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Sakuya · 2006-10-28, 17:55

Kikuri looks like a beetle because of her huge purple eyes.

By the way, shouldn't this thread now belong in the Fansub area since the first episode has been subbed by Shinsen-Subs already?

dxgarten · 2006-10-29, 01:57

Episode 04 screencaps and summary

Spoiler:

Guido · 2006-10-29, 13:02

For sub watchers, Shinsen has now released their fansub for JS Futakomori episode two.

Guido · 2006-10-29, 18:51

Episode four.

The only thing that I dislike was how easy that pretty face pimp got sent to hell that easily.

Spoiler:

With nothing else to complain, I have to commend the writers and animators for the circumstantial changes made to the plot and characters for season two.

Ai's helpers are more proactive and taking the lead detective roles to investigate any and each of the cases that Ai seems interestingly to pick up or relunctantly to do so.

The little, blue-eyed girl is a bizarre addition to the cast. Exactly what was she pretending to stop Hone-Onna or being in the same room when Shuuichi confronted the pimp before his wife.

Spoiler:

Sakuya · 2006-10-29, 18:54

Spoiler:

molitar · 2006-10-29, 19:52

Watched episode 1 and so far nothing interesting. As well as I hate that sure they deserved it but than the one asking for help will go to hell too. She was practically forced into having to untie the ribbon by having acid pored on her and she now will also go to hell.. hate that storyline already.

suzy223 · 2006-10-29, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guido

Season two starts on October 7, 2006.

Source. Anime News Service

YESS!

I've been waiting so long, too! ^.^

Ai-chan is so cute. ^-^

physics223 · 2006-10-30, 04:13

After watching Animax's trailer for Jigoku Shoujo (its first season, anyway), my interest was once more awaken for this series. I have got to watch it.

Would you like to see what death is like? Creepy. Good.

DSJFX18 · 2006-10-30, 19:00

Ayu have released their first episode of Jigoku Shoujo Futakomori. They seem to be using the same font.

EDIT:

Spoiler:

wrex_japan · 2006-11-04, 09:49

Jigoku Shoujo Futakomori, ep. 5 screencaps and summary. More Kikuri, Wanyuudo gets both philosophical and kicks some ass, the requester and target is not quite what Ai's helpers expect, and the ending is quite satisfying (to me, at least).

Guido · 2006-11-05, 13:17

I was more than disgusted with the biker character. No, I did want to get at his throat and strangle him.

I do have read kj1980's posts about the sh*t that happens in Japan regardinG ijime, but it's been a while since it was so reaslistically portrayed in anime with such violent brutality.

Elfen Lied was the first one that I watched scenes involving ijime in an anime. And moreso when the Leon jack**s burned the dog's face with the lighter

But I do not really think that in Japan any type of bullies would actually go to that extent to make such a vicious, violent scene in public or do they shamelessly do so, as if was portrayed in this JS Futakomori episode?

After all, there was indeed a moral explicitly showcased and explained courtesy of Wanyuudou. We as people must have to learn to improve our attitude and not taking anything that comes in life as granted. Sure being miserable and treating others like thrash, unfortunately, forms part of the darker aspect of human nature. However, it is a disgrace that the mainstream population in general as of this age views that bringing misery and venting their troubles to others is a right to justify their actions.

I strongly hold that both the otaku and the girl Izumi actually were the ones who learned the lesson and advocated to their system of morals:
1. The otaku because he knows that everday life in Japan there would be other bullies much worse than Leon was. It doesn't matter had he used the Jigoku Tsusshin on the bastard, anyways his hell won't end because another bully will surely come to fill Leon's place and the vicious cycle will start over. All much done about nothing, because at the end the otaku will end up in hell as well.
However, the otaku did not go all the way with the deal because 1) he understands well his situation and bullies like Leon just come and go, therefore, it is a waste to damn himself for the type of thrash that Leon represents, 2) even if it was for fear on becoming damned, the otaku does holds reverence for hell and the afterlife because he BELIEVES, and 3) the otaku did get his revenge on Leon simply by watching him agonize, though he did not stay to watch him die, but witnessing how the motherfuc*** ended up in a helpless and pathetic state that he brought upon himself due to being a jerk and refused to give him help, but instead gave to him the cold eye followed by a cold shoulder.

