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00-Raiser · 2012-05-09, 18:26

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Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

What, don't you like one-dimensional villains, Raiser?

Depends on the dimension. An annoying little shit like Desil isn't fun to watch like Gilgamesh is. The Hucks are more in line with the latter.

Akiyoshi · 2012-05-09, 19:31

I had to agree with Raiser despite not having any idea of who that Desil guy is. The Hucks seems pretty Gilgamesh-like in the fact they're prone to gloat about pretty much anything and treating anyone else like worthless trash. This is specially true in the cases of Cypha and Curren, Veyron seems to be less prone to this practice, Stella do it in a comical way and Arnage seems to be pretty humble about making her best effort instead of rubbing her "invincibleness" on other people's faces.

Cypha's treatement of Quinn further confirms how much she enjoys being a douche to whoever she thinks she can beat. Her constant trolling seems to lessen a bit when she faces opponents or situations she thinks could grow beyond her control. I'm still waiting to see her behavior when faced by an actually superior adversary (the Big Bad perhaps?) and finds herself helpless to change the incoming result. Gilgamesh went nuts or sarcastically cynic the rare times he actually ends up bested and killed.

It will be at least entertaining to see how a confident and invincible smug super will react once faced with the incoming gut-wrenching shame of failure and defeat.

Lhklan · 2012-05-09, 19:48

Well, in Gilgamesh case, he's actually have the power and the title to back it up. He's just too arrogant most of the time.
As for shame of failure and defeat, two scenarios can happen:
1 The idealistic one: The villain join the good guy side, either because she realise she's on the wrong side (unlikely) or to find out how they got so strong (still unlikely, but more plausible than the other)
2 The realise/pessimistic one: She goes batsh*t insane and become obsessed with defeating whoever beat her.

bhl88 · 2012-05-09, 20:44

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Originally Posted by Lhklan

2 The realise/pessimistic one: She goes batsh*t insane and become obsessed with defeating whoever beat her.

Quinn will probably be the #2 without the insanity.

LostSome · 2012-05-09, 23:34

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Originally Posted by bhl88

Quinn will probably be the #2 without the insanity.

No harem comment ?

The brain bomb is one way it could end for Quinn... I don`t think Marky knew about it and now the Grandels are officially working for VC.

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I also fiund that a little farfetched but i foprgive them that scene cause we finally got to have some details about how Eclipse Powers actually work xDU.

Glad to know that S6 learned so much on their own while studying Thoma...
Are they still THAT clueless after all this time ?

bhl88 · 2012-05-10, 00:47

Actually the harem part is a bonus after staying with Touma for a long time

Akiyoshi · 2012-05-22, 13:47

Finally, record 24- Part 1 has been translated in spanish. And here i am again posting the corresponding summary, let's begin with this...

Spoiler for Saving Private Signum:

Chapter 24:

- Starts with Signum doing what she likes to do the most: a high-ground knight speech (never learns huh xDU?). She tells Cypha and Quinn that aside of being criminals they're also patients in need of medical attention of the disease that harms them and others around them and also acknowledge the inner dispute they have inside themselves due to it. Cypha dismisses Quinn as being the same as her calling her brat and an enemy which offends the Grendel swordswoman.
- Signum counter-dismisses that as saying both are EC infected and that she wants to hear more of their ideology on the TSAB's interrogation room. At the same time she readies her AEC-Equipement and enters unison with Agito (a different kind of unison since there's no flame wings and her outer jacket is still there). Finally she ask them one last time to drop their weapons and surrender so they can receive the proper medical treatement. Cypha being Cypha snarkly refuses, Quinn calls on Tohma for keep hugging her implying he's taking advantage of his position on the TSAB to do so. Tohma apologizes and then carries Quinn bridal style xDU. The boy acknowledges Signum's orders and tells her and Cypha to take care, Signum tells him he can reach to Alto's helicopter if he leaves now.
- Before Tohma leaves, Signum tells Cypha she's only gonna arrest her, Cypha answers Curren ordered them to not kill Section Six members for now but personally she still consider it's a good idea to disable them...

