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Old 2013-01-06, 22:41   Link #2421
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Fair enough, most of the time what I get is japanese to english and then to spanish. So a lot is third hand material
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Old 2013-01-06, 22:44   Link #2422
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but Sansker has cheked those episodes so i think he have a good grasp of what's being said during the fights xD
He doesn't like anything about this story, why would you trust what he has to say about it?
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Old 2013-01-06, 22:46   Link #2423
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Because I am awesome? I do tell what happen and then I tell what I think about it, is not like I have a secret plot to destroy it by taking over tranlated versions and change them to the worst (Not that I think is possible make it worse)
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Old 2013-01-06, 23:07   Link #2424
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Vivid has a habit of showing vestiges of more interesting plot than it actually has.

"Here's some interesting info on Vivio's original- Haha, joke, have some loli fights."

"Remember Ix? Well, here she is and she's going to be plot relevant- Psyche!"

And so on.
I remember the first disappointment:

Sunder: "OMG, a new enemy who has the connections to know about Vivio and Ixpellia! And she wants to take them both out and prove she's the stronger emperor!

"...Wait, she's just a little girl? And where the fuck are her connections and backers? Forget connections, where the hell are her parents or guardians? Why the fuck did she think she could get anywhere NEAR Vivio or Ixpellia without at least a strike team?"
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Old 2013-01-06, 23:14   Link #2425
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He doesn't like anything about this story, why would you trust what he has to say about it?
As he said (not the awesome part xDU, altough i think he's a cool guy xD), it's because he always tend to make a good, detailed summary of what happens in the story and then moves to write his own critic. Kinda like my own FORCE summaries on the other thread (except i tend to be a bit more specific on details, yeah i deserve some self-praising as well xD).

I have been following the content of the recent ViVid chapters trough his summaries just fine, and even if i don't share some of his opinions (i find some stuff on ViVid interesting, you know) i enjoy a quick chance to get a grasp on the plot just fine xD
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Old 2013-01-06, 23:19   Link #2426
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I tend to keep it on what is revelant to the plot. That being say I do add to many details
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Old 2013-01-07, 01:33   Link #2427
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It does but that is also a problem since most of the time we sit and let other people just tell us things about the characters. Works maybe about some points but really at times all we know about someone is what the others told us and I am more of a fan of sowing and let natural dialogue bring it up rather than exposition dialogue. Which seems to be the one that rules ViVid, where characters only appear to share pointless observations of the obvious and explain the powers of the characters. The rest of the time the dialogue is really not that great.
What exactly do you mean with "natural dialog?"
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Old 2013-01-07, 09:47   Link #2428
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Well, just regular chat that isn't an exposition dialogue. Time to time we do get the characters just talking and interacting and there we can learn more about them, showing us how they act and what they think without having another character just talking about. Sometime is fine and needed that one character is deconstruct by another one but on ViVid that tends to happen a lot because the large number of characters and the little time we give to each one of them.
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Old 2013-01-07, 11:32   Link #2429
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So, the kind of conversation you want is:

Vivio: "that was a fun match. I had a lot of fun! How about we go have hot chocolate?"
Miura: "That sounds really good! We should invite Rio, Corona, Harri and Miciah, too!"
Rio: "Don't forget Einhart!"
Corona: "Can we go for a walk in the park after?"
Vivio: "Sure!"

There, dialogue with no exposition. Pages and pages of that. That is what you feel is better?
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Old 2013-01-07, 14:03   Link #2430
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The funny part? I can see that scene happening any time soon
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Old 2013-01-07, 15:15   Link #2431
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But... we do see them just talking to eachother. Almost every chapter, really.
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Old 2013-01-07, 19:39   Link #2432
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And when did I say they didn't?

I mean some of the exposition could be better replace with a story that helps to build up characters instead of using another character to talk about them.
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Old 2013-01-07, 21:21   Link #2433
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You mean like this chapter, with Sieglinde and Victoria as well? You can tell that's the case just from the pictures.
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Old 2013-01-07, 21:30   Link #2434
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Which chapter?
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Old 2013-01-07, 21:37   Link #2435
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What do you mean, "which" chapter? The latest one. This one.
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Old 2013-01-07, 21:40   Link #2436
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I read them when they get translated, so really I don't coment on the lines in japanese because I can't read them.
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Old 2013-01-08, 00:47   Link #2437
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That's why I said to look at the...gah.
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Old 2013-01-08, 09:58   Link #2438
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I know what you say, but we can't really learn much from images. As a matter of fact an image context can be change by the dialogue. I have seen it happening, so I really don’t like to base my opinion on the looks of a scene if I can’t read the dialogue, because both are need it to get an scene most of the time.
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Old 2013-01-08, 10:42   Link #2439
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You wanted a reason for her to be considered strong besides expositions.

Those images are basically what you want.
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Old 2013-01-08, 14:25   Link #2440
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We will see about that, if they are then perfect
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