2. Izumi because she has manners and takes respect for the elder's advice. Her easygoing life after the ordeal made her forget for a moment her near calamity, but after Wanyuudou spoke to her that God and Enma always watch her actions, she quickly understood and felt embarrassed for her actions, apologized, corrected her attitude, and righted her wrongdoing because she also BELIEVES.

But, I'm slightly surprised that no one made mentioned of Kikuri's non-vocal theme song. It sounded like a cute but creepy-killer, baby lullaby.

wrex_japan · 2006-11-06, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guido

I was more than disgusted with the biker character. No, I did want to get at his throat and strangle him.

I do have read kj1980's posts about the sh*t that happens in Japan regardinG ijime, but it's been a while since it was so reaslistically portrayed in anime with such violent brutality.

Elfen Lied was the first one that I watched scenes involving ijime in an anime. And moreso when the Leon jack**s burned the dog's face with the lighter

But I do not really think that in Japan any type of bullies would actually go to that extent to make such a vicious, violent scene in public or do they shamelessly do so, as if was portrayed in this JS Futakomori episode?

I don't know if it happens in public (I've never seen such a thing myself), but it happens in school. Just recently there was a student who sent letters to the Education Ministry threatening to commit suicide on Saturday if nothing was done. He (they believe it's a boy) wrote letters addressed the the Ministry, his fellow classmates, and his teachers about the bullying. He wrote things like, "why do you bully me? Because I smell? Because I'm gross?" and to the teacher, "When you tell me things like, 'just try to take it' it's the same as you're bullying me. Why don't you try to help me?"

Enma Ai · 2006-11-07, 22:17

well i just seen the 5 raw episode of this anime,i just finish the 1st season.so anyone have seen the next episode?mind give me some hint for the next episode.

stevency · 2006-11-10, 13:46

Episode 5 by far is the best episode for Fukakomori IMO.

I can see the reason on why Wanyuudou rocks from the three dolls, an wise elder who comments both here(where we live) and there(hell) are both hell, where here was mainly created by the evilness of our soul[thus the Ai's judgement poem] and there are the god's punishment[the harsh punishment world after hell gate].

It's ture that episode five goes more profound then before.

Guido, what you said above is really how the story crafter of Jigoku Shoujo project really wants/tried to tell us above.

wrex_japan · 2006-11-11, 08:56

Ep. 6 screencaps and summary. A sick boy wishes to protect the girl he loves, but can he do it? Kikuri doesn't have much screen time, but uses the time to insult two of Ai's helpers.

Jewelray · 2006-11-12, 18:16

Episode 4

Spoiler:

raspberihevn · 2006-11-13, 21:02

My take on this:
This season is different... hmm I'm not sure how to put it.
The episode begins with explanations of Emma Ai's character.
And Emma as "Hell Girl" acts kinda weird, unlike her usual aloof personality.
I'm not sure if this type of portrayal is done on purpose or someone at the Writing Dept goofed...
What are your thoughts?

wrex_japan · 2006-11-13, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by raspberihevn

My take on this:
This season is different... hmm I'm not sure how to put it.
The episode begins with explanations of Emma Ai's character.
And Emma as "Hell Girl" acts kinda weird, unlike her usual aloof personality.
I'm not sure if this type of portrayal is done on purpose or someone at the Writing Dept goofed...
What are your thoughts?

