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Old 2010-07-11, 22:44   Link #3081
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No dragon slayers doesn't neccesarily mean no dragons. Remember, the dragon slayers were trained in order to fight Zeref, or that is my hypothesis anyways. Since zeref doesn't exist or is completely different in edo then there would be no reason for dragons to train dragon slayers and since dragons like to be hidden and isolated the king would never know about them.
Well aren't dragons magical creatures? Edo doesn't have any magic at all. And if Edoras is as old as Earth i think that there'd have been a spotting of a dragon. But still what you said can be true.
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Old 2010-07-11, 23:33   Link #3082
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Well aren't dragons magical creatures? Edo doesn't have any magic at all. And if Edoras is as old as Earth i think that there'd have been a spotting of a dragon. But still what you said can be true.
Edoras has/had magic, however it is running out. Question is why is Edoras running out of magic.
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Old 2010-07-12, 01:52   Link #3083
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Edoras has/had magic, however it is running out. Question is why is Edoras running out of magic.
I was wondering about that when they explained that they were running out of magic. But they need magic weapons and stuff to produce magic don't they? (I read way way to many manga's to keep every detail in my head, so i forget some things) And another thing, how does he know how much magic(al power) he will get from Dragon Slayers? They never did say if he did or didn't come in contact with one before.
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Old 2010-07-12, 07:59   Link #3084
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No dragon slayers doesn't neccesarily mean no dragons. Remember, the dragon slayers were trained in order to fight Zeref, or that is my hypothesis anyways. Since zeref doesn't exist or is completely different in edo then there would be no reason for dragons to train dragon slayers and since dragons like to be hidden and isolated the king would never know about them.
I agree with that dragon slayer theory.

I know Urtear said that Zeref was sleeping, but is there any chance that the black dragon that severed Gildartz's limbs and was "pure evil" was Zeref?
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Old 2010-07-12, 14:10   Link #3085
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Or maybe Zereft is a dragon slayer under the black dragon.

Which would surprise noone.
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Old 2010-07-12, 14:10   Link #3086
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I agree with that dragon slayer theory.

I know Urtear said that Zeref was sleeping, but is there any chance that the black dragon that severed Gildartz's limbs and was "pure evil" was Zeref?
I don't know. I think that for now, he is still unable to do anything. Though I wouldn't put it beyond Zeref to be able to control people's minds or something. That being said, a dragon is a dragon after all, the strongest magical creature that exists so far in FT. It wouldn't be easy for Zeref to be able to take control of a dragon. I think the one Gildartz encountered was just a wild dragon, but we'll definitely find out more about it later, conceivably right after this arc as Natsu was just about to go looking for it before all this anima stuff happened .


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Or maybe Zereft is a dragon slayer under the black dragon.

Which would surprise noone.
That's actually a very interesting idea that I've never considered.
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Old 2010-07-12, 15:39   Link #3087
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Or maybe Zereft is a dragon slayer under the black dragon.

Which would surprise noone.
Very interesting idea

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I don't know. I think that for now, he is still unable to do anything. Though I wouldn't put it beyond Zeref to be able to control people's minds or something. That being said, a dragon is a dragon after all, the strongest magical creature that exists so far in FT. It wouldn't be easy for Zeref to be able to take control of a dragon. I think the one Gildartz encountered was just a wild dragon, but we'll definitely find out more about it later, conceivably right after this arc as Natsu was just about to go looking for it before all this anima stuff happened .
The mind control is interesting, but for some reason I'd prefer some sort of 'yami' magic of some sort(kinda like Nirvana, or if he was the origin of Nirvana itself that'd be interesting too.

Zeref reminds me of that legendary giant dragon in Hiro's side project Monster Hunter Orage...that was a pretty good series, cliche as it was.
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Old 2010-07-12, 18:39   Link #3088
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I was wondering about that when they explained that they were running out of magic. But they need magic weapons and stuff to produce magic don't they? (I read way way to many manga's to keep every detail in my head, so i forget some things) And another thing, how does he know how much magic(al power) he will get from Dragon Slayers? They never did say if he did or didn't come in contact with one before.
Well, magic is limited in their world so it's natural that they would eventually run out. Think of it like fossil fuels today (although they won't run out for quite some time yet). Well, his son did go to earthland, so it's very possible for the king to have learned the extent of magical power that dragon slayers possess.

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Very interesting idea



The mind control is interesting, but for some reason I'd prefer some sort of 'yami' magic of some sort(kinda like Nirvana, or if he was the origin of Nirvana itself that'd be interesting too.

Zeref reminds me of that legendary giant dragon in Hiro's side project Monster Hunter Orage...that was a pretty good series, cliche as it was.
Haha, it was kind of a long stretch anyways . Well, I never watched that series so I wouldn't know what you are talking about.
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Old 2010-07-12, 19:31   Link #3089
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Haha, it was kind of a long stretch anyways .
Both of ours were stretches

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Well, I never watched that series so I wouldn't know what you are talking about.
http://www.onemanga.com/Monster_Hunter_Orage/1/01/
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Old 2010-07-12, 19:41   Link #3090
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Old 2010-07-12, 20:04   Link #3091
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i have that manga book!
its so cool and the art work is adorable,and alot like Rave master.

not super popular here though...D:
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Old 2010-07-12, 21:29   Link #3092
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i have that manga book!
its so cool and the art work is adorable,and alot like Rave master.

not super popular here though...D:
Yeah, it was classic shonen cliche stuff, but it was still good! Mashima still loves Rave, naming the girl Irie. Can't keep RM too far
I think the artwork is the same quality as FT.
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Old 2010-07-12, 21:51   Link #3093
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Yeah, it was classic shonen cliche stuff, but it was still good! Mashima still loves Rave, naming the girl Irie. Can't keep RM too far
I think the artwork is the same quality as FT.
better, imo.
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Old 2010-07-12, 23:06   Link #3094
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better, imo.
True; the quality for monthly releases are usually better than that of weekly ones, E.g Claymore etc, but I try to balance it out fairly
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Old 2010-07-13, 00:58   Link #3095
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After looking at chapter 192...
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Old 2010-07-13, 14:34   Link #3096
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Old 2010-07-13, 22:52   Link #3097
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After looking at chapter 192...
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Honestly..........Who didn't see that coming (Fairy Tail showing up)
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Old 2010-07-14, 01:02   Link #3098
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Old 2010-07-15, 09:26   Link #3099
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Was a pretty epic appearance as well. Shame it was so predicable after half way into the chapter.

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Old 2010-07-15, 11:14   Link #3100
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About time Edo-FT shows up. Would have expected them sooner, but then again it probably takes a while to mobilize the guild.
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