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Yakumae · 2004-01-06, 23:38

I just started this topic to get the word out... so far I have seen 5 people on here who thing that Thudercats is an anime...

it's not. Please. What in god's name would make you think it is?

FinFangFoom · 2004-01-06, 23:56

Thudercats is a tough one to classify since it was created by an american, but animated by a japanese studio, but shown exclusivly in the U.S (at least when it was created). Anime News Service refers to it as a Half-Anime.

method · 2004-01-07, 00:39

Farming the animation out to Japan was common at the time as a way to cut cost. G.I. Joe had its animation done by Toei. I wouldn't consider that enough to call it anime.

Kyuven · 2004-01-07, 01:27

using japanese animation companies for american cartoons is pretty commonplace
hell, Teen Titans even has a japanese singing duo sing the theme song (in Engrish no less) but it's still american
a lot of anime we know has had animation done in Korea after all

Prince of Chronics · 2004-01-07, 06:50

the Transformers from back in the day was anime right?

Tabiree · 2004-01-07, 07:41

Transformers seasons 1-3, the first movie, and the extra shitty Rebirth three-parter are not anime, despite being aired in Japan with a Japanese dub/edit/cultural changes, and having some assistance from Toei. It's writers, directors, voice actors (to start with), storyboarders, infact, anyone who did anything important was an American. The koreans/Chinese animated it. Anything else though, besides Beast Wars and Beast Machines is Anime. And also sucks.

Shii · 2004-01-07, 08:32

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Originally Posted by FinFangFoom

Thudercats is a tough one to classify since it was created by an american, but animated by a japanese studio

Yeah, well, so was "Batman Beyond" and "The Real Ghostbusters", and nobody in their right mind would call those anime, or even "half-anime".

chImp · 2004-01-07, 10:42

Is ShinChan anime? ;x

method · 2004-01-07, 13:26

Are you talking about the CGI ones. I thought they were canadian productions.

FinFangFoom · 2004-01-07, 13:41

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Originally Posted by ashibaka

Yeah, well, so was "Batman Beyond" and "The Real Ghostbusters", and nobody in their right mind would call those anime, or even "half-anime".

That's very interesting, I had no idea!

But thundercats is done in an anime style of art. Or at least I think it was, it's been so long. I guess it depends on what you consider to be anime. We all know that the Japanese consider any kind of animation, including disney movies like Little Mermaid to be anime. But in America, and probably most other countries, it is considered differently. Most people give the deffinition of anime as, "Japanese Animation" so literally since those shows are animated by Japanese, you could call it anime. But many people only consider it anime if they where made by Japanese for Japanese. I could ramble on about it forever, but my point is that I don't think there is a definate right answer. My personal opinion would be that it is not really anime, but just anime style.

Loki_Sama · 2004-01-07, 15:29

All cartoons, batman, EVA...thunder cats, himan, what ever all that crap is

ANIME
get that in your stupid ass head......the difference is JAPANESE ANIME
or AMERICAN ANIME

dammit its so damm simple LOOK!

ANIME = animation.....which means, you can even make an anime out of power point, put music, movement and some efects and you have an animated shit!
so dont be saying.....OH THIS IS ANIME, THIS ISNT.

all cartoons are ANIME.....dont get the wrong ideas. Japanese Anime or J-Anime. That is HELLA different now. OMG even bugs bunny is ANIME.

We disscused this LONG time ago, is there still idiots that bring these nonsense up?

Jap cars..... we call them Imports(in US) and ours (US) domestics.
STILL.......there damm AUTOMOBILES!!!!!

Loki

method · 2004-01-07, 15:36

America already has a word for all animation and that is cartoons. In conversation and just because we like to a disticition between home grown and foreign productions. So we started using japanimation. Later it was changed to anime.

I don't think there is one definitative style for anime, so I wouldn't use it to refer to style. Some people do, so it is up to each individual person to decide.

Shii · 2004-01-07, 15:37

Don't be silly, anime means "animation" in Japanese, but in the United States you would never use "anime" to mean a regular cartoon.

Loki_Sama · 2004-01-07, 16:06

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Originally Posted by ashibaka

Don't be silly, anime means "animation" in Japanese, but in the United States you would never use "anime" to mean a regular cartoon.

guess what? in mexico, spain and many central american and south america countrues.........ANIME.....= cartoons ALL........you add the Japanese part, and now they know what kind of anime you refer too

Loki_Sama · 2004-01-07, 16:12

Than what does ANIME mean?

ANIME = ANIMATION......= CARTOONS

just like the word.....OTAKU we Anime fans use at as FANATICS
when the word actually means.....OBSSESD.....
as in......your a HENTAI OTAKU.....that you are so damm crazzy about porn, stuff like that. We change the meanings of the words......you guys like it or not......there all Anime they can be ugly ass, crapy, like the simpsons or whatver, but still its ANIMATION.....ANIME......i dont like it, you dont like it, oh well bare the facts.

kamehameha · 2004-01-07, 16:37

i think your getting a bit to startled with this topic -_-.. i think he man and thundercats were anime .. shoot me..

Loki_Sama · 2004-01-07, 16:43

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Originally Posted by kamehameha

i think your getting a bit to startled with this topic -_-.. i think he man and thundercats were anime .. shoot me..

LOL.......they will have yo shoot us both than......that is if they dont get shot first

Keitaro · 2004-01-07, 17:06

I have to agree with Loki on this one, even though its kinda pointless to argue about. I personally refer all animated shows as anime. American made, Nihon made, whatever. Anime is just another way to call animated tv shows as is cartoons.

Loki_Sama · 2004-01-07, 17:09

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Originally Posted by Keitarou20

I have to agree with Loki on this one, even though its kinda pointless to argue about. I personally refer all animated shows as anime. American made, Nihon made, whatever. Anime is just another way to call animated tv shows as is cartoons.

