2010-01-06, 14:04 | Link #12781 | |
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Moka is just being selfish. At the end of the day, I would think she'd rather share Tsukune than not have Tsukune at all.
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2010-01-06, 14:40 | Link #12782 | |
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Of course, it could be that he was troubled by his feelings, but I kind of got the impression that he was more troubled by the prospect of getting separated with the rest of the girls, not that he "wants a harem , but knows it's realistically impossible to have it. " I mean why he would hate himself if he wanted a harem with the girls ... and why would Tsukune deny that he want's a harem with the girls to Wong if he had this desire. Don't get me wrong HayashiTakara it's not that I have anything against the harem end, it's just that, for me it would mean ignoring a lot of character build up in Tsukune. I just kind of see, that it would be out of character for him. Of course I could be mistaken, but that's how I read it and I can't do anything about it ... ... sigh ... maybe we should just find another thing to discuss, because even when you HayashiTakara say that the reason why Tsukune is so indecisive right is because, he want's to get together with all of his harem. I don't see the evidence you provide as you do ... if that .... makes sense, so maybe we should end this topic before it kind of get's ... pointless .... |
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2010-01-06, 14:50 | Link #12783 |
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At this point I doubt that R+V is gonna end with a harem ending. Even Ikeda has hinted that there would be no harem ending. He goes as far as calling a harem a naive pipe dream.
More than likely it's gonna end how Shuffle! ended. It'll be Tsukune x Moka at the end with the girls staying as their friends but waiting for the chance that Tsukune and Moka might break up. |
2010-01-06, 18:01 | Link #12785 | |
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And I don't know if you're reading my words correctly but I did say "ONE OF THE REASONS" I didn't say "THE REASON" big difference in meaning. And there wasn't only one chapter that a choice had to be made. Ch.40 in S1 was brought up too. Moka told Tsukune that he eventually had to make a choice. The beginning of Ch.23 is a very telling chapter as well. We have Tsukune's dream. It starts with him making a promise to be with Moka forever, then a sudden realization he's done the exact same thing to Kurumu and Mizore as well. What's a man to do? Break all his other promises and uphold one? That's his predicament. Things aren't always simple, like for instance Mizore has a biological clock, unless she's willing to go steral in a couple of years she needs a mate soon. And we all know what happened the last time another man tried to take her away And Kurumu, really she's the most intensely in love with Tsukune than any of the others. Ikeda has portrait'd her to be so, she is driven by love stronger than any of the others. She'll probably end up the most emotionally scarred and probably end up behaving like a normal succubus rather than a love struck one in the future... Do Not Want a "town bicycle" Kurumu.
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2010-01-06, 20:46 | Link #12786 |
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Nah, Kurumu wouldn't do that...well, I'd like her NOT to do that. She's a really sweet girl, no doubt about it - we all like her. If she did go that route it would be a very sad story....*glances over in RadiantBeam's direction*
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2010-01-06, 21:02 | Link #12787 |
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I was thinking about that as well. I mean, if Tsukune wanted to "do" any of them, all he has to do is ask, and Kurumu, Ruby, Mizore and Yukari would all willingly give themselves to him in "that" way. Where as Moka isn't that willing to just throw herself at him like the others do, and I think that Tsukune admires that in her, as he sees that as exactly what he's been doing since the very beginning. So if one thinks of things like a kind of war, Tsukune has been laying siege to Moka for quite some time, and she still hasn't put up the "I Surrender Flag" yet, where all the others did that not long after they met him, except for Ruby, but her way of doing that was a bit odd, as we all know.
So we could say that he's trying for the hardest one to topple in this little romance war, and so far Moka has remained strong up until recently. But with these new developments, we might actually see her finally crack and fly the white flag for him. Which may prove that even nice guys get the girl they want if they have lots of patience and integrity to wade through the "harem", without engaging them, in order to get the one they really want. They say that "the hardest fought battles have the greatest rewards come from them," and this may play true for Tsukune in the end with Moka. But we will see when it finally comes.
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2010-01-06, 21:42 | Link #12790 | |
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2010-01-06, 22:13 | Link #12791 |
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Any of them would be a trophy wife, but it's just too easy to get the others is why he's holding off.
He cares for their happiness, yes, but doesn't believe that "he" is the only path they can take for it. Where as they believe that he IS their only way to happiness, and will try and acquire him at all costs, and for him, he knows that he could be happy with any of them, but he's just choosing the hard road of Moka to get to his destination.
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2010-01-06, 22:34 | Link #12792 | |
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What we need is an actual rival. Gin was a potential but that flew out the window when Sun came about.
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2010-01-06, 23:27 | Link #12793 |
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A rival really would heat things up. Has Tsukune had any real challenge to his harem at all? All I could remember was that fake vampire targeting Moka, but that was a while ago and was short lived.
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2010-01-07, 13:47 | Link #12795 |
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I hope they bring back Miyabi then. He's the closest to being Tsukune's rival that we got. If he ever goes after Moka - trying to possess her - it might be close if he plays the mob card enough.
If he fights and beats Tsukune, keeps Inner at bay and tell her that if to save Tsukune, she'll have to come with him. She leaves, in order to protect his life...aaaand then the Wong family offer their services to combine with Tsukune (and harem) to take down Fairy Tail.
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2010-01-07, 14:06 | Link #12796 | |
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Unless the seal is still restraining her power, I see no reason why she wouldn't join the battle, especially since Miyabi could also be a vampire. But, I agree that a rival for Tsukune is something that would bring much more depth to the story. Well, another thing that came to me, what would happen if Tsukune's seal has broken during this ( described above ) fight, could it change the outcome ? |
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2010-01-07, 16:57 | Link #12797 |
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I only gave that one possible instance because Miyabi seems to be a mobster of some kind. He could get the drop on Tsukune and force him into a precarious position, something where Moka will not attack for fear of endangering Tsukune's life.
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2010-01-07, 17:25 | Link #12798 | |
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2010-01-07, 17:54 | Link #12799 | |
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2010-01-07, 19:11 | Link #12800 |
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If I put Inner Moka in a 'damsel in distress' character, I wasn't thinking of it in the classical sense...but I didn't have enough time to expound on it - but hey, the best ideas aren't always the quick ones. ^^
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