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The reason behind the 'Console War'
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2008-07-01, 07:43 | Link #3 |
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Doesn't really matter (didn't read all of it btw.)
The same can be said of Nintendo. Their fall of grace after the SNES which was picked up by Sony. Then currently Nintendo picked up from where Ps2 left off. Although many people say that Wii is not next gen. Graphically yes. But, in terms of innovation it is next gen. Although the Ps3 has some motion controls. But its not used extensively. |
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Go go New Games Journalism!
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2008-07-01, 11:30 | Link #5 |
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Of all the next gen consoles I've enjoyed the PS3 the most and the Wii very much as well. Not to say I hate the 360 as I do enjoy playing the game exclusives they have its just not one I'd like to have with all its technical problems. I don't why people become such arrogant fanboys/fangirls over stupid stuff like a console. Buy the console with the games you like and shut up! THere is no need to rip on others for buying another system.
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2008-07-01, 12:02 | Link #6 |
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Nah console wars will always be there. I personally hate the Wii a passion, since the only good games on it are played with the traditional controller. The rest of the games are a joke to be honest. Unless you game like 3 hours each week. Not to mention it's killing gaming we are used to. Since the mainstream is fucking nice it's cheap and makes more money. >_> The XBOX 360 arcade is a way better buy.
Personally am a Playstation gamer, since the Metal gear solid series is in my opinion the best series ever. Was a Nintendo gamer from the Nes to the Cube(the cube sucked arse imo). |
2008-07-01, 20:04 | Link #7 | |
/co/ is superior.
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2008-07-02, 02:32 | Link #8 |
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Sometimes I look at the competition between console makers and game developers, and I can't help but compare it cynically to the current hip-hop / pop music scene (as well as those vain cellphone nutcases chasing after the latest model from Nokia/Apple/Motorola/Sony): it's mostly hype, and I don't like to dole out my money just to grab the "new, new thing".
Might as well hunt down whoever is selling that old Atari 2600 and a bunch of carts for a song.
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On a completely unrelated note looking back on the PS2 it was full of really horrible shovelware, the really good stuff didn't even come out till like the last 4 odd years since its the only last gen console still alive. Most of the early games even of the big series were only decent really. In other cases they were outright crimes against humanity (See: Metal Gear Solid 2 and Devil May Cry 2). Funny how things turned out huh? At the moment the home console scene is a mixed blessing, its both full of the biggest load of crap and uninspired hype I've ever seen. At the same time we're still seeing occasional rays of sunshine from developers who actually try making a good game on the Wii with depth. Or developers who don't just whore out ragdoll physics and cookie cutter gameplay with shinier graphics on the HD consoles. As it stands the handheld console is the ultimate victor of this era. DS versatility and selection in games is near unrivaled in both the casual and traditional areas. PSP has been sorta chugging along only finally picking up abit of steam and finding a small niche. It helps it had one or two runaway success games which has considerably boosted its userbase lately. Still doesn't help though its full of ports/shovelware and is terrible in concept as a handheld... (well in the true sense of what a handheld is meant to be.)
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Of course, part of that is wishful thinking. Traditional game creators still dominate the development scene, and many resist Nintendo's new marketing direction. They don't make or necessarily respect casual games, so there's no commitment to the Wii. In fact, it's poison to their futures (they'd either have to quit making games or grudgingly accept projects they have no interest in. The sooner the fad dies, the better) if the core gaming market declines and is partially replaced by a new generation of casual gamers. So yeah, these biases can affect development decisions. If casual gaming is to dominate, it'll primarily happen through newcomers to the industry (many of whom are pumping out garbage so far, but that might change) rather than veteran game developers. Quote:
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2008-07-03, 09:16 | Link #14 |
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The problem with the Wii is that it took everyone by surprise. Until then developers just weren't taking it seriously. So they started serious development really late, of which we'll see the fruits later this year, probably.
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That said Metal gear solid 2 was awesome the only hate it got was, because you where playing raiden, but hell his background and story was good. DMC2 sucked, but DMC3 made it alright. Yeah it turned out the best console out of that generation showing in sales and games. It excelled in every genre except the shooter and action adventure. Which both the XBOX holds with Halo and Ninja Gaiden. All I have the say the biggest innovation is coming from sony with Little big planet and can't w8 to see what the Ico/SoC crew will do. |
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Anyways I do like the Ps2 more than the Cube and Xbox, but that has a lot to do with games like Ico, Shadow of the Colussus, and Tekken 5 being on them. However the GC did have plenty of good games that most people didn't even know where on the Cube. They had remakes of pretty much all the original Resident Evil games, They had a game pack with Zelda Orcarina of time and Majoras mask. And of course Metal Gear Solid the twin snakes. Aside from remakes there were games like Resident Evil 4 which was only on the GC at first, Battalion Wars, Star Wars Rogue Squadron II, Viewtiful Joe, Paper Mario, Animal Crossing, Wave Race: Blue Storm, F Zero GX, Pikmin, Eternal Darkness, Zelda Windwaker, Super Smash Bros Melee, etc.
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The music gets points and overall plot was pretty epic actually (characterization was weak though) but the gameplay has always been lacklustre, clunky, slow with meh controls. It would've been fine for a FPS RPG or a FPS exploration game but unsuitable for what it was. But the Xbox owners had nothing else to justify owning that console which created rabid fans on a level no other fanbase could come close to which helped its hype. Quote:
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2008-07-04, 15:14 | Link #19 |
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I like the games for my PS3
I like the games for my 360 I just wish microsoft (or someone) made a smaller controller...i can't play for more than 45min-1hr without getting a cramp at the base of my thumbs because the controller is just too damn big... |
2008-07-05, 00:53 | Link #20 |
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I would tottaly agree with you there if I didn't love Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker and Tales of Symphonia to pieces. That being said though, I think the problem with fanboyism is that it's not about the hardware, it's about the games. And somewhere along the line, people get really defensive when their console of choice isn't getting all the suport they'd like (That's my only real problem with my PSP: I don't play too many games other then RPGs and the occasional action adventure game, so it's a bit lacker there, at least on the english market). Oh a side note, I'd throw my hand with the Pro MGS2 people, I actually really liked the story and thought it was quite interesting, but then agian, I actually lisened to all the dialouge without losing focus or being like "OMG WHEN CAN I SHOT STUFF" (guess I'm not really much of an action gamer and enjoy reading more, huh). Although in some respects, I could say it was a bit overwritten (The HUGE, HUGE infodump towards the end of the game was not really needed, and they could have gradually told all of it thoughout the Big Shell arc, but hey, it wouldn't be Kojima without a huge infodump).
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