I'm sure Enma Ai has changed after her encounter with Hajime and Tsugumi and remembering what actually happened to her. It also seems to me that she's hiding something or may be planning something, which won't be revealed till near the end of this season. I want to know what part Kikuri will actually have in all this.

wrex_japan · 2006-11-18, 09:24

Ep. 7 screencaps and summary. A story of how one family member can tear everyone apart despite everyone else's best efforts. Also, this episode shows how you can inherit the Hell contract...

Guido · 2006-11-18, 13:34

Why Enma Ai turned down Souta's, the stalker, request was because he had plenty of chances to avert or prevent the ominous calamity that befell to Kiwako, yet he could not help himself to gather courage in order to speak to her directly.

Episode six reveals that there are many circumstances, for example Souta's, which do not require the need for the victimized to resort to the Jigoku Tsuushin as long as 1) they can do something through their own terms to avert a wrongdoing with time, and 2) the wrongdoing has NOT taken place yet.

This episode shows Hone Onna's the more compassionate side of her personality than her usual Jigoku Tsuushin demeanor. Most like she indirectly attempted to help Souta to sort out his feelings to Kiwako, but he failed.
Had he talked to warn Kiwako through the phone conversation, Kiwako would have never been raped and, therefore, saved from going to hell.

What I liked the most about episode six were the frame cut from one scene to another, especially the last one at the very end when Souta stepped from the shadows with a bulge on the right pocket of his jacket, as he readies to confront the bastard that raped Kiwako.
That final scene was very much emphasized with the Jigoku song played as the viewer watched Souta's every movement, and one could feel the climax building but suddenly the scene blacks out and switches to the ED of a sudden leaving the audience with a cliffhanger of what was about to unfold.

2006-10-29, 01:57	Link #62
dxgarten Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Episode 04 screencaps and summary Spoiler: I was amused to see the noodle-slurping action from Wanyuudou. That's something you'd normally see in cooking series like Yakitate!! Japan or Addicted to Curry

2006-10-29, 18:51	Link #64
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Episode four. The only thing that I dislike was how easy that pretty face pimp got sent to hell that easily. Spoiler: A more substantial torture would have been witnessing helplessly how his face gradually rots as madness and despair builds on him step by step, climaxing with him snapping that he turned into such an ugly motherfu** while Ai ferries him to the boat at the same time. With nothing else to complain, I have to commend the writers and animators for the circumstantial changes made to the plot and characters for season two. Ai's helpers are more proactive and taking the lead detective roles to investigate any and each of the cases that Ai seems interestingly to pick up or relunctantly to do so. The little, blue-eyed girl is a bizarre addition to the cast. Exactly what was she pretending to stop Hone-Onna or being in the same room when Shuuichi confronted the pimp before his wife. Spoiler**: Like someone else posted, I agree she's interfering with Ai and her helpers. She may have had a hand to ensure that Shuuichi had pulled the string. Many are starting to discuss she's coveting Ai's position to be the next Hell Girl, and the reason Ai allows the interference is because she's tired to be the Hell Girl (having regained her memories in the previous season). I'm formulating a suspicion that maybe or not blue-eyes had something to do with Tsugumis' visions about Ai in season one. She could deliberately had sent them to Tsugumi, so that ensuring Hajime to interfere anytime and made Ai to fail and have her kicked out. Or maybe or not she staged those visions on the Shibata girl for the greater purpose to have them unknowingly recovered back on Ai her memories and using her lingering grudge for the Shibatas to have herself get thrown to hell, as a quick way to dispose her.

2006-10-29, 18:54	Link #65
Sakuya Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Age: 35	Spoiler: Do you think the title, Futakomori or as Shinsen translates it, "The Two Prisoners", relate to Ai and Kikuri? I mean Ai is sort of a prisoner for what she did and maybe Kikuri is a new prisoner of some sort? Although, her eyes just creep me out.

