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Kairin · 2012-02-04, 01:58

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omimon · 2012-02-04, 10:28

First step in forming a good relationship with your little sister: kiss her on the lips!!

raruku · 2012-02-04, 10:57

God damn u siscon

envy u

Miraluka · 2012-02-04, 11:00

Hanekawa: Wasted girl

.

Oh gawd the siscon side of the force is strong in you Araragi-kun.

What an enjoyable episode despite my fav character wasn't there.

pampz21 · 2012-02-04, 12:56

I almost fell on a cliff!

Clarste · 2012-02-04, 13:41

He's not a siscon. He wasn't even embarrassed to undress her.

I was kinda expecting that ending though when Shinobu was talking about how it wasn't really an option.

00Coyote · 2012-02-04, 13:48

SHAFT isn't letting up at all. Kudos all around.

The only complaint I can think of at the moment about this show is that it really needs to be watched all the way through, without the silly 1 week pause in between episodes.

FlareKnight · 2012-02-04, 14:28

That was some way to end an episode

. Can see how this might be a troublesome method. Even still if it's the only way to transfer the poison over then that's what has to be done. He can at least handle that poison with the kind of body he has, while on the other hand the result could be fatal for Karen.

In that respect that's what felt off for this episode. They play up how serious Karen's situation is and then spend most of the episode with gags. Not that it isn't like the series to joke around, but just felt weird. Have this crisis and yet no one really seems to care that much.

Regardless can't think that this will end it all. Since after recovery the Fire Sisters will go right back after this Kaiki guy. In that case Koyomi really has to settle this situation.

Kanon · 2012-02-04, 14:33

As I thought, Kaiki didn't intend to kill Karen. He just wants to teach her a lesson, just as she has taught him one. He's a despicable con man but he's no child killer; although I suppose that if somebody paid him a suitable sum of money, he'd be willing to consider killing. Hard to say for sure. The line between conning and killing is not thin, even a dick like Kaiki may be unwilling to cross it.

Anyway, I like Kaiki. It's refreshing to see an antagonist who cares about money (a motivation easy to understand for everybody) rather than ruling/destroying the world or doing evil stuff for the sake of it. He doesn't use evil means because he likes it, but because that's the fastest and most efficient way to get what he wants. If he could earn as much by taking care of puppies, he'd do probably do it. Unfortunately, the world doesn't work that way.

Tsukihi and Karen were platinum awesome in this episode. About damn time Karen got more than two minutes of screentime in one episode. I expect the effect of the Bee's sting will kick in next week and that she'll majorly freak out. I just hope it happens after the kiss and not right before. Speaking of which, Shinobu is trolling Araragi, isn't she? Well, even if she isn't, I doubt that method will produce the intended result.

PS: I want a free Hanekawa ticket, please.

Anh_Minh · 2012-02-04, 14:42

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Originally Posted by Kanon

As I thought, Kaiki didn't intend to kill Karen. He just wants to teach her a lesson, just as she has taught him one. He's a despicable con man but he's no child killer; although I suppose that if somebody paid him a suitable sum of money, he'd be willing to consider killing. Hard to say for sure. The line between conning and killing is not thin, even a dick like Kaiki may be unwilling to cross it.

Wait, what? How do you get that he isn't a child killer? You think he's bluffing about letting Karen die if she doesn't cough up the money?

leorodri100 · 2012-02-04, 14:44

i doubt she is trolling him...but again karen being my favorite nise character this episode was a paradise for me
plus araragi is a siscon...and a heck of one, i love that about him...i just wanted that they didn't put that cliffhanger and make me almost shot my head due to that

Kanon · 2012-02-04, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Wait, what? How do you get that he isn't a child killer? You think he's bluffing about letting Karen die if she doesn't cough up the money?

He never said anything about killing her. He asked her to bring him money if she wants him to stop conning kids. At least that's how I understood it.

Clarste · 2012-02-04, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanon

He never said anything about killing her. He asked her to bring him money if she wants him to stop conning kids. At least that's how I understood it.

I think you can also interpret it as "you should have brought me money". In which case he doesn't really care whether she lives or not. He wouldn't mind if she died, but he wouldn't mind if she lived either.

tsunade666 · 2012-02-04, 15:40

the last word Araragi said left my jaw hanging down for a couple of seconds... I was like huh!? *0* KISSU!!! No complaint for me on the episode that just runs down cute girls from the scene with Tsukihi then Hanekawa and lastly with Karen.

Kaiki isn't that bad either as an enemy with class of money.

Evil_Sephiroth · 2012-02-04, 15:44

bath Towel DOWN XD

Ending was simply too LOL

ars89 · 2012-02-04, 16:06

Hanekawa ticket was nice. Guess it was in return of the surprise she got. Karen's encounter with Kaiki was interesting. Liked how he reached for her little purse and took her money. He might not be a nice guy but he has his priorities in order with only thinking about money. My question would be what does he wan with the money. Shinobu was right, that method is not something to be recommended. I hope Tsukihi walks in when it happens for more craziness.

Clarste · 2012-02-04, 16:07

For some reason I got chills up my spine every time Kaiki said "Araragi" while talking to Karen.

Shadow5YA · 2012-02-04, 16:19

Shame on you, Tsubasa. You've proven that you could easily wrap Koyomi around your finger, yet because of your passiveness, you lost to Hitagi.

Candyshark · 2012-02-04, 16:20

Hah. There goes all my speculation about Kaiki aiming only for big things. Looks like lunchmoney and change will do for him just fine. Found it amazing how he easily confused and disarmed her with straightforward honesty. Very pragmatic and opportunistic bastard. Rob and decieve is one thing killing is another.

The whole situation with Karen is really taken in a stride. He was even more freaking out during Mayoi arc.

