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ShadowSeed · 2010-03-12, 13:31

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Originally Posted by Fran~

If we ignore that, the protagonist would be Aizen...
Ichigo -> Naruto
Aizen -> Sasuke

I ain't watchin' no Naruto so i don't get your reference.

Fran~ · 2010-03-12, 14:40

ok, bad example

I was saying that if we ignore that Ichigo is Bleach's protagonist, we would see that Aizen would be the center where the main plot turns around.
Shinigamis wants to eliminate him
Vizards wants revenge from him
etc...

OTOH Ichigo is centered in his hollow nature, he is son of a Shinigami, very little is known about why he is so special...

kamyu · 2010-03-12, 14:47

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Originally Posted by 9TailsOfDestruction

Did Yamamoto take the full blast from Hado 96 Itto Kaso? We see Aizen escape, but is the general still burning to a crisp in that hole?

i think we have to assume that he got hit pretty hard by it. he was holding onto aizen's ankle when he set it off and it was pretty damn big.

Kafriel · 2010-03-12, 15:37

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OTOH Ichigo is centered in his hollow nature, he is son of a Shinigami, very little is known about why he is so special...

Because he has...resolve. The point of most shounen series is to focus on a normal guy getting dragged into supernatural situations, Bleach was no exception until Ichigo was revealed to be a halfbreed (wrong word but made me lol). His character is more battle-oriented right now, rather than focused on his personality: he gets new abilities, he beats enemy X (see GJ/Ulquiorra), he wants to protecccctttt! Then again, he doesn't have a say in this war, so can't rly blame him.

ShadowSeed · 2010-03-12, 15:37

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Originally Posted by kamyu

i think we have to assume that he got hit pretty hard by it. he was holding onto aizen's ankle when he set it off and it was pretty damn big.

Two words.

Kyoga Suigetsu

Mr. DJ · 2010-03-12, 15:48

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Originally Posted by ShadowSeed

Two words.

Kyoga Suigetsu

and that worked so well against Yama the first time >.>

ShadowSeed · 2010-03-12, 15:59

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Originally Posted by DjTrizz

and that worked so well against Yama the first time >.>

Chop his head off, instakill for Aizen, instakill for Yama, regenerated new head for Ichigo.

Intranetusa · 2010-03-12, 16:06

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Originally Posted by ShadowSeed

I ain't watchin' no Naruto so i don't get your reference.

Originally I thought Naruto was a crap show. Now that its 2nd season plot has picked up, I think its plot is MUCH MUCH MUCH better than Bleach's plot.

Mr. DJ · 2010-03-12, 16:18

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Originally Posted by ShadowSeed

Chop his head off, instakill for Aizen, instakill for Yama, regenerated new head for Ichigo.

now you know better

Le_Rukia · 2010-03-12, 16:57

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Originally Posted by DjTrizz

now you know better

I am back, DjTrizz.. I agree with you

kamyu · 2010-03-12, 18:36

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Originally Posted by ShadowSeed

Two words.

Kyoga Suigetsu

what about it?

the point was made pretty clear earlier that yama-jii can tell whether or not he is holding onto the real aizen by sensing his reitsu.
also, if that was a fake aizen then why the panicked fleeing and getting burned? instead we would've been treated to an unburned gloating aizen watching the bonfire.

and if it was a fake aizen anyway, that still doesn't change the fact that yama-jii at the very least thought he was holding aizen and still set off the nuke right in his own face.

Ryuuken · 2010-03-12, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Thewanderer

I think he in fact does.

Back when Renji challenged Byakuya, he released Zabimaru without saying its name. Byakuya knew he had achieved bankai, because only then could you release your Zanpaktou with saying its name.
Same rule for all Zanpaktou.

But the victim has to look at it, it Aizens case, right when he releases it.
There are many examples for this but the best one is, when Aizen met the King of Hueco Mundo. He said "please look" and then he releases it.
Other examples include when Aizen first showed his ability to Unohana and Isane.
And obviously the fact Tousen couldn't be affected by it.

edit: just saw that this was already pointed out last page

But here is the scene again, with him explaining it all.

Calca · 2010-03-12, 20:36

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Originally Posted by kamyu

what about it?

the point was made pretty clear earlier that yama-jii can tell whether or not he is holding onto the real aizen by sensing his reitsu.
also, if that was a fake aizen then why the panicked fleeing and getting burned? instead we would've been treated to an unburned gloating aizen watching the bonfire.

and if it was a fake aizen anyway, that still doesn't change the fact that yama-jii at the very least thought he was holding aizen and still set off the nuke right in his own face.

