(L) Saki manga

[Peanutbutter]

It's true. I've seen a scan that confirms it.

I bet Hisa has something to do with this.

[Qilin]

Huh. Apart from Hiroe, I'm not really a fan of Himematsu, so this is an unfortunate development.

[night_sentinel]

Originally Posted by Von Himmel

I think someone explain it here:

Spoiler:

Though I don't really get it either because there are so many moonwords in it, but it's someone's answer for this post:


Basically, she got +/- 0

..i think

Spoiler for .Saki's score:

Oh I think I get it now, if you count the ante (5,000 points that go in the pot at the start of the match) ... Saki got +/- zero.

So according to that :
First hanchan
Saki started with 99600 → 105100; thus she has + 5,500
if we take the 5k ante from this well get +500

Second hanchan
Saki started with 105100 → 109700; thus she has +4,600
if we take the 5k ante from this you'll get -400

If you take both hanchan:
500 - 400 = 100
And since the score is rounded to the nearest thousands saki got zero.

So from a certain point of view Saki did get +/-0.
Wth! So beside making Himematsu win, Saki also managed to make her score perfectly even.

[NeutralZero]

Too bad the miko team lost... we really like to see more of Jindai... oh well... guess we just have to wait in the very long future until the end of the team tournament and the national version of the singles tournament for her to reappear again... assuming the National version would be in the manga... most certain they'll have that after all Saki can't fight Teru in the team match...
And by that time do hope Jindai would fight against Saki

[Academus]

Originally Posted by Von Himmel

I think someone explain it here:

Spoiler:

Though I don't really get it either because there are so many moonwords in it, but it's someone's answer for this post:


Basically, she got +/- 0

..i think

Spoiler:

Recall episode 1. Everyone starts with 25k points but the nominal starting balance is 30k, so Saki needs to get 4600 - 5500 points in order to achieve +/- 0.
The rest is self explanatory. Saki nets 5500 points in the first half and 4600 in the second half, so in this sense she pulls out two +/- 0 in a row.
The reply states that another intrepretation is to treat it as a continuous game, and Saki gets +10100 points, which would put her in the positive side.
Since the manga explicitly states two consecutive +/- 0, it seems the author goes with the first calculation.

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by night_sentinel

Spoiler for .Saki's score:

Oh I think I get it now, if you count the ante (5,000 points that go in the pot at the start of the match) ... Saki got +/- zero.

So according to that :
First hanchan
Saki started with 99600 → 105100; thus she has + 5,500
if we take the 5k ante from this well get +500

Second hanchan
Saki started with 105100 → 109700; thus she has +4,600
if we take the 5k ante from this you'll get -400

If you take both hanchan:
500 - 400 = 100
And since the score is rounded to the nearest thousands saki got zero.

So from a certain point of view Saki did get +/-0.
Wth! So beside making Himematsu win, Saki also managed to make her score perfectly even.

Thats some calculations you have there, I am still confused on how to calculate...

Anyway, whos next? ???? and ????

[Von Himmel]

Originally Posted by Academus

Spoiler:

Recall episode 1. Everyone starts with 25k points but the nominal starting balance is 30k, so Saki needs to get 4600 - 5500 points in order to achieve +/- 0.
The rest is self explanatory. Saki nets 5500 points in the first half and 4600 in the second half, so in this sense she pulls out two +/- 0 in a row.
The reply states that another intrepretation is to treat it as a continuous game, and Saki gets +10100 points, which would put her in the positive side.
Since the manga explicitly states two consecutive +/- 0, it seems the author goes with the first calculation.

Spoiler:

Two consecutive wh-- Now that's definitely scary Seriously, she's becoming more frightening than her own sister who owned the matches with Ea

[night_sentinel]

Originally Posted by Academus

Spoiler:

Recall episode 1. Everyone starts with 25k points but the nominal starting balance is 30k, so Saki needs to get 4600 - 5500 points in order to achieve +/- 0.
The rest is self explanatory. Saki nets 5500 points in the first half and 4600 in the second half, so in this sense she pulls out two +/- 0 in a row.
The reply states that another intrepretation is to treat it as a continuous game, and Saki gets +10100 points, which would put her in the positive side.
Since the manga explicitly states two consecutive +/- 0, it seems the author goes with the first calculation.

Spoiler for scores:

That's even worse... if we treat the two hanchans separately that meant as you've said Saki got two consecutive +/- zero.

Beside that I've noticed something else its not just two consecutive zero's either ...
Notice that both Saki's score is exactly the upper boundary and the lower boundary limit of achieving +/- zero. I wonder if that is deliberate?

Using a modification of my previous post:
Since you get +/- zero if you score range between 4600 - 5500

First hanchan
Saki started with 99600 → 105100; thus she has + 5,500
And Saki got the upper boundary limit of scoring +/- zero (5,500) so first hanchan Saki broke even.

Second hanchan
Saki started with 105100 → 109700; thus she has +4,600
And now Saki got the lower boundary limit of scoring +/- zero (4,600) so second hanchan, Saki also broke even.

In a twisted way its also breaking even using the scale 4600 - 5500 since if you took both the lowest and highest value and average it you'll get the mean (exact middle point).

.................................................. ...........
What mirror world I have fallen into?
I'm getting more scared of Saki than of Teru...

[Academus]

Originally Posted by night_sentinel

Spoiler for scores:

That's even worse... if we treat the two hanchans separately that meant as you've said Saki got two consecutive +/- zero.

