2012-09-21, 12:50 | Link #2341 |
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You know I went back and you're exactly right. The confusing thing is the paint jobs and the two flashbacks in close proximity, because during the flashback to how Eureka and the Gekko got pulled over it's a 2-seat model but then in the Okinawa flashback it's the 1-seat model, but painted the same both times.
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2012-09-21, 13:52 | Link #2342 | |
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My larger issue with the reveal that Elena is a child of the '80s is that it doesn't work with what's come before it. There were lots of little hints throughout the series that Elena was from Eureka's future: intimating she could see trapar, Truth treating her differently, etc. Although those might be explained away, the big problem is her hair. Every character in this series AND the original has had normal-colored hair except for: Sakuya, Anemone, Eureka, Ao, and Elena. (I'm assuming Miller's hair was a wig/dyed) Two of these are 100% Coralian, one is 50% Coralian, one is genetically modified to be like a Coralian, and then there's is Elena, who comes from 1981. Okaaaay. Last edited by Trajan; 2012-09-21 at 14:27. Reason: hair |
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2012-09-21, 14:22 | Link #2343 |
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The coral carriers thing was pretty interesting.
Eureka makes another appearance. Seems like when she shows up things get even more complicated. Secrets attacking other secrets, interesting. Elena vs Ao. Things are getting slowly out of hand.
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2012-09-21, 15:03 | Link #2344 | ||
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Ivica wasn't near a Scub Burst. Eureka took off with the Quartz and prevented it. He's also an adult whose brain has long since finished developing. Children are susceptible because theirs have not. As for actual Scub Bursts causing trapar, look at episode 20. The first thing Ao notices after the Quartz explosion is trapar leaking from the door. Being in two such events would expose Elena to a lot of trapar in concentrations likely far higher than normal. Quote:
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So why are they using child pilots? The original answer the series gave was that the permanent presence of Scub Coral led to areas with continuing high levels of trapar as young children developed. Since this only occurred 10 years ago, there are no IFO pilots over the age of 16 or so. Your suggestion that all it takes is exposure to a Scub Burst that annihilates Scub Coral undermines this whole explanation. Quote:
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2012-09-21, 15:51 | Link #2346 |
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I dunno on the hair color thing yet, while it doesn't mean she has to be from Eureka's time it's still unusual enough that I'd be surprised if there's not more meaning behind it (especially since we're to assume so far that it's not dyed) as to who her actual parents are (and maybe there still will be, I haven't seen this ep yet but just because we potentially know "when" she might have came from doesn't mean we know "who" she came from yet, unless it was told in ep 21 as well which it doesn't seem like).
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Plus, given the reports of missing children, it's fairly safe to assume that most in close enough proximity to need rescuing like Elena don't survive the event. At the time, Scub Coral appearing was shorthand for "run like hell". Anyone close enough to be caught in the explosion likely wouldn't survive, and the trapar would have dissipated by the time people came back. Quote:
See also the above point. It's only with the ability to stop Scub Bursts and thus creating areas with persistent concentrations of trapar that these abnormalities begin to occur. So you have a case where Elena not only gets one or two major doses of trapar exposure, but ends up in a time where trapar levels are much higher than her own timeline. Quote:
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Anemone is human and had that hair color before her transformation if we take the flashback at the Great Wall as true.
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2012-09-21, 17:04 | Link #2349 | |
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Oh really? I mean I know she started full human before becoming a test subject artificial Coralian. If that's the case I totally forgot that, I remember she still had the pink hair as a child but it's been so long since I've seen the series that I was thinking that that was because she'd already been experimented on. Her hair color still sounds like something that was intended as a link to her parents given the extreme rarity of non-naturally colored let alone pink hair in this universe. Spoiler:
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2012-09-21, 19:55 | Link #2351 | |
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2012-09-21, 21:36 | Link #2352 |
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Why should we attach any importance to unnatural hair colors when E7 has already shown to us quite clearly that the only outward physical distinction that always exists between human and Coralian is the colored strip in the eye?
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2012-09-21, 22:37 | Link #2354 | |
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33% of full blood Coralians had hair colors. 25% of Coralians had natural hair colors. 25% of Coralians and artificial Coralians had natural hair colors. Suddenly, we see quite a different picture than "the only Coralian I can think of," don't you think?
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2012-09-21, 22:50 | Link #2355 | ||
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I just realised something. Remember in episodes 2 and 3 how we learned that Eureka has dyed her hair black, and only afterwards somehow got trapped between timelines? What happened to her black hair?
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Of course, at episode 50 we learn that he was actually a Coralian, watching everybody all along, and we can clearly see his Coralian eyes. Never throughout the series have we seen him with his eyes open, save for episodes 49 and 50. In episode 49, as Renton shares with the crew what he's learned from Diane (before Holland goes Kamikaze on the Orange), we can clearly see Gonzy sitting on his cooly-wooly rug, smoking, with white, normal, human eyes. If somebody doesn't know what I'm talking about, or simply doesn't recall that, I can provide pictures for comparison. Am I just missing anything, or is it my general stupidity plunging off again? I apologize in advance if this is too off-topic and doesn't fit in this thread. Quote:
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2012-09-21, 22:53 | Link #2356 | |
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Edit: Beaten bad and more thoroughly Like Raincollie, I basically thought he had the white hair of old age, however long that takes for a Coralian, like humans do given all of the similarities, despite the differences, developed in the story. Last edited by DangerMouse; 2012-09-21 at 23:26. |
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2012-09-21, 22:55 | Link #2357 |
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So Elena is just a kid from the past propelled into the future. I guess she was delusional when she saw Eureka's world.
Ah, it's not Renton. He's just a fighter pilot. When will Renton appear then? Maybe he will appear to save the day in the last minute. Truth appeared again. Shoot him already, Ao.
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2012-09-21, 23:15 | Link #2358 | ||
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Eureka doesn't age, certainly not in any way similar to a human. Gonzy may simply have been designed to look old.
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2012-09-21, 23:23 | Link #2359 | |
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On a different note, if Ao's a human-coralian hybrid, shouldn't his aging rate be, at least by a bit, different than any other human's? Or is that just a feature he grabbed from his dad completely? Don't get me wrong, I just put Eureka as a general example for a Coralian. I agree on the part that he may have just been 'created' with the appearance of an old man, but that's not my point. What I was trying to say is when Coralians (eventually, depending on their aging rate) become old, their hair just might turn white as humans'. Taking Dr. Mischa's note about the biology of Coralians being almost perfectly identical to humans', it's considerable. Not forcing my opinions, though. |
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2012-09-21, 23:29 | Link #2360 |
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That's certainly a possibility too. I just don't remember thinking much of it due to him being old and the pushing of the similarities between humans and human-form Coralians.
With all this, I'm not sure Gonzy having white hair really is an example that disproves that unnatural hair colors are so far Coralian-related and that they would be possible for a young human (since she's got pink hair as a kid it's now pretty likely she's not dying it which I wouldn't have put passed her earlier). If a human had had white hair as a kid wouldn't that have indicated something strange happened to him or that he had some kind of genetic issue? Good question. Shouldn't his aging atleast be slower or something? I totally forgot about this but having that thought for a bit when I saw someone comment that Naru looks older than him though they're both 13. Last edited by DangerMouse; 2012-09-22 at 00:03. |
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