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***Pellissier*** · 2008-01-17, 05:43

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serenade_beta · 2008-01-17, 14:07

I don't really expect anything amazing. Some cool down, experimenting on Yuuji, enjoying the festival.

I hope at least one character will point out how much Pheles stand out...

Omniscient · 2008-01-17, 14:19

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

I don't really expect anything amazing. Some cool down, experimenting on Yuuji, enjoying the festival.

I hope at least one character will point out how much Pheles stand out...

That's kind of how the episode turned out...until the last two minutes...

nines · 2008-01-17, 14:24

whered u guys see the epi at cant find it x.x

Xellos-_^ · 2008-01-17, 14:30

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

I don't really expect anything amazing. Some cool down, experimenting on Yuuji, enjoying the festival.

I hope at least one character will point out how much Pheles stand out...

There is Yuuji filling Pheles with his existance

Pheles: More Yuuji, More. Please fill me up

Malzar · 2008-01-17, 14:52

omg its released !!! :O I must see this episode o_O

(Can't find it though) =(

piku · 2008-01-17, 14:54

only satisfactory on the scene of pheles and johann (so great that make me cheer in front of the screen), as well as the scene kazumi change her clothes. the story is being too fast and not deliver main point to viewers very well... many detail and splendid description from novel are lost. read back novel 12 is recommend for interest.

i must say the drawing style is so unstable that i laugh for nearly whole episode, for pheles's face... how come a beauty in the novel become like that in animation... beg for improvement in the rest episodes.

shana x kazumi, yuri well done! pheles is YANDERE...

fumina seems reveal her identity as guessed...

Susanou · 2008-01-17, 15:08

Screenshots are up at the RandomC blog: Click

Needlesss to say, the last 2 minutes pretty much are the center of this episode. Some background stuff, then some action again. Anyways, speculating time:

Spoiler:

Malzar · 2008-01-17, 15:09

well for me pheles looks good she looks much like a nimf that make it weard I gues :P

DX HBK · 2008-01-17, 16:33

I guess the moral of the story is to don't travel memory lane, especially with Pheles.

Well, looks like the action is about to heat up but will there be anymore original content?

teachopvutru · 2008-01-17, 17:01

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Originally Posted by nines

whered u guys see the epi at cant find it x.x

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malzar

omg its released !!! :O I must see this episode o_O

(Can't find it though) =(

The people who have watched it most likely watch the RAW and understand Japanese. Just in case you don't know, the RAW doesn't have subtitle.

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Originally Posted by piku

only satisfactory on the scene of pheles and johann (so great that make me cheer in front of the screen), as well as the scene kazumi change her clothes. the story is being too fast and not deliver main point to viewers very well... many detail and splendid description from novel are lost. read back novel 12 is recommend for interest.

Well, that would probably be 3-5 years later for Viz to release that volume.

Of course, assuming they will still continue it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by piku

i must say the drawing style is so unstable that i laugh for nearly whole episode, for pheles's face... how come a beauty in the novel become like that in animation... beg for improvement in the rest episodes.

Haven't seen this episode yet (waiting for sub to come out) but I agree that the drawing style changed virtually every episode. I liked the first few episodes' drawing so let's hope they stick with those.

X10A_Freedom · 2008-01-17, 18:11

Decent bridge episode, at least explains why the battle in ep13 was mediocre.

Ep15 in my opinion will be the make or break for this series which has been rather mediocre so far.

Deathkillz · 2008-01-17, 18:56

YAY more action!...mainly in the preview!

Spoiler:

DX HBK · 2008-01-17, 19:11

Hey, she doesn't know much about self-restraint. Still, the expression on her face in being impaled by the Silver's arm seem a bit out of place. Almost a bit comical.

Well, let's see what Konoe... or Hecate does. Another week of waiting.

serenade_beta · 2008-01-17, 20:15

Spoiler for ep14:

Neki Ecko · 2008-01-17, 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by DX HBK

Hey, she doesn't know much about self-restraint. Still, the expression on her face in being impaled by the Silver's arm seem a bit out of place. Almost a bit comical.

Well, let's see what Konoe... or Hecate does. Another week of waiting.

Konoe or Hecate is going to have something planned and it will be showing up in the next episode, and also

Spoiler for :

ThoHell · 2008-01-17, 21:59

Hm...I was really looking forward to Shana season 2 for awhile, but so far it has been rather disappointing. Boring, too many pauses and overkill reaction and screaming from Yuugi....leading to *yawn*. I think the only good part of this episode was the bloody end with the 2 twist and then a cliff hanger. Preview for the next episode looks good, hope it is!

Reckoner · 2008-01-17, 22:44

Not saying that these people's opinions are invalid or anything, but it seems to me that when ever a show gets a follow up, people usually cry that it isn't as good as the first season. Is this some kind of universal trend?

Personally there have only been about 3 bad episodes this season and like 4 mediocre, the rest have been good.

teachopvutru · 2008-01-17, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Reckoner

Not saying that these people's opinions are invalid or anything, but it seems to me that when ever a show gets a follow up, people usually cry that it isn't as good as the first season. Is this some kind of universal trend?

Personally there have only been about 3 bad episodes this season and like 4 mediocre, the rest have been good.