OMG.......thanks.....ok now that i made my point there is no more to argue.....i dont wanna keep wasting time like this, either way hope you kids have fun ^_^.

Dragnfly@Gamefaqs · 2006-03-25, 01:21

I noticed this topic while doing a search to make sure there wasn't already a topic about what I was gonna post and the views people have here really intrague me.

To me, anime as we know it, as what animesuki is devoted to, is still different from western animation. Japanese animation is far more than just an art style. So much of it has character development that surpasses novels, visual cues that surpass live movies and stories that are as timeless as a first kiss.

So, being the proud owner of every Thundercats episode, on Beta no less, I vote that in my opinion and based on my above-listed reasons, something like that wouldn't be anime.

2004-01-06, 23:38	Link #1
Yakumae Queen of the Gum-Gums Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 47	Thundercats is NOT anime. I just started this topic to get the word out... so far I have seen 5 people on here who thing that Thudercats is an anime... it's not. Please. What in god's name would make you think it is?

2004-01-07, 06:50	Link #5
Prince of Chronics One Piece fan Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada	the Transformers from back in the day was anime right? __________________ MyAnimeList page

2004-01-07, 15:29	Link #11
Loki_Sama I do as I please... ¬_¬ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tracy CA Age: 40	Baka All cartoons, batman, EVA...thunder cats, himan, what ever all that crap is ANIME get that in your stupid ass head......the difference is JAPANESE ANIME or AMERICAN ANIME dammit its so damm simple LOOK! ANIME = animation.....which means, you can even make an anime out of power point, put music, movement and some efects and you have an animated shit! so dont be saying.....OH THIS IS ANIME, THIS ISNT. all cartoons are ANIME.....dont get the wrong ideas. Japanese Anime or J-Anime. That is HELLA different now. OMG even bugs bunny is ANIME. We disscused this LONG time ago, is there still idiots that bring these nonsense up? Jap cars..... we call them Imports(in US) and ours (US) domestics. STILL.......there damm AUTOMOBILES!!!!! Loki

2004-01-07, 15:37	Link #13
Shii Afflicted by the vanities Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fish-shape Paumanok Age: 36	Don't be silly, anime means "animation" in Japanese, but in the United States you would never use "anime" to mean a regular cartoon. __________________ Learn to define and spell moé Shii (formerly known as ashibaka)

2004-01-07, 17:06	Link #18
Keitaro Kyuuketsuki Otaku Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somewhere in Hawaii	I have to agree with Loki on this one, even though its kinda pointless to argue about. I personally refer all animated shows as anime. American made, Nihon made, whatever. Anime is just another way to call animated tv shows as is cartoons. __________________

2004-01-07, 00:39	Link #3
method Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003	Farming the animation out to Japan was common at the time as a way to cut cost. G.I. Joe had its animation done by Toei. I wouldn't consider that enough to call it anime.

2004-01-07, 01:27	Link #4
Kyuven Bishoujo Goodness Galore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Stuck Between Reality and Fantasy	using japanese animation companies for american cartoons is pretty commonplace hell, Teen Titans even has a japanese singing duo sing the theme song (in Engrish no less) but it's still american a lot of anime we know has had animation done in Korea after all

2004-01-07, 07:41	Link #6
Tabiree FUNimation's Gen Fukunaga Join Date: Nov 2003	Transformers seasons 1-3, the first movie, and the extra shitty Rebirth three-parter are not anime, despite being aired in Japan with a Japanese dub/edit/cultural changes, and having some assistance from Toei. It's writers, directors, voice actors (to start with), storyboarders, infact, anyone who did anything important was an American. The koreans/Chinese animated it. Anything else though, besides Beast Wars and Beast Machines is Anime. And also sucks.

2004-01-07, 10:42	Link #8
chImp Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Netherlands Age: 36	Is ShinChan anime? ;x

2004-01-07, 13:26	Link #9
method Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003	Are you talking about the CGI ones. I thought they were canadian productions.

2004-01-07, 15:36	Link #12
method Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003	America already has a word for all animation and that is cartoons. In conversation and just because we like to a disticition between home grown and foreign productions. So we started using japanimation. Later it was changed to anime. I don't think there is one definitative style for anime, so I wouldn't use it to refer to style. Some people do, so it is up to each individual person to decide.

2004-01-07, 16:12	Link #15
Loki_Sama I do as I please... ¬_¬ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tracy CA Age: 40	Than what does ANIME mean? ANIME = ANIMATION......= CARTOONS just like the word.....OTAKU we Anime fans use at as FANATICS when the word actually means.....OBSSESD..... as in......your a HENTAI OTAKU.....that you are so damm crazzy about porn, stuff like that. We change the meanings of the words......you guys like it or not......there all Anime they can be ugly ass, crapy, like the simpsons or whatver, but still its ANIMATION.....ANIME......i dont like it, you dont like it, oh well bare the facts.

2004-01-07, 16:37	Link #16
kamehameha Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003	i think your getting a bit to startled with this topic -_-.. i think he man and thundercats were anime .. shoot me..

2006-03-25, 01:21	Link #20
Dragnfly@Gamefaqs Vampie Walrus. Big fangs Join Date: Oct 2004	I noticed this topic while doing a search to make sure there wasn't already a topic about what I was gonna post and the views people have here really intrague me. To me, anime as we know it, as what animesuki is devoted to, is still different from western animation. Japanese animation is far more than just an art style. So much of it has character development that surpasses novels, visual cues that surpass live movies and stories that are as timeless as a first kiss. So, being the proud owner of every Thundercats episode, on Beta no less, I vote that in my opinion and based on my above-listed reasons, something like that wouldn't be anime.