2008-10-31, 18:14 | Link #781 | |
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2008-10-31, 18:19 | Link #782 |
I desire Tomorrow!
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: As far away from reality as possible
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Argh... My Xubuntu died on upgrade and locks at boot ... -_-' ... Guess it's reinstall now... Ah well, no worries anyway, it's through Wubi on my laptop. But I didn't expect it to fail that terribly...
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2008-10-31, 18:47 | Link #783 | ||
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Though I prefer using the network because I prefer to download ONLY what I want to install, though I somewhat sympathize with what you're saying. I just don't like systems which install EVERY DAMNED THING in the known world (Red Hat has been notorious for that in the past). Plus since I have several Ubuntu boxen locally, I have one machine running Squid with settings tweaked so that even the biggest of the big-ass .deb files I'm likely to use are cached with no problem. Quote:
All my deployed production Linux servers are Ubuntu servers. They used to be Debian, but I got tired of the long dev cycles and all the needless politicking. I have had only one major issue in all that time and that was when I upgraded an external server from Gutsy to Hardy. However, going from Hardy to Intrepid was a breeze. And I'm glad I did it early; the repos are SLASHDOTTINGLY SWAMPED right now. --Ian. |
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2008-10-31, 23:58 | Link #784 | ||
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2008-11-01, 00:44 | Link #785 |
Gregory House
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Buenos Aires 8.10 Release Party pictures! Whee!
Spoiler for So many people:
Spoiler for The organizing team, which I'm proud to have been part of:
Spoiler for Laughs and chatter during the presentation:
Spoiler for I'm a very happy guy :D:
Spoiler for Awesome banner:
Spoiler for We had all sorts of attendees:
Spoiler for Relaxed chatting outside the bar:
Spoiler for Final group picture:
As you can clearly see in the pictures, the fact that I was laughing and smiling in all of them means I had a hell of a great time. I'm very proud to be part of this community, and I give thanks to Linux and all the Free Software community for having given me the opportunity to meet so many wonderful people.
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2008-11-01, 19:19 | Link #786 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
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Glad to see you still have the hair... there's so few of us LOTR escapees left
I went ahead and ordered my disks .... going to see how my little goblin band of computers deal with it since I'm rebuilding my home network anyway.
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2008-11-01, 20:13 | Link #787 |
I desire Tomorrow!
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Gah... Kubuntu 8.10 is made of fail. Adept 3.0 sucks so terribly it's insane it's in a normal release. First kernel update made Kubuntu unbootable... O_o Ok, is it me or do Ubuntu people hate KDE or something? I'm probably going to downgrade to Xubuntu 8.04 on my laptop cause there's something wrong with the dual monitor configuration in Xubuntu 8.10 which was ok in 8.04 (or if it's supposedly fixed now, I want the old behavior back).
Only thing that actually works mostly is Ubuntu 8.10, which does feel like an improvement. Oh well...
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2008-11-01, 20:17 | Link #788 | ||
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In the case of what I was working on, I got done what I needed to do with Fedora. The next thing I'm doing with the drive that has the install on it is to wipe it. Quote:
In an emergency, RPM files cannot be broken open with "regular" Unix tools (and in this context, RPM does NOT count, not even rpm2cpio). With .deb files, all you need is ar(1) (from binutils), tar(1) and gzip(1). That helped enormously when I had a problem with the box which needed upgrading. As for YUM, I found it annoyingly slow, and apt-rpm, while it made dealing with my Fedora setup easier, was not much better. APT on an Ubuntu system was a lot faster on even a Pentium III 600, the machine I used as a hackbox. When I was doing some testing on NetBSD's pkgsrc collection, I installed Fedora solely to isolate whether there were any distribution-related problems. The netinstall was amazingly frustrating. I had to know beforehand a URL for a Fedora mirror to enter into a blank. I was never even given a helping hand, like a preset repository, like what Debian and Ubuntu have or even a format suggestion. Once I got THAT working, I told Anaconda NOT to install X and GNOME during the initial setup when I booted the CD. What happened was it installed X and GNOME anyway. I wanted a text-only install, and I only wanted text-only stuff. I got that and more stuff I never wanted. The first boot, it runs the first-run part, verifying basic settings, like network and such. After the first boot finishes running, I find that the network wasn't working right. The ethernet interface was configured up, but there was no default route. One reboot later, the network setup was NOT working at all, not even turned up. However, an /etc/init.d/network start fixed that. This entire process happened not only once but TWICE (two different installs; the second on a drive that was bigger to accommodate more RPMs for an apt-get upgrade or a yum update or whatever it is; I never did the upgrade; it kept throwing errors, so I'm not even going to bother diagnosing it because the drive's getting wiped anyway). In summary, I am very frustrated with Fedora and the way I wanted to try installing and using it. I somehow feel that CentOS and RHEL will be no different. I have never liked Red Hat's propensity to install just about EVERYTHING and more that I don't want or need. And I do not like the fact that Red Hat continues to use Sendmail as its default MTA, something I find to be even more distressing, given Sendmail's long, illustrious and, might I add, notoriously bad security track record. Not to mention, I don't like dealing with RPM to begin with, which alone drives me away from a LOT of distributions. On a more positive note, Red Hat has finally gotten its act together, turning off most services which do not need to be on for an initial install (they had been on in the past, opening the machine up to a wide variety of exploits). That alone is a major improvement. Put very simply, my recent experience with Fedora has reinforced the fact that I intensely dislike working on Red Hat and Red Hat-based systems. All of my experiences have been very bad. Maybe I don't understand the design philosophy, though one thing is certain: I do not AGREE with it. OBLIGATORY DISCLAIMER: Please bear in mind that I'm only stating my opinion. I'm just saying what does or does not work for me. As the old cliche goes, Your Mileage May Vary(R). --Ian. Last edited by IRJustman; 2008-11-01 at 21:00. |
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2008-11-01, 21:25 | Link #789 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Sounds like nothing has changed since I went jogging away from Fedora/Redhat some years ago (sigh) for many of the same reasons.
I'll certainly admit I've gotten lazy in that Ubuntu just works for me...(course, I've not gotten 8.10 yet.... :P)
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2008-11-04, 07:55 | Link #792 |
Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!!
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@martino - for networking check that the file
/etc/network/interfaces only contains the loopback lines ie: # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback Just found a slight issue with my install, my Syntek webcam no longer works *sniffle*
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2008-11-04, 21:17 | Link #794 | |
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Anyone else tried the wobbly windows effect in KDE4? I'm finding it rather addictive, even though I've never been a big fan of eyecandy effects. It also makes me feel dizzy after a while... I think I'll have to switch it off for productivity and health reasons.
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2008-11-05, 08:57 | Link #795 | |
Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!!
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compizconfig-settings-manager this allows you to customise compiz fusion-icon this slaps a icon in the notification area and allows you to turn it on and off, you can also turn it on and off at the cli using: metacity --replace <- you will need to replace metacity with the kde equivalent compiz --replace gconf @mg1942 I'm using 8.10 (also 8.04 and 7.10) with my EeePC 901 using its slow ssd and it works fine
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2008-11-07, 14:38 | Link #797 | ||
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2008-11-07, 20:14 | Link #798 | |
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