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Old 2015-04-19, 00:53   Link #621
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Which is literally impossible.
until the next chapter is translated, I wouldn't say that. As far as we know he is only immune to physical attacks. Magic attacks deal damage.
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Old 2015-04-19, 01:00   Link #622
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I'll spoiler this, so don't read it if you don't want to know.
Spoiler:


The spoiler is moot regardless, Satou didn't actually have any means to hurt him at this point.
The choice of using guns for mid-range was not a bad decision, considering he was constantly getting bound by shadowbinds.
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Old 2015-04-19, 01:02   Link #623
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I'll spoiler this, so don't read it if you don't want to know.
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The spoiler is moot regardless, Satou didn't actually have any means to hurt him at this point.
The choice of using guns for mid-range was not a bad decision, considering he was constantly getting bound by shadowbinds.
Could you Define Yuusha for me? I don't know what that word means.
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Old 2015-04-19, 01:03   Link #624
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Could you Define Yuusha for me? I don't know what that word means.
Yuusha & Maoh, Hero and the Demon Lord, the standard trope of fantasy stories.
Arisa already explained there is a Hero in Saga Empire.
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Old 2015-04-19, 01:06   Link #625
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My thanks aohige.
Spoiler for Spoiler:
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Old 2015-04-19, 01:13   Link #626
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My thanks aohine.
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No, I'm saying
Spoiler:


And like I said above, it's a moot point. Satou couldn't kill him, it was obvious he didn't have any means to in the short battle, and he was constantly having to deal with shadowbind tentacles (which Satou was obviously having hard time to deal with). His choice to use the guns was not "foolish" as you people keep claiming.
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Old 2015-04-19, 01:18   Link #627
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It was already lampshaded in the translated chapters anyway.

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But the strike is unable to stop the magician's chant. My fist has penetrated the magician's robe, but there is no response at all. Is it this guy's unique skill?
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"If you want to die then go do it yourself. Don't involve other people."
"Fuhahaha, I have received blessing from the god, I am immortal."
That's a level 310 strike to a level 41. It should be clear that skill could nullify level difference. But of course, some people will still think otherwise (or rather, don't want to think at all lol).
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Old 2015-04-19, 01:21   Link #628
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Old 2015-04-19, 01:25   Link #629
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What the... have you never read these type of tropes?

No, a "Hero" is an actual title, a job, or a status.
Not a mindset. We're not talking about "being heroic".
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Old 2015-04-19, 01:26   Link #630
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Wait for it on the translated chapter or for someone here to spoil it for you.
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Old 2015-04-19, 01:52   Link #631
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It is refer to a certain type of ability, a certain type of summon, If a chicken is summoned with that ability, then that chicken is a hero. Satou wasn't summoned as one.
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Old 2015-04-19, 02:14   Link #632
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Adding up some info for the spoilers discussion above (again, don't read it if you don't want to know. it will only get explained few volumes later)

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Old 2015-04-19, 02:21   Link #633
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No, I'm saying
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And like I said above, it's a moot point. Satou couldn't kill him, it was obvious he didn't have any means to in the short battle, and he was constantly having to deal with shadowbind tentacles (which Satou was obviously having hard time to deal with). His choice to use the guns was not "foolish" as you people keep claiming.
What make him a fool isn't about his chose of weapon.
First is "let negotiate " while he don't even have any card to play in the negotiate ,
Then second , he have time to prepare yet in the end create a mess.
OP or not , there are always ways to beat him and kidnap the princess but the actions Satou chose lead to the fail make me though "is he an idiot ?"
The chose he make normally lead to party wipe out if there are no plot shield.
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Old 2015-04-19, 02:35   Link #634
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What make him a fool isn't about his chose of weapon.
First is "let negotiate " while he don't even have any card to play in the negotiate ,
Then second , he have time to prepare yet in the end create a mess.
OP or not , there are always ways to beat him and kidnap the princess but the actions Satou chose lead to the fail make me though "is he an idiot ?"
The chose he make normally lead to party wipe out if there are no plot shield.
Did you actually bother to go back and read again?
"Negotiation"? Do you mean the extremely short exchange they had? Or the banters?