Since marathoned the first season in one night, the experience of watching it in comparison to this one would obviously be different. For that reason, I can't exactly compare them hand-in-hand. However, I would say that in my opinion, not to generalize but the people who are complaining are overexaggerated... this season isn't as bad as people make it out to be whether or not it's not as good as the first season... The disappointment they get is probably withdrawed from anticipation for this season, or at least, that's what their posts seem to say... or at least, ThoHell's does.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2008-01-17, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

There is Yuuji filling Pheles with his existance

Pheles: More Yuuji, More. Please fill me up

It's clear she'd rather be filled up by Johan.

I suppose its understandable to a certain extent that she wants him back so badly, she's been going what? Centuries without refueling?

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2008-01-17, 14:07	Link #2
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	I don't really expect anything amazing. Some cool down, experimenting on Yuuji, enjoying the festival. I hope at least one character will point out how much Pheles stand out... __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2008-01-17, 14:24	Link #4
nines I much prefer the 2d Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Frontier Age: 31	whered u guys see the epi at cant find it x.x __________________

2008-01-17, 14:54	Link #7
piku Wilhelmina Carmel my love Join Date: Jul 2006	only satisfactory on the scene of pheles and johann (so great that make me cheer in front of the screen), as well as the scene kazumi change her clothes. the story is being too fast and not deliver main point to viewers very well... many detail and splendid description from novel are lost. read back novel 12 is recommend for interest. i must say the drawing style is so unstable that i laugh for nearly whole episode, for pheles's face... how come a beauty in the novel become like that in animation... beg for improvement in the rest episodes. shana x kazumi, yuri well done! pheles is YANDERE... fumina seems reveal her identity as guessed... __________________

2008-01-17, 15:08	Link #8
Susanou .Enforcer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: .//r00t	Screenshots are up at the RandomC blog: Click Needlesss to say, the last 2 minutes pretty much are the center of this episode. Some background stuff, then some action again. Anyways, speculating time: Spoiler: Click for Image Is it me or does this hand (also seen in the OP) bear a certain resemblance to that Knight guy covered in silver flames at the beginning of episode 8? If so, how come it appeared out of Yuuji...most likely it's due to that spell insignia Sabrac interested but other then that we can only guess....

2008-01-17, 14:52	Link #6
Malzar Dark Watcher Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Belgium	omg its released !!! :O I must see this episode o_O (Can't find it though) =(

2008-01-17, 15:09	Link #9
Malzar Dark Watcher Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Belgium	well for me pheles looks good she looks much like a nimf that make it weard I gues :P

2008-01-17, 16:33	Link #10
DX HBK I'm the Showstopper! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: A place where you can't find me.	I guess the moral of the story is to don't travel memory lane, especially with Pheles. Well, looks like the action is about to heat up but will there be anymore original content?

2008-01-17, 18:11	Link #12
X10A_Freedom Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Neo-Venezia...I wish!	Decent bridge episode, at least explains why the battle in ep13 was mediocre. Ep15 in my opinion will be the make or break for this series which has been rather mediocre so far.

2008-01-17, 18:56	Link #13
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	YAY more action!...mainly in the preview! Spoiler: Aww...I didn't expect pheles to turn sour at the last minute...then WTFBBQHAXX silver punched a hole in the stomach I still think pheles is cool...hopefully she won't die ;_; __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2008-01-17, 19:11	Link #14
DX HBK I'm the Showstopper! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: A place where you can't find me.	Hey, she doesn't know much about self-restraint. Still, the expression on her face in being impaled by the Silver's arm seem a bit out of place. Almost a bit comical. Well, let's see what Konoe... or Hecate does. Another week of waiting.

2008-01-17, 20:15	Link #15
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep14: Overall, until the very end, it was pretty peaceful and dully enjoyable... -That flying scene with Shana and Kazumi seemed to have the opposite effect on me. I assume it was supposed to be touching or something, but I didn't need them to reconfirm "I won't lose" for the nth time. The flying was also... -Tired Pheles=100x different attitude from the regenerated Pheles... -Ah-ah, in the end, nobody bothered to even mention Pheles's strange clothes. We get "Kirei~~", but no "hen na kakko"... -Tanaka is so much closer to Matake now. All it took was for him to witness her getting killed several times over... -Ike is STILL being dragged around by her... -Now I see where the gadgets and gears in the OP come from... -Love make people psychotic. -BAM! Through the stomach! Ouch... bracelets shine -NOO!~~ Don't tell me it's really going to happen! goes into denial Next time - Awakening; IcanthearIcanthearIcan'thear, itsnottrue, sob __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2008-01-17, 21:59	Link #17
ThoHell Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	Hm...I was really looking forward to Shana season 2 for awhile, but so far it has been rather disappointing. Boring, too many pauses and overkill reaction and screaming from Yuugi....leading to yawn. I think the only good part of this episode was the bloody end with the 2 twist and then a cliff hanger. Preview for the next episode looks good, hope it is!

2008-01-17, 22:44	Link #18
Reckoner Bittersweet Distractor Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 32	Not saying that these people's opinions are invalid or anything, but it seems to me that when ever a show gets a follow up, people usually cry that it isn't as good as the first season. Is this some kind of universal trend? Personally there have only been about 3 bad episodes this season and like 4 mediocre, the rest have been good.