-Record 24: Grendel (III) - Part 1-
Cover: Erio and Teana riding on a motorbike
(again, no comments, seems they stopped doing it)

-Isis pursues Maria from the sky while the former runs trough rooftops(seems she's unable to fly). Isis says she's escaping but Maria reveals she's just reaching a good sniping point. At which point she turns back, immediately aim for multiple targets and shoot a wide barrage of living ammo calling Isis a fool for thinking she can counter attack from such a long distance the explosions are seen everywhere.
- After the attack Maria ask Quinn if the stupid girl is still alive, Quinn answer surprised that she in fact survived the attack, Maria didn't have time to do nothing as a perfume attack (No. 24 "Mine Cook") lands over her and explodes. Isis confirmed target's leg injury and prepares for capture while admitting she managed to prevent and escape the attack thanks the the hard trainning she received on Section Six. Alto managed to maneuver outside the bullets range and Lily separated from Tohma and shielded him from the attack. Isis mentions she can demonstrate to her intructor the size of the chest have nothing to do with victory xD!
- Alto confirms Maria and Quinn are captured aboard the helicopter and guarded by the Force Trio. Cinque says the leader and the deliverer will be captured soon.
- Carter and Lolo notices another veihcule pursuing them at great speed, it's Erio riding a motorcicly with Teana behind him and reading the AEC-06X "Ochstan" to fire. Carter laughs it off due to the distance and the fact he can counter ranged attacks. teana fires the "Variable Cannon" mode and three bolts are shot. Carter activates his Divider Break power to deflect them but only one bolt was stopped while the other two avoided him and managed to hit the truck causing it to go out of control and crashing on the contention wall. Teana orders to stop the criminals from above and chapter ends.

Continue on Record 24 - Part 2...

We have a short half-chapter this time whic more or less consist on clean the scenario for Signum and Cypha's rematch on next part. It's good to see the training pays off, ironically Isis and Lily shown more proficency than Tohma during this fight, being ablet to thwart and capture Maria very quickly. The Ochstan looks ok for Teana (as i said she's the best suited to have big techy guns xD) and si kind of a fancy shotgun appearance-like.

At the end of the day the Grendels ended up as a super powered Team rocket xDU The goofy villains able to cause annoyance but that are leagues far below the actual bad guys xDU So far Carter seems to be the only one with fair chances in a battle against a Huck. Let's see what happens when Caro tries to secure him and Lolo.

As for the upcoming battle there are positive and negative points. The good thing is that Cypha will use Quinn's divider to replace just one of her swords, she still going to dueal wield and use one of her orignal reacted blades in battle. The lame part comes with the fact Cypha mentioned she has been forbidden by Curron from killing Signum which means she'll fight handicapped ...which means it's another reason to undermine Signum's possible victory in the rare case she comes out on top. So yeah, my hype for this re-match has decreased a little xDU

There's no worth in defeating Cypha if she's not fighting seriously, so i hope Signum at least manage to push har into going full psycho again.

LostSome · 2012-05-22, 15:27

"Alto confirms Maria and Quinn are captured aboard the helicopter and guarded by the Force Trio. Cinque says the leader and the deliverer will be captured soon."

In a helicopter ? That`s such a good idea...

I think I saw too much movies.

Justin_Brett · 2012-05-22, 15:33

>attempting to persuade the same criminal you beat the shit out of before without provocation

Shit Signum, what are you doing

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Alto confirms Maria and Quinn are captured aboard the helicopter and guarded by the Force Trio. Cinque says the leader and the deliverer will be captured soon.

Shouldn't their fight be halfway over now, then? One second Touma's just standing there with the criminal, and then bam, they're on transport outta there?

bhl88 · 2012-05-22, 21:00

lol looks like Quinn's on the way to being the #1 harem member XD (Bridal carry lol)

Justin_Brett · 2012-05-23, 15:33

I kinda doubt Cypha is going to follow those orders for very long, also, especially if Signum pisses her off, which seems likely.

00-Raiser · 2012-05-23, 17:06

She spared Quinn because Thoma asked her nicely. Why wouldn't she listen to Curren ordering her not to kill anyone?

LostSome · 2012-05-23, 17:16

lol Signum is the one that lost her cool last time...
Besides, you don`t pissed off Cypha... It`s the other way around !

Something will go wrong... It just has to be. A flawless victory without the Aces ? Unimaginable !

Key Board · 2012-05-23, 17:32

If it's anything like SRW's Oxtongue/Ochstan riffle (and it probably is)

it can switch between solid physical rounds and beam firing mode (magic)

Akiyoshi · 2012-05-23, 17:43

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Originally Posted by LostSome

lol Signum is the one that lost her cool last time...

Pretty much, hope she learned something about that experiece (doubtfull since she's still making claims of superiority towards Cypha, seems Signum will never learn to be humble in battle xDU).

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Originally Posted by LostSome

Besides, you don`t pissed off Cypha... It`s the other way around !

I lost track here, wht do you mean by this o.o?

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Originally Posted by LostSome

Something will go wrong... It just has to be.

I know, chances for Signum to screw up this are pretty high both plot and powerwise xDU

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Originally Posted by LostSome

A flawless victory without the Aces ? Unimaginable !