It can't be fake. Ichigo wouldn't have attacked that particular character then.

Simon_Lord · 2010-03-12, 20:39

one thing i have in mind, Gin can still show up to parry the blow...

Crusader · 2010-03-12, 22:24

Hmm i had to back track and do some catching up, and i have to say that im not pleased with whats happening. Im just having flashbacks of soul society here with Aizen fighting everyone. It was cool then, but now it's juts not as interesting even with the newer abilities displayed.
yamamoto was less than what i thought he was made out to be, and he went down fairly quickly.

oh well i guess one can only expect so much.

Lendial · 2010-03-12, 22:24

gin could have sliced yamato in half several times before, especially when he was lying in the pit waiting for aizen foolishly get in grabbing range.

karaya · 2010-03-12, 23:03

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Originally Posted by Lendial

gin could have sliced yamato in half several times before, especially when he was lying in the pit waiting for aizen foolishly get in grabbing range.

Gin trusts in Aizen's abilities to deal with this mess

Fran~ · 2010-03-12, 23:12

I really REALLY miss Kisuke and Yoruichi...

I will LMAO if Gin is somekind of double agent sending by SS's King

Thewanderer · 2010-03-12, 23:23

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Originally Posted by Ryuuken

Back when Renji challenged Byakuya, he released Zabimaru without saying its name. Byakuya knew he had achieved bankai, because only then could you release your Zanpaktou with saying its name.
Same rule for all Zanpaktou.

But the victim has to look at it, it Aizens case, right when he releases it.
There are many examples for this but the best one is, when Aizen met the King of Hueco Mundo. He said "please look" and then he releases it.
Other examples include when Aizen first showed his ability to Unohana and Isane.
And obviously the fact Tousen couldn't be affected by it.

edit: just saw that this was already pointed out last page

But here is the scene again, with him explaining it all.

Yes, I know, and I disagree with it. Not news.

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Originally Posted by Lendial

gin could have sliced yamato in half several times before, especially when he was lying in the pit waiting for aizen foolishly get in grabbing range.

Gin has crossword puzzles to finish.

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Originally Posted by Fran~

I really REALLY miss Kisuke and Yoruichi...

I will LMAO if Gin is somekind of double agent sending by SS's King

If he is, he needs fired

Bassoonicmayhem · 2010-03-12, 23:32

Everyone should know by now that Gin is in the series just to look pretty. I mean, look at that profile.

He should be on America's Next Top Model! Not in Bleach. He's wasting his potential! D:

2010-03-12, 14:40	Link #222
Fran~ floating away... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beyond World's End	ok, bad example I was saying that if we ignore that Ichigo is Bleach's protagonist, we would see that Aizen would be the center where the main plot turns around. Shinigamis wants to eliminate him Vizards wants revenge from him etc... OTOH Ichigo is centered in his hollow nature, he is son of a Shinigami, very little is known about why he is so special... __________________ Improving my english ^^

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Simon_Lord Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Age: 36	one thing i have in mind, Gin can still show up to parry the blow... __________________

2010-03-12, 22:24	Link #235
Crusader Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Texas	Hmm i had to back track and do some catching up, and i have to say that im not pleased with whats happening. Im just having flashbacks of soul society here with Aizen fighting everyone. It was cool then, but now it's juts not as interesting even with the newer abilities displayed. yamamoto was less than what i thought he was made out to be, and he went down fairly quickly. oh well i guess one can only expect so much. __________________ The times may change, but human nature never will.

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Lendial Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	gin could have sliced yamato in half several times before, especially when he was lying in the pit waiting for aizen foolishly get in grabbing range. __________________

2010-03-12, 23:12	Link #238
Fran~ floating away... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beyond World's End	I really REALLY miss Kisuke and Yoruichi... I will LMAO if Gin is somekind of double agent sending by SS's King __________________ Improving my english ^^

2010-03-12, 23:32	Link #240
Bassoonicmayhem The Procrastinator Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: it's too dark to tell...	Everyone should know by now that Gin is in the series just to look pretty. I mean, look at that profile. He should be on America's Next Top Model! Not in Bleach. He's wasting his potential! D: __________________ Speical thanks to Haladflire65 for the awesome Signature