedly were early supporters of this programming block, maybe they moved on? I'd love to hear other lines of thought though!
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2011-02-02, 00:42 | Link #28 | |
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Just a theory, but perhaps the general movement from watching on TV to watch-on-demand (legally or otherwise) might be a factor? Another possibility for Nodame's fall is that long-time fans may have ranked the anime as being less interesting than both the live-action and the manga. That's certainly the case for me (manga >> live-action >>>>>>> anime).
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2011-02-02, 10:39 | Link #29 | |
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It’s not a perfectly explanatory reason, since there are some anime not josei based which have done good, and some josei adaptations that got lemons. But I’m wondering if by sticking only to josei adaptations the situation would have been different today. Then there were also some bad choices. Antique Bakery was to keen on fujioshis' fantsies, TM 8.0 was ruined by a poorly execution, Nodame Cantabile was spoiled by the direction of the second season etc etc etc.
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2011-02-02, 18:18 | Link #30 | ||
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Most would say that Gundam SEED Destiny was awful, and yet that was a ratings success in Japan. And the same can be said for the reverse: a show can be seen as very well written or have interesting concepts, but that doesn't mean it'll win people's eyeballs. Quote:
As for Noitamina becoming more otaku-ish, I can't really comment. However, it does remind me a little of why doroku failed. That timeslot started off with kid friendly shows that could appeal to an older audience (teenagers). But after SEED Destiny, they decided to drop the kid fanbase and went with seinen, half-empty shows like Blood+ and its successors. Why can't the producers understand the demographics of the timeslots they're in charge of? Last edited by Destinyblade; 2011-02-02 at 18:32. |
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2011-02-03, 13:03 | Link #31 |
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Today's Japan Times features an article about the Noitamina timeslot: Anime's late, late show
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2011-02-03, 13:29 | Link #32 | |
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Nakamura Kenji and company are up again soon with a story about "power and money?" I wasn't a Trapeze fan, but I look forward to anything these guys put out. Looks like he's jumping ship from Toei to Tatsunoko, too.
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2011-02-03, 14:02 | Link #33 | |
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2011-02-03, 17:37 | Link #34 |
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C is the last chance for noitaminA to redeem itself. if it fails i can see the block getting cancelled in 2012. Usagi drop won't save it. The source material is preachy, to the point of being dragged and burdensome.
And to the one mentioning that Tatami and Eden won awards. Don't forget gundam Seed won an award as well and we know how good it was *sarcasm* Awards are overrated. |
2011-02-04, 14:40 | Link #35 | |
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Hourou Musuko is, for me, the closest thing to what Noitamina should be about, as is Usagi Drop. Intelligent shows, not the same old rubbish you can get anywhere else. |
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2011-02-04, 17:29 | Link #36 | |
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Usagi Drop is much more likely to give the timeslot a boost. Alright, C is Nakamura Kenji, and you'd assume it would lure people in since Mononoke did great, but we know how Kuuchuu Buranko turned out. UsaDro, on the other hand... I can only see the live-action movie as a future success, what with Matsuyama Kenichi and Ishida Mana (probably the most popular child actress right now?) starring. Now the only issue might be whether the audience even realizes an anime is being produced... I sure wonder if it'll get some advertizing in theaters, this might just bring many of the josei watchers back. Ratings for this week are out: 2.1%. Better than the previous three weeks, but still far from being satisfying for the timeslot. I suspect it won't get much higher than this by the end of the season... and the DVD/BD sales aren't even looking bright for both Fractale and Hourou Musuko, are they?
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2011-02-05, 02:55 | Link #37 | |
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I would agree with your little sarcasm for SEED Destiny, though I thought SEED was done very well and remains one of my more enjoyable animes. Of course, everyone's opinion will be different (especially for those who watched the original, since SEED pretty much copied the original's storyline at the beginning). If the ratings do continue like this, hopefully the worst that happens is that Fuji retracts it back to just the one 30 minute timeslot and not cancel it completely. Although I haven't watched a lot of NoitaminA shows, it's still a lot better than most of the typical late night ones that center around cute girls, harems, and all sorts of fanservice as its main draw. At least this block tries to bring in interesting ideas, ideas that you may not even think about until you see a show on there. BTW, I wonder why Fuji TV combines the ratings when they have an hour block of anime. They did the same thing when KochiKame and One Piece were Anime7. To make sure that both shows get the same amount of sponsor money? |
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