"Good evening, Magician. I'm am Satou, a passing by merchant."
"I have no business with a merchant"
"You may not, but this girl is under my protection. I can't just hand her over to someone so sucpicious."

That's simply greeting and responding to a line.
It's no more than a BANTER. What he said is basically "You ain't getting this girl, piss off."
He knows it won't work, but he at least has the courtesy to have these (very short) words.
Even something like Game of Thrones have "exchanging words with the enemy", or hell, Breaking Bad.
"Why didn't Walter open fire the moment he saw them! Why do they bother to exchange words? These shows are STUPID!"

You guys are seriously either blowing this out of proportion, or actually didn't bother to read anything.
So let me get this straight. You are pissed off that he didn't IMMEDIATELY open fire on the mage the second they encountered him?
How DARE Satou speak any words! Why is he greeting someone he just met mere second ago!
Is this what you are saying? Seriously?
He pretty much immediately thrusts with his arms right after these short exchange. Is that not up-in-face enough for you?

Then in middle of the fight, Zen doesn't seem to take any damage, and compliments Satou on his action.
Satou then simply returns a banter "Will you give up then?" to which he replies no.

All the conversations that happen are standard fight banters. Nothing feels out of place or unwarranted.
Seriously, do you get this mad and unreasonable at SPIDER-MAN?
OMGZ! Why is Peter trying to negotiate with Doc Oc!! No, no dude, Peter isn't doing that.

I seriously question either the quality of translation or English comprehension.
I don't know which is at fault, but seeing more than one person coming to this utterly ridiculous point, I going to guess something was warped or lost in translation.
This argument is really dumb.
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Old 2015-04-19, 02:38   Link #635
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What make him a fool isn't about his chose of weapon.
First is "let negotiate " while he don't even have any card to play in the negotiate ,
Then second , he have time to prepare yet in the end create a mess.
OP or not , there are always ways to beat him and kidnap the princess but the actions Satou chose lead to the fail make me though "is he an idiot ?"
The chose he make normally lead to party wipe out if there are no plot shield.
He's testing the water and he didn't abandon anything else by doing that. But bad people is just bad people right? just kill 'em! lol

How is he creating the mess? How would he knew that the enemy will be invincible? He did make a mistake but it's not something unfixable and he will learn from it. Or are you expecting him to be a perfect protagonist that could predict everything?

Specify which action that make you think that, because if it's only the two above, that make me think that what you're saying actually apply to you instead.
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Old 2015-04-19, 04:09   Link #636
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Woooo, Mito will live under the same roof as him yayay~ harem increases~
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Old 2015-04-19, 04:31   Link #637
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^I want to see how she reacts to a certain Elf lady...
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Old 2015-04-19, 04:31   Link #638
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With all the trouble he has I see no reason for him to have such high level.
I mean even if you have no skill having level almost 8 times higher the enemy shouldn't be a problem.
I mean if I am in the game 80 lvl - they guy with level 10 is just a moth for me.

And based on the current situation it seems that the current hero will be able to defeat Satou.
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Old 2015-04-19, 04:35   Link #639
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^I want to see how she reacts to a certain Elf lady...
The first wife candidate huhuhu

p.s. nobody can defeat Satou
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Old 2015-04-19, 04:36   Link #640
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That is indeed pretty sweet.

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So then who's the 'main waifu' so to speak.. more specifically I want to ask who&what all his harem members/candidates are?

Also want to know if he can modify or effect their skills in any way?

Also in general reference to the earlier topic of Satou's skill point allocation, he had 3100 skill points and he only needs 10 to max out any given skill. that's plenty of skill points for him to be a little loose in picking them. That said, I can understand people getting bothered by some of the selections. He passed up skills like 'Strategy', 'Sprinting', 'Lost Knowledge' and 'Herculean Strength', even turns his nose at skills like 'assassination' but will max out his spear skill which he doesn't need and almost never uses. Not completely against 'wasted' skill points though, sex technique, FTW.
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