Nah, not even the Aces have managed to score descicive victories in this season, let alone "flawless", let's see:

- Nanoha got trounced by Tohma.
- Fate was unable to deal solid damage or achieve any important progress against either Cypha and Deville.
- Hayate just met her superior counterpart xDU

00-Raiser · 2012-05-23, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

- Nanoha got trounced by Tohma.

Perhaps you should look up the definition of 'trounced.'

Akiyoshi · 2012-05-23, 18:02

If getting all of your attacks easilly shrugged off and your shiny upgrades being torn appart one by one until left you totally defensless and at the mercy of the opponent doesn't count as "trounced" then yeah, there's something wrong with my definition of the concept xDU

00-Raiser · 2012-05-23, 18:15

What happened to Signum would be closer to the definition of 'trounced.'

Akiyoshi · 2012-05-23, 18:18

More like Signum is an exaggerated example. Nanoha got trounced while Signum got utter-trounced (or r**ed if you want to save words xDU).

00-Raiser · 2012-05-23, 18:25

You're just going to have to take my word for it, Aki. A trouncing is not what you think it is. Thoma didn't even defeat Nanoha, let alone trounce her.

2012-05-09, 19:31	Link #6122
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	I had to agree with Raiser despite not having any idea of who that Desil guy is. The Hucks seems pretty Gilgamesh-like in the fact they're prone to gloat about pretty much anything and treating anyone else like worthless trash. This is specially true in the cases of Cypha and Curren, Veyron seems to be less prone to this practice, Stella do it in a comical way and Arnage seems to be pretty humble about making her best effort instead of rubbing her "invincibleness" on other people's faces. Cypha's treatement of Quinn further confirms how much she enjoys being a douche to whoever she thinks she can beat. Her constant trolling seems to lessen a bit when she faces opponents or situations she thinks could grow beyond her control. I'm still waiting to see her behavior when faced by an actually superior adversary (the Big Bad perhaps?) and finds herself helpless to change the incoming result. Gilgamesh went nuts or sarcastically cynic the rare times he actually ends up bested and killed. It will be at least entertaining to see how a confident and invincible smug super will react once faced with the incoming gut-wrenching shame of failure and defeat. __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-05-10, 00:47	Link #6126
bhl88 Otaku Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Unseen Horizon	Actually the harem part is a bonus after staying with Touma for a long time __________________ OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3

2012-05-22, 13:47	Link #6127
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	Finally, record 24- Part 1 has been translated in spanish. And here i am again posting the corresponding summary, let's begin with this... Spoiler for Saving Private Signum: Chapter 24: - Starts with Signum doing what she likes to do the most: a high-ground knight speech (never learns huh xDU?). She tells Cypha and Quinn that aside of being criminals they're also patients in need of medical attention of the disease that harms them and others around them and also acknowledge the inner dispute they have inside themselves due to it. Cypha dismisses Quinn as being the same as her calling her brat and an enemy which offends the Grendel swordswoman. - Signum counter-dismisses that as saying both are EC infected and that she wants to hear more of their ideology on the TSAB's interrogation room. At the same time she readies her AEC-Equipement and enters unison with Agito (a different kind of unison since there's no flame wings and her outer jacket is still there). Finally she ask them one last time to drop their weapons and surrender so they can receive the proper medical treatement. Cypha being Cypha snarkly refuses, Quinn calls on Tohma for keep hugging her implying he's taking advantage of his position on the TSAB to do so. Tohma apologizes and then carries Quinn bridal style xDU. The boy acknowledges Signum's orders and tells her and Cypha to take care, Signum tells him he can reach to Alto's helicopter if he leaves now. - Before Tohma leaves, Signum tells Cypha she's only gonna arrest her, Cypha answers Curren ordered them to not kill Section Six members for now but personally she still consider it's a good idea to disable them... -Record 24: Grendel (III) - Part 1- Cover: Erio and Teana riding on a motorbike (again, no comments, seems they stopped doing it) -Isis pursues Maria from the sky while the former runs trough rooftops(seems she's unable to fly). Isis says she's escaping but Maria reveals she's just reaching a good sniping point. At which point she turns back, immediately aim for multiple targets and shoot a wide barrage of living ammo calling Isis a fool for thinking she can counter attack from such a long distance the explosions are seen everywhere. - After the attack Maria ask Quinn if the stupid girl is still alive, Quinn answer surprised that she in fact survived the attack, Maria didn't have time to do nothing as a perfume attack (No. 24 "Mine Cook") lands over her and explodes. Isis confirmed target's leg injury and prepares for capture while admitting she managed to prevent and escape the attack thanks the the hard trainning she received on Section Six. Alto managed to maneuver outside the bullets range and Lily separated from Tohma and shielded him from the attack. Isis mentions she can demonstrate to her intructor the size of the chest have nothing to do with victory xD! - Alto confirms Maria and Quinn are captured aboard the helicopter and guarded by the Force Trio. Cinque says the leader and the deliverer will be captured soon. - Carter and Lolo notices another veihcule pursuing them at great speed, it's Erio riding a motorcicly with Teana behind him and reading the AEC-06X "Ochstan" to fire. Carter laughs it off due to the distance and the fact he can counter ranged attacks. teana fires the "Variable Cannon" mode and three bolts are shot. Carter activates his Divider Break power to deflect them but only one bolt was stopped while the other two avoided him and managed to hit the truck causing it to go out of control and crashing on the contention wall. Teana orders to stop the criminals from above and chapter ends. Continue on Record 24 - Part 2... We have a short half-chapter this time whic more or less consist on clean the scenario for Signum and Cypha's rematch on next part. It's good to see the training pays off, ironically Isis and Lily shown more proficency than Tohma during this fight, being ablet to thwart and capture Maria very quickly. The Ochstan looks ok for Teana (as i said she's the best suited to have big techy guns xD) and si kind of a fancy shotgun appearance-like. At the end of the day the Grendels ended up as a super powered Team rocket xDU The goofy villains able to cause annoyance but that are leagues far below the actual bad guys xDU So far Carter seems to be the only one with fair chances in a battle against a Huck. Let's see what happens when Caro tries to secure him and Lolo. As for the upcoming battle there are positive and negative points. The good thing is that Cypha will use Quinn's divider to replace just one of her swords, she still going to dueal wield and use one of her orignal reacted blades in battle. The lame part comes with the fact Cypha mentioned she has been forbidden by Curron from killing Signum which means she'll fight handicapped ...which means it's another reason to undermine Signum's possible victory in the rare case she comes out on top. So yeah, my hype for this re-match has decreased a little xDU There's no worth in defeating Cypha if she's not fighting seriously, so i hope Signum at least manage to push har into going full psycho again. __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-05-22, 15:27	Link #6128
LostSome Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada	"Alto confirms Maria and Quinn are captured aboard the helicopter and guarded by the Force Trio. Cinque says the leader and the deliverer will be captured soon." In a helicopter ? That`s such a good idea... I think I saw too much movies. __________________ Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins. You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ? -Old geezer.

