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The difference is that Nina would never have forgiven herself if she hadn't done something to make up for her mistakes.
Not to mention that she always felt "useless". She needed a purpose, and Lelouch needed her so badly for his plans that he was forced to risk being betrayed by her for "revenge".
Lelouch was also afraid that Nunally might suffer after Zero Requiem because of her "sins", but then realized that his sister was a much stronger person than even he could have imagined. Therefore, he could go through with his plan and "properly" push her away.
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That may be fine, but it still does not change the fact. There are countless ways for Nina to redeem herself and not every single one of them involves her going through the demon's gate to get it. Lelouch used the fact that she wanted to redeem herself, he love for Euphemia, to build the Anti-Fleija Lance of Longinus. We're forgetting Rivalz, who was used as well. Did he have something to make up for by being turned into a delivery boy?
Lelouch was afraid she might suffer? He thought she was dead, and after he said he was doing it for everyone not just her. When he confronted her he used her (Geass) to get Damocles. It was all towards his end, he still used her. The fact that she then wouldn't take any of the blame is fine, but that was not her wish. She wanted her brother. To be noted that he had little choice with Nunally but to use her. But when it comes down to it, Lelouch's plan was his top priority and that brings us full circle. If it was his top priority, and he was using everyone to achieve it, why does he not use Kallen? It doesn't matter how certain he is in Suzaku, that is still a gambit leaving the other most powerful entity on the battlefield on the otherside.
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Originally Posted by Nogitsune
And that's certainly one reason why he didn't tell her.
She would have been torn between her obvious love for Lelouch and her loyalty to Zero, and would probably have felt guilty no matter what she did.
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And that's the point. She's an invaluable asset but he doesn't tell her because she'd be broken by it.
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But Lelouch had Suzaku, and there is nothing that can stop them if they work together. ;P
They both firmly believed in that.
Not to mention that it was enough that Suzaku had to kill his best friend. Lelouch didn't need to do the same to Kallen.
He knew that she had seen too much death and destruction in her life already. And I think that's one thing that clearly sets her apart from Rivalz and Milly, who were good people, but still grew up sheltered.
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Which is why Suzaku lost, and Kallen would have killed Lelouch if she didn't hesitate, and their entire ordeal was forced into a split second endevour because their line was breaking because of Kallen. This seems real certain, doesn't it? He won on a gambit, making it a risk to not include Kallen who did the most to deter his plans. That's a rather high risk, the world, just because you don't want to make someone feel guilty.
I'll also ask, since when has Lelouch cared about the guilt of others? I don't remember him having much of a problem with pushing Kallen forward before when she was also his friend. Why does it suddenly do a dime-turn now?
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I think Kallen is just the type of girl that sends Lelouch into protective-mode. Just like Euphy, Shirley and even C.C. in her innocent moments.
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You'd think that wouldn't need to apply to someone like Kallen whom he did not get a protective mode around in the first season because she was more than capable. There's a clear evolution here.
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Yes, but as far as I know, C.C. just repeated what Marianne had told her.
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The part that I am referring to was C.C. quoting Lelouch's methods, not Marianne.
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Freud's logic is a very strange one. xD
Not to mention that desperate!Lelouch would probably have jumped Rolo, too, if Kallen hadn't been around.
Errr... but let's just leave it at that. xD
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Ya... let's.
Maybe even Arthur would have needed to look out.