2006-10-30, 04:13	Link #68
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	After watching Animax's trailer for Jigoku Shoujo (its first season, anyway), my interest was once more awaken for this series. I have got to watch it. Would you like to see what death is like? Creepy. Good. __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-10-30, 19:00	Link #69
DSJFX18 Destiny Join Date: Feb 2006	Ayu have released their first episode of Jigoku Shoujo Futakomori. They seem to be using the same font. EDIT: Spoiler: Ok so I finally got about watching the 2nd episode's raw or more like skimming through it, and I came across the part where Ai was playing with the ball. Omg she is just so cute.. lol and falling into water ain't exactly what you will expect from the Jigoku Shoujo. - Ojou, time for work. (I think.) - You saw? - Saw what? turns around. -Nothing.. Last edited by DSJFX18; 2006-10-31 at 00:23.*

2006-10-28, 17:55	Link #61
Sakuya Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Age: 35	Kikuri looks like a beetle because of her huge purple eyes. By the way, shouldn't this thread now belong in the Fansub area since the first episode has been subbed by Shinsen-Subs already?

2006-10-29, 13:02	Link #63
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	For sub watchers, Shinsen has now released their fansub for JS Futakomori episode two.

2006-10-29, 19:52	Link #66
molitar Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	Watched episode 1 and so far nothing interesting. As well as I hate that sure they deserved it but than the one asking for help will go to hell too. She was practically forced into having to untie the ribbon by having acid pored on her and she now will also go to hell.. hate that storyline already.

2006-11-04, 09:49	Link #70
wrex_japan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan	Jigoku Shoujo Futakomori, ep. 5 Jigoku Shoujo Futakomori, ep. 5 screencaps and summary. More Kikuri, Wanyuudo gets both philosophical and kicks some ass, the requester and target is not quite what Ai's helpers expect, and the ending is quite satisfying (to me, at least).

2006-11-05, 13:17	Link #71
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Speedway to Hell I was more than disgusted with the biker character. No, I did want to get at his throat and strangle him. I do have read kj1980's posts about the sht that happens in Japan regardinG ijime, but it's been a while since it was so reaslistically portrayed in anime with such violent brutality. Elfen Lied was the first one that I watched scenes involving ijime in an anime. And moreso when the Leon jacks burned the dog's face with the lighter But I do not really think that in Japan any type of bullies would actually go to that extent to make such a vicious, violent scene in public or do they shamelessly do so, as if was portrayed in this JS Futakomori episode? After all, there was indeed a moral explicitly showcased and explained courtesy of Wanyuudou. We as people must have to learn to improve our attitude and not taking anything that comes in life as granted. Sure being miserable and treating others like thrash, unfortunately, forms part of the darker aspect of human nature. However, it is a disgrace that the mainstream population in general as of this age views that bringing misery and venting their troubles to others is a right to justify their actions. I strongly hold that both the otaku and the girl Izumi actually were the ones who learned the lesson and advocated to their system of morals: 1. The otaku because he knows that everday life in Japan there would be other bullies much worse than Leon was. It doesn't matter had he used the Jigoku Tsusshin on the bastard, anyways his hell won't end because another bully will surely come to fill Leon's place and the vicious cycle will start over. All much done about nothing, because at the end the otaku will end up in hell as well. However, the otaku did not go all the way with the deal because 1) he understands well his situation and bullies like Leon just come and go, therefore, it is a waste to damn himself for the type of thrash that Leon represents, 2) even if it was for fear on becoming damned, the otaku does holds reverence for hell and the afterlife because he BELIEVES, and 3) the otaku did get his revenge on Leon simply by watching him agonize, though he did not stay to watch him die, but witnessing how the motherfuc** ended up in a helpless and pathetic state that he brought upon himself due to being a jerk and refused to give him help, but instead gave to him the cold eye followed by a cold shoulder. 2. Izumi because she has manners and takes respect for the elder's advice. Her easygoing life after the ordeal made her forget for a moment her near calamity, but after Wanyuudou spoke to her that God and Enma always watch her actions, she quickly understood and felt embarrassed for her actions, apologized, corrected her attitude, and righted her wrongdoing because she also BELIEVES. But, I'm slightly surprised that no one made mentioned of Kikuri's non-vocal theme song. It sounded like a cute but creepy-killer, baby lullaby.