Beside that I've noticed something else its not just two consecutive zero's either ...
Notice that both Saki's score is exactly the upper boundary and the lower boundary limit of achieving +/- zero. I wonder if that is deliberate?

Using a modification of my previous post:
Since you get +/- zero if you score range between 4600 - 5500

First hanchan
Saki started with 99600 → 105100; thus she has + 5,500
And Saki got the upper boundary limit of scoring +/- zero (5,500) so first hanchan Saki broke even.

Second hanchan
Saki started with 105100 → 109700; thus she has +4,600
And now Saki got the lower boundary limit of scoring +/- zero (4,600) so second hanchan, Saki also broke even.

In a twisted way its also breaking even using the scale 4600 - 5500 since if you took both the lowest and highest value and average it you'll get the mean (exact middle point).

.................................................. ...........
What mirror world I have fallen into?
I'm getting more scared of Saki than of Teru...

Spoiler:

That's not even the begining of the end.
Do you remember back in episode 3 of the anime, when Nodoka said and demonstrated that it is nigh impossible to deliberately do +/- 0,
thus basically proved that Saki is able to control everyone's hand, if not mind as well?
The new chapter pretty much reaffirms Saki's power is still working and unbreakable even with two supernatural players.
Forget Koromo. Forget Teru. Their dominance can be challenged and broken if the rest work together.
With Saki, you are only playing into her hands. The reason you are able to score is because Saki wills it to bring down her points so that she can achieves +/- 0.

EDIT: And I forgot to mention that the trick is quite difficult to notice as well. Judging by the leaked image, Suehara doesn't realise the +/- 0 thing until someone points out to her.

[NeutralZero]

so this time around she really manage to score a legit +/- 0 and still be on top...?
Even with that... we still think Teru is more scarier than Saki...
She may be becoming more like her ability wise so a tip of the ice berg for Teru's true ability...
And doubt that all there is to Teru... for her to be a consecutive reigning champion at that...

[Peanutbutter]

I conclude Ritz just wanna make her life easier in the semis.

I know you're lazy with only one short chapter in a month but this takes the cake.

[kona~chan]

teru is kind of player where you know it's coming but you can't do nothing about it,
where saki is kind of player you don't know when she will take action and when you know it, the game is already over.
personally i think teru is still stronger btw thought they indeed in the same realm.
either way they are scary and should be banned from playing mahjong outside

[NeutralZero]

Teru throws of the first match/half to seize their ability/nature/etc while Saki's case... a cheap shot one/twice/trice then followed by a major win... so in a way the two has certain predictable behavior...
But if what is seen in the anime/manga is all Teru have then its kinda disappointing...
just hope she has more stored in her sleeve and not wanting to reveal all unless its necessary...
Kinda makes us wonder on how Taco girl will handle her if they are too meet in the finals...

[Proto]

This episode just makes me hate Saki so very much. I'm just waiting for the day someone effectively trounces her.

[Marina2]

Ah, That's good plan Saki!

Spoiler for Saki's plan:

You let the weakest team goes to semi-final with you insted for other troblesome schools.

I start to think that Saki may plan to make Rinkai dead at semi-final too and let other random weak school to the final round with Kiyosumi. That will be....interesting ^^

[sandhy88]

Originally Posted by Marina2

Ah, That's good plan Saki!

Spoiler for Saki's plan:

You let the weakest team goes to semi-final with you insted for other troblesome schools.

I start to think that Saki may plan to make Rinkai dead at semi-final too and let other random weak school to the final round with Kiyosumi. That will be....interesting ^^

So... You mean that when in the Final only Shiratodai Kiyosumi's enemy?

[azziz]

since saki is a mahjong fantasy manga,then if she had a hiden "true name"-like mage-it would be Zero,as her latent power,once awakened,doesn't make her win with yakuman but instead control the game with +/- zero.
i'm curious to see teru reaction once she'll realize her little sister didn't change,will she be disapointed?
and what about teru suposed weakness seen trough by achiga:could it be due to some kind of trauma related to saki zero mode?
kuro wasn't able to take advantage of it;but as long as it leave room for character development(and we all know how ritz-sama excel at it),i'm happy with it.
my only disapointment is the miko-booby monster-team,aka esui,elimination:3 out of 5 are third year and as miko having to serve god in some kind of mountain,i don't see how they could ever become pro;it was perhaps their last chance to enjoy mahjong in a tounament for their whole life...
sad.

[Serperior]

Ah.. I did not expect this plot twist at all. I was expecting Eisui to go with Kiyosumi, then Kiyosumi going to the finals with Rinkai. But not, it's harder to predict. The one going to the finals may not even be Rinkai but the school that Rinkai will go with.

I'm actually quite fine with Himematsu. I think I've fallen in love with Kyouko and her biker shorts. Too bad no more Aislynn and Sae. We didn't even see Aislynn play at all! D:

Well, hopefully we'll see the girl with the Dango hair play now. Ritz seems to like her as she usually appears.

Spoiler:

[Sumeragi]

Toyone

[Myssa Rei]

Well darn, I didn't see this twist at all. So basically Saki twisted probability around her finger so that the two schools that Kiyosumi might have trouble with on top of Rinkai won't advance? Really?

Also, add my voices grieving for Himematsu. Toyoneeeee! Oh well, since we already saw Shiromi and Sae in Biyori, maybe Aislinn and Toyone will follow them there as well.