2012-05-22, 21:00	Link #6130
bhl88 Otaku Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Unseen Horizon	lol looks like Quinn's on the way to being the #1 harem member XD (Bridal carry lol) __________________ OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3

2012-05-09, 19:48	Link #6123
Lhklan The Unpronounceable Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Clock Tower	Well, in Gilgamesh case, he's actually have the power and the title to back it up. He's just too arrogant most of the time. As for shame of failure and defeat, two scenarios can happen: 1 The idealistic one: The villain join the good guy side, either because she realise she's on the wrong side (unlikely) or to find out how they got so strong (still unlikely, but more plausible than the other) 2 The realise/pessimistic one: She goes batsh*t insane and become obsessed with defeating whoever beat her.

2012-05-23, 15:33	Link #6131
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	I kinda doubt Cypha is going to follow those orders for very long, also, especially if Signum pisses her off, which seems likely.

2012-05-23, 17:06	Link #6132
00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	She spared Quinn because Thoma asked her nicely. Why wouldn't she listen to Curren ordering her not to kill anyone? __________________

2012-05-23, 17:16	Link #6133
LostSome Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada	lol Signum is the one that lost her cool last time... Besides, you don`t pissed off Cypha... It`s the other way around ! Something will go wrong... It just has to be. A flawless victory without the Aces ? Unimaginable ! __________________ Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins. You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ? -Old geezer.

2012-05-23, 17:32	Link #6134
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	If it's anything like SRW's Oxtongue/Ochstan riffle (and it probably is) it can switch between solid physical rounds and beam firing mode (magic) __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2012-05-23, 18:02	Link #6137
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	If getting all of your attacks easilly shrugged off and your shiny upgrades being torn appart one by one until left you totally defensless and at the mercy of the opponent doesn't count as "trounced" then yeah, there's something wrong with my definition of the concept xDU __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2012-05-23, 18:15	Link #6138
00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	What happened to Signum would be closer to the definition of 'trounced.' __________________

2012-05-23, 18:18	Link #6139
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	More like Signum is an exaggerated example. Nanoha got trounced while Signum got utter-trounced (or red if you want to save words xDU). __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~**

2012-05-23, 18:25	Link #6140
00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	You're just going to have to take my word for it, Aki. A trouncing is not what you think it is. Thoma didn't even defeat Nanoha, let alone trounce her. __________________