I see sence of shame between siblings isn't very developed in this family. And wiping of your younger sister's sweat is very important form of a "care".

Solafighter · 2012-02-04, 16:24

It seems, that this serious is realy great. Love the art. But one problem. I dont understand anything.

I think i better watch bakamonotori first..

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2012-02-04, 12:56	Link #5
pampz21 ShipCore Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Age: 31	I almost fell on a cliff! __________________ to Believe is to Live, to Ship is to Believe, the best part of believe is the Lie, to Lie to oneself is to Live and that is the Essence of Life

2012-02-04, 14:28	Link #8
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	That was some way to end an episode . Can see how this might be a troublesome method. Even still if it's the only way to transfer the poison over then that's what has to be done. He can at least handle that poison with the kind of body he has, while on the other hand the result could be fatal for Karen. In that respect that's what felt off for this episode. They play up how serious Karen's situation is and then spend most of the episode with gags. Not that it isn't like the series to joke around, but just felt weird. Have this crisis and yet no one really seems to care that much. Regardless can't think that this will end it all. Since after recovery the Fire Sisters will go right back after this Kaiki guy. In that case Koyomi really has to settle this situation. __________________ Anime-Evo

2012-02-04, 14:33	Link #9
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	As I thought, Kaiki didn't intend to kill Karen. He just wants to teach her a lesson, just as she has taught him one. He's a despicable con man but he's no child killer; although I suppose that if somebody paid him a suitable sum of money, he'd be willing to consider killing. Hard to say for sure. The line between conning and killing is not thin, even a dick like Kaiki may be unwilling to cross it. Anyway, I like Kaiki. It's refreshing to see an antagonist who cares about money (a motivation easy to understand for everybody) rather than ruling/destroying the world or doing evil stuff for the sake of it. He doesn't use evil means because he likes it, but because that's the fastest and most efficient way to get what he wants. If he could earn as much by taking care of puppies, he'd do probably do it. Unfortunately, the world doesn't work that way. Tsukihi and Karen were platinum awesome in this episode. About damn time Karen got more than two minutes of screentime in one episode. I expect the effect of the Bee's sting will kick in next week and that she'll majorly freak out. I just hope it happens after the kiss and not right before. Speaking of which, Shinobu is trolling Araragi, isn't she? Well, even if she isn't, I doubt that method will produce the intended result. PS: I want a free Hanekawa ticket, please. __________________

2012-02-04, 15:40	Link #14
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	the last word Araragi said left my jaw hanging down for a couple of seconds... I was like huh!? 0 KISSU!!! No complaint for me on the episode that just runs down cute girls from the scene with Tsukihi then Hanekawa and lastly with Karen. Kaiki isn't that bad either as an enemy with class of money. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2012-02-04, 10:28	Link #2
omimon Professional Hikkikomori Join Date: Feb 2009	First step in forming a good relationship with your little sister: kiss her on the lips!!

2012-02-04, 10:57	Link #3
raruku Member Join Date: Mar 2009	God damn u siscon envy u

2012-02-04, 11:00	Link #4
Miraluka Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 34	Hanekawa: Wasted girl . Oh gawd the siscon side of the force is strong in you Araragi-kun. What an enjoyable episode despite my fav character wasn't there.

2012-02-04, 13:41	Link #6
Clarste Human Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37	He's not a siscon. He wasn't even embarrassed to undress her. I was kinda expecting that ending though when Shinobu was talking about how it wasn't really an option.

2012-02-04, 13:48	Link #7
00Coyote Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	SHAFT isn't letting up at all. Kudos all around. The only complaint I can think of at the moment about this show is that it really needs to be watched all the way through, without the silly 1 week pause in between episodes.

2012-02-04, 14:44	Link #11
leorodri100 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	i doubt she is trolling him...but again karen being my favorite nise character this episode was a paradise for me plus araragi is a siscon...and a heck of one, i love that about him...i just wanted that they didn't put that cliffhanger and make me almost shot my head due to that

2012-02-04, 15:44	Link #15
Evil_Sephiroth Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lavagna (GE) Age: 37	bath Towel DOWN XD Ending was simply too LOL __________________ "Though I Fly Through the Valley of Death, I Shall Fear No Evil. For I am at 80,000 Feet and Climbing."

2012-02-04, 16:06	Link #16
ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	Hanekawa ticket was nice. Guess it was in return of the surprise she got. Karen's encounter with Kaiki was interesting. Liked how he reached for her little purse and took her money. He might not be a nice guy but he has his priorities in order with only thinking about money. My question would be what does he wan with the money. Shinobu was right, that method is not something to be recommended. I hope Tsukihi walks in when it happens for more craziness. __________________ My Anime List

2012-02-04, 16:07	Link #17
Clarste Human Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37	For some reason I got chills up my spine every time Kaiki said "Araragi" while talking to Karen.

2012-02-04, 16:19	Link #18
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Shame on you, Tsubasa. You've proven that you could easily wrap Koyomi around your finger, yet because of your passiveness, you lost to Hitagi.

2012-02-04, 16:20	Link #19
Candyshark Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	Hah. There goes all my speculation about Kaiki aiming only for big things. Looks like lunchmoney and change will do for him just fine. Found it amazing how he easily confused and disarmed her with straightforward honesty. Very pragmatic and opportunistic bastard. Rob and decieve is one thing killing is another. The whole situation with Karen is really taken in a stride. He was even more freaking out during Mayoi arc. I see sence of shame between siblings isn't very developed in this family. And wiping of your younger sister's sweat is very important form of a "care".

2012-02-04, 16:24	Link #20
Solafighter Hige Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: God only knows	It seems, that this serious is realy great. Love the art. But one problem. I dont understand anything. I think i better watch bakamonotori first.. __________________