2011-11-04, 06:24 | Link #3141 | |
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So from that I'm assuming Avalon did reflect the attack back to Gilg... I could be wrong though.... |
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2011-11-07, 20:54 | Link #3145 |
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Of course there's a chance. There just hasn't been any announcement. It took 4-6 years between Fate's airing and UBW's movie, so just give it time. The success of Fate/Zero will likely play a role in how quickly it gets greenlit.
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2011-11-08, 00:50 | Link #3148 |
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Shounen is not a genre, it's a demographic. F/SN is more aimed at the seinen demographic. Also wasn't this already asked and answered? I swear I saw this in this thread already.
Edit: Yeah you asked the same thing and it was already answered a few days ago.
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2011-11-08, 05:50 | Link #3149 |
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It's kind of question about Japan more than anything, but it relates to Fate Zero:
How much knowledge about the Illiad is an average Japanese high schooler/college student going to have in the first place? Do they go over that story in their schools? |
2011-11-14, 08:39 | Link #3152 |
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I agree that Deen's adaptation pretty much suck. I feel like FSN would only shine in full glory if they have Kinoko Nasu incorporate all three routes into one and then adapt that. I guess they would have the best bet if they adapt the FSN manga right now which is pretty well done as far as I can tell (follows mostly Fate route, but with UBW and HF major plot points integrated in so far....).
Anyway I asked this question in the Fate/zero episode 7 thread but this place is a lot more suitable. 1) Does FSN Archer actually remember Saber? If he does then wouldn't it be obvious that he remembers that his younger self eventually bests his older self? In a way he already know what's going to happen then why bother plotting the whole kill himself act? 2) I understand that the summoned servants are actually just replicas of whatever is stored in the Holy Grail. That the true spirit is never summoned, so when they die it doens't affect the real thing. So with this said, Saber is the only exception to this rule because she signed the contract BEFORE she died? How do you even sign the contract you just talk to the world? 3) I understand that FSN and Tsukihime are actually part of the Nasuverse, so how old is Shiki right now in FSN? Do they happen parallel to each other? Is KNK also part of this verse? 4) I understand that Servants drain prana from their Masters through a "link". This process is apparently automatic, but they can manually get more from consuming souls? But apparently they can also transfer magic through sex (same as Tsukihime)....so really....who on earth would prefer sucking souls over sex? I mean it would make sense if you summoned someone that is not your sexual interest at all, but I don't think that applies for Caster or Rider in FSN (which is what they did). Even if souls would replenish mana more than sex, sex seems to be a viable route since it replenished Saber plenty even though Shiroh is an incompetent master (doesn't he have very little mana to begin with?). 5) I am also very confused about Illya being the holy grail. The UBW movie doesn't help at all. I know Einzburns are the ones who made the Holy Grail....so they hid it in her? Then why is she even in the war as a Master? What? |
2011-11-14, 12:00 | Link #3153 | |
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3) Not parallel, there is a time line. Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai are generally at the same time. "FSN happens right after Tsukihime" by Kinoko so FSN should be around 2000. However there is a big mistake because the Forth War should be in Bill Clinton's tour of duty (1993-2001). My favorate explanation is Forth War in 1993 and FSN 10 years later, 2003. 4) That's a complicated question. Since FSN is a galgame there have to be a reason to put sex into it, so they just states that mana can be transferred through sex... Actually I really prefer the option to filter sex scene, the migration of magic circuit seems much more reasonable than sex. 5) Spoiler:
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2011-11-14, 13:18 | Link #3154 |
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Follow up questions to clear things up a bit more. @1) So essentially FSN Archer doesn't remember that his younger version beats him until the last moments? @2) If so, then not even Archer remembers what happens in the Fifth war? He's never going to remember that he became content about his own self. 4) I see, I always thought the idea of mana transfer through sex was pretty fitting, and would probably work if the incentives of the characters were ironed out a little bit more. 5) So if everyone is trying to win the war and get the lesser grail to get to the great grail, am I correct? If that's the case why would Einsburn even bother to go to the war when they already have the "key"? Can't they just...you know...go to the temple? 6) Spoiler for fsn ending:
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It's best not to take those stories seriously. In any case the ending of the FSN anime isn't the only ending. In the Visual Novel there are 5 alternate endings. In an alternate ending to the UBW route, Saber does actually remain with Shirou as Rin's servant.
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Oh and how old is Saber really? Since...Shirou is like 17 right? Just wondering if this is an imouto relationship or an one-san relationship. Last edited by jonli; 2011-11-14 at 14:22. |
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And he does remember saber, he's just playing dumb. He actually got his memory back right away... Quote:
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Caster doesn't get any mana from sex because Kuzuki is not a magus, and Rider HATES shinji, and would NEVER EVER consider taking any more prana from sakura due to sakura's situation. Archer hasRin as master, Berserker has Ilya, Kojirou Caster and Assassin has Zolgen... Quote:
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Ataraxia is a dream created by Avenger to save Bazett. And unlike what Profile said, it CANNOT happen after HF because the greater grail was destroyed in that route Quote:
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