2008-10-23, 09:12 | Link #2281 | |
All Hail Lelouch!
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Join Date: May 2008
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This differs greatly from my view of Suzaku before he became nothing more than a plot device who was more concerned with how things got done as oppossed to actually getting them done. |
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2008-10-23, 09:24 | Link #2282 | |
~Hi -mi- tsu des~
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canada
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Lelouch at the end sought atonement through death for the people he has geassed and for the lives he ruined. He planned the Zero Requiem with the best of intentions and died a martyr. While it is questionable if it was to ease his own guilt for the things he has done like Suzaku did in Season one, Lelouch was the one that denounced Suzaku's way of seeking atonement through death. And in the end he made Suzaku live to oversee the world as his atonement. The whole thing just makes me think that it was a very unnatural shift in Lelouch's thinking to reach that point. Another point that I had a problem with, actually a few points, is that while he has ruined and destroyed many lives with his geass, he himself viewed the power in a positive light in the end. That geass was like wishes, and also, believing he had to die for what he has done is almost like denouncing the good he has done with geass as well. Without Zero, the Japanese would not have gotten as far as they had and the UFN would not have been formed. |
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2008-10-23, 10:18 | Link #2283 | |
Emotionless White Face
Join Date: Feb 2008
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What I am curious about is about Lelouch. Some times ago, I said that it would be wrong to create a new hero if they do a sequel, but now I am more open to the idea of a new hero. The only thing that I am sure is that c.c. would be part of it. She is the only Geass Giver that we know about after all, even if IMHO, maybe V.V. and her were not the only Geass Giver in this big world. Last edited by Narona; 2008-10-23 at 10:35. |
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2008-10-23, 11:42 | Link #2284 |
Unashamed Kalulu fan
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NJ
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Personally, as long as Kallen and C.C. are happy, I'm not that particular as to whether Lelouch comes back or not. I do think that if they made a sequel soon after the series, it would make more sense for him to be alive because it would show that he anticipated that a lasting peace would not be made simply w/ his death (I'm sorry, I don't buy that. Malcontents would start showing up before long. It's just human nature.)
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2008-10-23, 11:46 | Link #2285 | ||
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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Since Koshimizu is not around at the moment. Here some infos translated by Celiss Galvea.
The geass.net website was updated and Celiss Translated it. (don't know if it's the mobile or the normal site though.) More "proofs" that lelouch is apparently dead for good. Quote:
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2008-10-23, 11:56 | Link #2287 | |
Emotionless White Face
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Well, there are a LOT more infos (about code geass in general) from Celiss, but I don't know if it's really right to post them here. People should search for a secret forum (I won't give the link) and read what she posted. I will re-read what she translated though, and bring the "most important" infos later. |
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2008-10-23, 11:57 | Link #2288 | |
Srsly ?
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Well, the biggest proof of Lelouch's end is certainly this one
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There, it's pretty much clear. About a new serie with a new here I have an hard time to imagine this; Lelouch was an awesome protagnoist and if there was a new guy, comparaison would never end...but I can see some OAV, about maybe, CC's travelling around the world, or about her time with Mao (I'd like to finally know everything about this part) So, maybe it's not the end for CC, after all she is still alive and immortal, so...
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2008-10-23, 12:02 | Link #2289 | |
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2008-10-23, 12:03 | Link #2290 |
I desire Tomorrow!
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: As far away from reality as possible
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Actually you'd have to ask yourself "who's gonna watch a sequel without Lelouch?" The real question though is "who's gonna buy the merchandise (DVD, figures, etc) afterwards, without Lelouch?" Unlike, say Gundam, the series was successful because of Lelouch. I'd really like seeing them trying to pull a sequel with the characters they have left, in the state they have left them.
Their best chance is with a spin-off. That way, they can use Lelouch again without having to admin being forced to officially raise him from the dead cause the merchandise can't sell as it used to.
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2008-10-23, 12:09 | Link #2291 |
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I'm not sure if I buy the part about Kallen 'shaking off her feelings for Zero,' unless it means only Zero and not Lelouch, otherwise, she wouldn't have tears in her eyes when attacking Lelouch and she wouldn't have been so vehement in being the one to stop Lelouch herself.
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2008-10-23, 12:13 | Link #2292 | |
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When people buy mecha figurines, it's not about lelouch for instance. Code Geass was awesome in many ways. Lelouch is one of the big reasons, but not the only ones. And it's like saying that Okouchi can't create another awesome Code Geass Hero. Personally, I think the man can. |
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2008-10-23, 12:14 | Link #2293 | |
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and do what needs to be done you dont CHOOSE who you love and you cant STOP loving someone by choice but she put her feelsing aside and set out to stop him despite of them
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2008-10-23, 13:08 | Link #2294 | |
~Hi -mi- tsu des~
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Okouchi could create another awesome Code Geass hero, but the inevitable comparisions with Lelouch will always follow. Lelouch is a character that has been pretty firmly ingrained into the Code Geass universe. Look at Shinn Asuka from GSD. He was a fairly interesting character in the begining but the spotlight was stolen by the returning favourites and Kira who was the king of the character polls. While the situations are different in that Lelouch is dead, his popularity in people's minds will still remain. |
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2008-10-23, 13:44 | Link #2296 | |
All Hail Lelouch!
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: In His Majesties Service.
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I'm not saying he's the only reason people watched the show but he was a bloody big part of it. If they do plan to make a sequel and plan to bring back everyone bar Lelouch then it wouldn't be surprising if Sunrise made Taniguchi, Okuchi or whoever pull a retcon for marketings sake. Why pass up the opportunity for increased sales? Credibility? Screw that Sunrise lost that along time ago. |
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2008-10-23, 13:51 | Link #2297 |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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If what okouchi said is true and its up to the fans, then rejoice, im VERY sure we're going to get another series/season.
Personally I dont care what they do, New series without Lelouch?No problem..New season with lelouch somehow alive? No problem. I dont care as long as i get Geass again. |
2008-10-23, 14:05 | Link #2298 |
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I watched CG for the fabulous that was Lelouch. It jsut won't be the same with some new character filling his shoes. And I could care less about Ohgi or Kallen's days in the world of peace. Those guys had ridicilously good endings to boot.
If they decide to make a sequel, it will probably be about something that threatens the fragile world peace. It will probably become way too Gundam 00'ish at that point, but knowing Sunrise... |
2008-10-23, 14:10 | Link #2299 |
Um-Shmum
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what if you have a sequal that pits those characters (suzaku kallen and nunnaly) against a mastermind of lelouch's level who seeks to destroy the peace lelouch created on purpose
i can give you a faint out line of such a world view and villain outline if you want
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2008-10-23, 14:12 | Link #2300 |
I desire Tomorrow!
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So, in hopes of getting over Lelouch, you create a replica, only starting more on the evil side? The comparison won't just be unavoidable, the new character will majorly fail for being a copy.
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