2006-11-07, 22:17	Link #73
Enma Ai Jigoku Shoujo Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: somewhere in this world Age: 38	well i just seen the 5 raw episode of this anime,i just finish the 1st season.so anyone have seen the next episode?mind give me some hint for the next episode.

2006-11-10, 13:46	Link #74
stevency To kill or be killed?! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: City of nightmare	Episode 5 by far is the best episode for Fukakomori IMO. I can see the reason on why Wanyuudou rocks from the three dolls, an wise elder who comments both here(where we live) and there(hell) are both hell, where here was mainly created by the evilness of our soul[thus the Ai's judgement poem] and there are the god's punishment[the harsh punishment world after hell gate]. It's ture that episode five goes more profound then before. Guido, what you said above is really how the story crafter of Jigoku Shoujo project really wants/tried to tell us above.

2006-11-11, 08:56	Link #75
wrex_japan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan	Jigoku Shoujo Futakomori, ep. 6 Ep. 6 screencaps and summary. A sick boy wishes to protect the girl he loves, but can he do it? Kikuri doesn't have much screen time, but uses the time to insult two of Ai's helpers.

2006-11-12, 18:16	Link #76
Jewelray Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NJ	Episode 4 Spoiler: If I am remembering correctly, this is only the second time that christinaity has been brought up (the other was the doll maker episode, I think). I was hoping that the episode would make more of it, since they spent a good minute focusing on the wife's cross. But at least with the two episode involving christians it does seem to say that christianty is not as compatible with jigoku tsuushin as shinto/Buddhism is, which makes sense. It seemed to me that the little girl was mocking the jesus statue, which was very creepy...

2006-11-13, 21:02	Link #77
raspberihevn Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: So-cal, USA Age: 43	My take on this: This season is different... hmm I'm not sure how to put it. The episode begins with explanations of Emma Ai's character. And Emma as "Hell Girl" acts kinda weird, unlike her usual aloof personality. I'm not sure if this type of portrayal is done on purpose or someone at the Writing Dept goofed... What are your thoughts?

2006-11-18, 09:24	Link #79
wrex_japan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan	Jigoku Shoujo Futakomori ep. 7 Ep. 7 screencaps and summary. A story of how one family member can tear everyone apart despite everyone else's best efforts. Also, this episode shows how you can inherit the Hell contract...

2006-11-18, 13:34	Link #80
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	When the Sun Shines Why Enma Ai turned down Souta's, the stalker, request was because he had plenty of chances to avert or prevent the ominous calamity that befell to Kiwako, yet he could not help himself to gather courage in order to speak to her directly. Episode six reveals that there are many circumstances, for example Souta's, which do not require the need for the victimized to resort to the Jigoku Tsuushin as long as 1) they can do something through their own terms to avert a wrongdoing with time, and 2) the wrongdoing has NOT taken place yet. This episode shows Hone Onna's the more compassionate side of her personality than her usual Jigoku Tsuushin demeanor. Most like she indirectly attempted to help Souta to sort out his feelings to Kiwako, but he failed. Had he talked to warn Kiwako through the phone conversation, Kiwako would have never been raped and, therefore, saved from going to hell. What I liked the most about episode six were the frame cut from one scene to another, especially the last one at the very end when Souta stepped from the shadows with a bulge on the right pocket of his jacket, as he readies to confront the bastard that raped Kiwako. That final scene was very much emphasized with the Jigoku song played as the viewer watched Souta's every movement, and one could feel the climax building but suddenly the scene blacks out and switches to the ED of a sudden leaving the audience with a cliffhanger of what was about to unfold.